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Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq War
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:14 pm
by BDKJMU
According to Feinstein military vets shouldn't be allowed to own the firearms that would be banned because they might have PTSD, which according to her didn't exist before the Iraq war...
She must be as dumb as that donk congressman with the island might tip over comment.
"......with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War....."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... s_ban.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't know whether to
or
. How could someone elected to the US Senate could say something so dumb?
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:24 pm
by SuperHornet
Poli Troll Brother spin in ...3...2...1....
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:02 pm
by Bronco
“AFTER YEARS OF HISTORIC DEFICITS, THIS 110th CONGRESS WILL COMMIT ITSELF TO A HIGHER STANDARD; PAY-AS-YOU-GO, NO NEW DEFICIT SPENDING. OUR NEW AMERICA WILL PROVIDE UNLIMITED OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, NOT BURDEN THEM WITH MOUNTAINS OF DEBT.” …Nancy Pelosi, 2007
I'm investing in something I believe in. I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels." -- Nancy Pelosi
“Democrats have long fought for fiscal responsibility.” Pelosi
“President Obama was a job creator from day one.” Pelosi
Pelosi: Obama ‘Has Tried So Hard to Listen, to Accommodate, to Be Respectful’ to the GOP
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:21 pm
by AZGrizFan
BDKJMU wrote:According to Feinstein military vets shouldn't be allowed to own the firearms that would be banned because they might have PTSD, which according to her didn't exist before the Iraq war...
She must be as dumb as that donk congressman with the island might tip over comment.
"......with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War....."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... s_ban.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't know whether to
or
. How could someone elected to the US Senate could say something so dumb?
You've seen the video of the congressman who was concerned about Guam tipping over, haven't you?
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:21 am
by D1B
AZGrizFan wrote:BDKJMU wrote:According to Feinstein military vets shouldn't be allowed to own the firearms that would be banned because they might have PTSD, which according to her didn't exist before the Iraq war...
She must be as dumb as that donk congressman with the island might tip over comment.
"......with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War....."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... s_ban.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't know whether to
or
. How could someone elected to the US Senate could say something so dumb?
You've seen the video of the congressman who was concerned about Guam tipping over, haven't you?
Did you type this from your fortified prepper pit in your backyard. Shivering in fear, sucking thumb and clutching gun?
Crazy ass conks.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:49 am
by BDKJMU
AZGrizFan wrote:BDKJMU wrote:According to Feinstein military vets shouldn't be allowed to own the firearms that would be banned because they might have PTSD, which according to her didn't exist before the Iraq war...
She must be as dumb as that donk congressman with the island might tip over comment.
"......with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War....."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... s_ban.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't know whether to
or
. How could someone elected to the US Senate could say something so dumb?
You've seen the video of the congressman who was concerned about Guam tipping over, haven't you?
Mentioned it in the initial post.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:50 am
by BDKJMU
Bronco wrote:“AFTER YEARS OF HISTORIC DEFICITS, THIS 110th CONGRESS WILL COMMIT ITSELF TO A HIGHER STANDARD; PAY-AS-YOU-GO, NO NEW DEFICIT SPENDING. OUR NEW AMERICA WILL PROVIDE UNLIMITED OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, NOT BURDEN THEM WITH MOUNTAINS OF DEBT.” …Nancy Pelosi, 2007
I'm investing in something I believe in. I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels." -- Nancy Pelosi
“Democrats have long fought for fiscal responsibility.” Pelosi
“President Obama was a job creator from day one.” Pelosi
Pelosi: Obama ‘Has Tried So Hard to Listen, to Accommodate, to Be Respectful’ to the GOP
More from the idiot Botox Queen 2 days ago:
"........“Tax cuts are spending. Tax expenditures, they are called..... They are called tax expenditures. Spending money on tax breaks. And that’s the spending that we must curtail as well.”......."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... e-spendin/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:52 am
by kalm
Yep, Pelosi and Feinstein are both dopes.
Can we now show some Louie Gohmert quotes?
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:52 am
by BDKJMU
Hoyer: "The Country Has A Paying For Problem," Not A Spending Problem....
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... oblem.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:03 am
by BDKJMU
".....We have federal regulations and state laws that prohibit hunting ducks with more than three rounds. And yet it’s legal to hunt humans with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines......"
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03 ... magazines/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Is she that dumb, or is she making bizarre, outlandish comments just to get attention?
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:39 am
by CID1990
All the other stuff aside, she's a dumb kitty if she really thinks PTSD is a recent thing.
Hopefully veterans groups break it off in her ass over this. She's never been a friend of the military.
Sent from the center of the universe.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:03 pm
by JohnStOnge
Frankly I put an asterisk by anything that come out of the fields of psychology and psychiatry. I wouldn't even assume that PSTD exists.
It's not like saying someone has cancer where you do a biopsy and look at the cells. Everything in the fields of psychiatry and psychology is soft.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:10 pm
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote:Frankly I put an asterisk by anything that come out of the fields of psychology and psychiatry. I wouldn't even assume that PSTD exists.
It's not like saying someone has cancer where you do a biopsy and look at the cells. Everything in the fields of psychiatry and psychology is soft.
I know a well adjusted guy who went away to Iraq and came back changed. Constantly twitching, eyes constantly shifting, strung out.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:00 pm
by 93henfan
JohnStOnge wrote:Frankly I put an asterisk by anything that come out of the fields of psychology and psychiatry. I wouldn't even assume that PSTD exists.
It's not like saying someone has cancer where you do a biopsy and look at the cells. Everything in the fields of psychiatry and psychology is soft.
John, I agree that a lot of psychology and psychiatry are soft. I also agree that there are thousands of veterans that got bullshit PTSD diagnoses just to obtain various benefits.
That being said, PTSD as a phenomenon is very, very real.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:23 pm
by Pwns
93henfan wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:Frankly I put an asterisk by anything that come out of the fields of psychology and psychiatry. I wouldn't even assume that PSTD exists.
It's not like saying someone has cancer where you do a biopsy and look at the cells. Everything in the fields of psychiatry and psychology is soft.
John, I agree that a lot of psychology and psychiatry are soft. I also agree that there are thousands of veterans that got bullshit PTSD diagnoses just to obtain various benefits.
That being said, PTSD as a phenomenon is very, very real.
Agree with both of you. There's a lot of quackery in psychiatry and psychology but for the most part PTSD isn't ambivalent ground. It's pretty serious stuff.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:23 pm
by clenz
93henfan wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:Frankly I put an asterisk by anything that come out of the fields of psychology and psychiatry. I wouldn't even assume that PSTD exists.
It's not like saying someone has cancer where you do a biopsy and look at the cells. Everything in the fields of psychiatry and psychology is soft.
John, I agree that a lot of psychology and psychiatry are soft. I also agree that there are thousands of veterans that got bullshit PTSD diagnoses just to obtain various benefits.
That being said, PTSD as a phenomenon is very, very real.
I need to stop reading when this fucking retard talks about psycology/mental health.
Being married to a counselor, and have multiple friends who have served overseas I can promise you it's real. Find someone that served in 'nam and just sneak up on them like a enemy would have and watch what they do.
Shit, doesn't even have to be war related. There are a ton of people who have been in serious car accidents that don't want to get in cars....TBH was in a serious accident in HS going around a curve in a road, to this day (10-11 years later) if I'm driving and I take a curve even a touch to quick for her she locks up. It's very real.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:35 pm
by Grizalltheway
clenz wrote:93henfan wrote:
John, I agree that a lot of psychology and psychiatry are soft. I also agree that there are thousands of veterans that got bullshit PTSD diagnoses just to obtain various benefits.
That being said, PTSD as a phenomenon is very, very real.
I need to stop reading when this fucking retard talks about psycology/mental health.
Being married to a counselor, and have multiple friends who have served overseas I can promise you it's real. Find someone that served in 'nam and just sneak up on them like a enemy would have and watch what they do.
Shit, doesn't even have to be war related. There are a ton of people who have been in serious car accidents that don't want to get in cars....TBH was in a serious accident in HS going around a curve in a road, to this day (10-11 years later) if I'm driving and I take a curve even a touch to quick for her she locks up. It's very real.
He's just butthurt that they don't classify homosexuality as a mental illness.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:53 pm
by Screamin_Eagle174
Grizalltheway wrote:clenz wrote:
I need to stop reading when this fucking retard talks about psycology/mental health.
Being married to a counselor, and have multiple friends who have served overseas I can promise you it's real. Find someone that served in 'nam and just sneak up on them like a enemy would have and watch what they do.
Shit, doesn't even have to be war related. There are a ton of people who have been in serious car accidents that don't want to get in cars....TBH was in a serious accident in HS going around a curve in a road, to this day (10-11 years later) if I'm driving and I take a curve even a touch to quick for her she locks up. It's very real.
He's just butthurt that they don't classify homosexuality as a mental illness.
Funny, but sadly the truth.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:44 am
by Ibanez
Maybe she means the name, PTSD, didn't exist. Back in the day it was SHELLSHOCK!
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:57 am
by 93henfan
Ibanez wrote:Maybe she means the name, PTSD, didn't exist. Back in the day it was SHELLSHOCK!
Carlin did a great skit on this.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYE_unBFxuU[/youtube]
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:39 pm
by houndawg
BDKJMU wrote:According to Feinstein military vets shouldn't be allowed to own the firearms that would be banned because they might have PTSD, which according to her didn't exist before the Iraq war...
She must be as dumb as that donk congressman with the island might tip over comment.
"......with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War....."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... s_ban.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't know whether to
or
.
How could someone elected to the US Senate could say something so dumb?
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:44 pm
by houndawg
Bronco wrote:“AFTER YEARS OF HISTORIC DEFICITS, THIS 110th CONGRESS WILL COMMIT ITSELF TO A HIGHER STANDARD; PAY-AS-YOU-GO, NO NEW DEFICIT SPENDING. OUR NEW AMERICA WILL PROVIDE UNLIMITED OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, NOT BURDEN THEM WITH MOUNTAINS OF DEBT.” …Nancy Pelosi, 2007
I'm investing in something I believe in. I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels." -- Nancy Pelosi
“Democrats have long fought for fiscal responsibility.” Pelosi
“President Obama was a job creator from day one.” Pelosi
Pelosi: Obama ‘Has Tried So Hard to Listen, to Accommodate, to Be Respectful’ to the GOP
Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:49 pm
by JohnStOnge
I need to stop reading when this **** retard talks about psycology/mental health.
Being married to a counselor, and have multiple friends who have served overseas I can promise you it's real. Find someone that served in 'nam and just sneak up on them like a enemy would have and watch what they do.
No. That's not the way you would do it if you were to try to find out if it is real. To find out if it's real you would talk to people while making sure there was no way you would know if they were in a war or not, etc., and see if you saw something you could measure that said there is an indentifiable disorder.
When it comes to physical disorders there are hard, concrete diagnostic tools. Like if someone is vomitting and has the runs you can take a stool sample. And let's say you identify norovirus in the stool sample. Then you know they had gastroenteritis caused by norovirus infection. There are hard and fast, unequivocal symptoms such as throwing up uncontrollably and repeatedly and there is a pathogen identified in the stool that accounts for it. NOTHING in psychology or psychology is like that. It's a "soft" science.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:01 pm
by JohnStOnge
He's just butthurt that they don't classify homosexuality as a mental illness.
You know I hadn't thought about that in the context of this discussion but the pronoucements of the fields of psychology and psychiartry on the issue of homosexuality are indeed further evidence of how little credibility those fields have.
Or it'd better to say
should have. They do have credibility in terms of perceptions within the population. But they shouldn't. The confidence is misplaced.
Re: Feinstein: PTSD new phenomenon that started with Iraq Wa
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:36 pm
by BDKJMU
houndawg wrote:Bronco wrote:
Gotta laugh at this one. The only thing that Obama has done with the GOP is to kick the bejeezus out them with metronomic regularity and make them the laughingstock of the nation
Yeah, Obama was beating the conks so bad that the donks lost 6 Senate seats and lost the House in 10' while losing 63 seats.
The 14' midterm will prove who's beating who...