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mrklean wrote:Invade Mexico and make it the 51 state. Kill all Drug dealers on site. This invasion I would support 1000%

mrklean wrote:Invade Mexico and make it the 51 state. Kill all Drug dealers on site. This invasion I would support 1000%

Skjellyfetti wrote:OK. Then we'll just have Guatemalans, Salvadorans, etc. coming across our southern border.... a border that will be much more difficult to patrol.

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Bullshit, build a wall down on the peninsula from Coatzacoalcos to Salina Cruz it would only be 200 some miles long and guard it with our military. Kill anyone within a half mile of it and send a message.

mrklean wrote:Invade Mexico and make it the 51 state. Kill all Drug dealers on site. This invasion I would support 1000%

mrklean wrote:Invade Mexico and make it the 51 state. Kill all Drug dealers on site. This invasion I would support 1000%

Skjellyfetti wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Bullshit, build a wall down on the peninsula from Coatzacoalcos to Salina Cruz it would only be 200 some miles long and guard it with our military. Kill anyone within a half mile of it and send a message.

Ah, Tehuantepec. Almost the route they built the canal instead of Panama. That would certainly work if you wanted to do that.

If you build the wall there, I guess you would shut out Yucatan, Campeche, Quintana Roo, Chiapas, part of Oaxaca and part of Veracruz. You lose out on the largest oil field in Mexico (and one of the largest in the world)... the best beaches in Mexico (and some of the best in the world), and many of the safest states in Mexico. Country would be fairly well off per capita with all their tourism and oil money.

SDHornet wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:
Ah, Tehuantepec. Almost the route they built the canal instead of Panama. That would certainly work if you wanted to do that.

If you build the wall there, I guess you would shut out Yucatan, Campeche, Quintana Roo, Chiapas, part of Oaxaca and part of Veracruz. You lose out on the largest oil field in Mexico (and one of the largest in the world)... the best beaches in Mexico (and some of the best in the world), and many of the safest states in Mexico. Country would be fairly well off per capita with all their tourism and oil money.

Somebody is working on obtaining their honorary brown card.

Skjellyfetti wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote: Bullshit, build a wall down on the peninsula from Coatzacoalcos to Salina Cruz it would only be 200 some miles long and guard it with our military. Kill anyone within a half mile of it and send a message.

Ah, Tehuantepec. Almost the route they built the canal instead of Panama. That would certainly work if you wanted to do that.

If you build the wall there, I guess you would shut out Yucatan, Campeche, Quintana Roo, Chiapas, part of Oaxaca and part of Veracruz. You lose out on the largest oil field in Mexico (and one of the largest in the world)... the best beaches in Mexico (and some of the best in the world), and many of the safest states in Mexico. Country would be fairly well off per capita with all their tourism and oil money.

psychoCAT wrote:

mrklean wrote:Invade Mexico and make it the 51 state. Kill all Drug dealers on site. This invasion I would support 1000%

You would think as much as out govt. loves taxes, they would just go ahead and declare all narcotics legal and impose the highest tax on said drugs in the history of taxation. Never understood why drugs/prostitution can't be legalized but any other vice is allowed?

By any metric, Portugal’s drug-decriminalization scheme has been a resounding success. Drug usage in many categories has decreased in absolute terms, including for key demographic groups, like 15-to-19-year-olds. Where usage rates have increased, the increases have been modest — far less than in most other European Union nations, which continue to use a criminalization approach.

Portugal, whose drug problems were among the worst in Europe, now has the lowest usage rate for marijuana and one of the lowest for cocaine. Drug-related pathologies, including HIV transmission, hepatitis transmission and drug-related deaths, have declined significantly.

kalm wrote:

psychoCAT wrote:
You would think as much as out govt. loves taxes, they would just go ahead and declare all narcotics legal and impose the highest tax on said drugs in the history of taxation. Never understood why drugs/prostitution can't be legalized but any other vice is allowed?

By any metric, Portugal’s drug-decriminalization scheme has been a resounding success. Drug usage in many categories has decreased in absolute terms, including for key demographic groups, like 15-to-19-year-olds. Where usage rates have increased, the increases have been modest — far less than in most other European Union nations, which continue to use a criminalization approach.

Portugal, whose drug problems were among the worst in Europe, now has the lowest usage rate for marijuana and one of the lowest for cocaine. Drug-related pathologies, including HIV transmission, hepatitis transmission and drug-related deaths, have declined significantly.

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And as I mentioned in another thread, drug related gun violence has to be a huge percentage of the problem so you could dramatically reduce gun violence without infringing on anyone's rights.

AZGrizFan wrote:

kalm wrote:




http://www.cato.org/publications/commen ... olicy-pays" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And as I mentioned in another thread, drug related gun violence has to be a huge percentage of the problem so you could dramatically reduce gun violence without infringing on anyone's rights.

One of the many things that discussion on this very board has caused me to reconsider and change my position on.

BDKJMU wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
One of the many things that discussion on this very board has caused me to reconsider and change my position on.

Waffler..

AZGrizFan wrote:

BDKJMU wrote:
Waffler..

I prefer to think of it as "open minded".

kalm wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
I prefer to think of it as "open minded".

Lib!

eagleskins wrote:I always wondered why the brothers hated the mexicants so much.

A man from El Salvador in the U.S. illegally who sued San Francisco after police turned him over to immigration authorities in violation of the city's sanctuary law is set to be awarded $190,000, his attorney said Thursday.

Pedro Figueroa-Zarceno, 33, reached the settlement agreement with the city attorney's office, said Saira Hussain, a staff attorney at the Asian Law Caucus who represented Zarceno. The agreement must be approved by the Board of Supervisors.

The construction worker said he went to police in December 2015 after getting a call from authorities that his stolen car had been found. Instead of helping him, he said, officers detained him and called immigration authorities.

He was taken into custody by federal authorities outside the police station and was in jail for two months. He has been fighting his deportation since his release.

"What happened to me was very unfair and it was an injustice," Figueroa-Zerceno said. "I went into the police station to seek help and they didn't tell me what was happening and they arrested me and treated me badly."

City law prohibits law enforcement officers from cooperating with federal immigration officials except when violent criminals are involved.

Part of the law's purpose was to encourage immigrants to report crimes they may be afraid of disclosing because of fear that investigating officers would turn them over to immigration authorities.

93henfan wrote:California.

Poetic justice.

Baldy wrote:

93henfan wrote:California.

Poetic justice.

Secede, please.

93henfan wrote:San Francisco.

Poetic justice.

SDHornet wrote:

93henfan wrote:San Francisco.

Poetic justice.

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