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on tax policy, where Bush advocated lower tax rates for all and Obama pushed for higher rates on the rich, Bush's tax cuts for the middle class not only have survived under Obama, they have become permanent.

But in his more than four years of governing, Obama has also adopted or let stand a series of Bush initiatives, illustrating how the policies of one administration can take hold and how the realities of governing often limit solutions.
Bush's signature education plan, No Child Left Behind, remains the law of the land, though the Obama administration has granted states waivers to give them flexibility in meeting performance targets. A Bush Medicare prescription drug plan, criticized for its cost, is now popular with beneficiaries, and Obama has sought to improve it by providing relief for seniors with high bills. Obama continued the unpopular bank bailouts and expanded the auto industry rescue that Bush initiated in 2008.
Bush authorized a military surge in Iraq in an effort to tame the conflict there. Obama completed the withdrawal of troops from Iraq but also authorized a military surge in Afghanistan before beginning a drawdown of troops that is expected to be completed at the end of 2014.

Obama, like Bush during his presidency, is seeking an overhaul of immigration laws that give 11 million immigrants in the U.S. illegally a chance to get on a path toward citizenship. Bush came up short in 2007, but Bolten believes that six years later the nation and its politicians are in a different place.
"President Bush was just ahead of his time and his party in recognizing both the importance of reaching some sort of bipartisan accommodation and on what the elements of that might reasonably be," he said.

Even measures or issues that were unpopular under one president can appear different with the passage of time and under the direction of a new occupant in the White House.

Jack Goldsmith, who was an assistant attorney general in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel during Bush's first term, says Obama's use of warrantless surveillance, military detentions without trial and increased drone strikes has received less pushback than it would under a Republican president.

kalm wrote:.

AZGrizFan wrote:

kalm wrote:.

And a fanatical left one when it comes to social issues and government intrusion.

AZGrizFan wrote:

kalm wrote:.

And a fanatical left one when it comes to social issues and government intrusion.

kalm wrote: On social issues, he's following a majority of Americans.

kalm wrote:And define government intrusion.

Baldy wrote:

kalm wrote: On social issues, he's following a majority of Americans.

Not a poll on social issues but interesting nevertheless. There's not really a poll out there on generic social policy, but looking at it issue by issue, Obama probably fares much better, but is most likely underwater as a whole also.



Obama is underwater on 8 of the 9 issues.

kalm wrote:And define government intrusion.

Ummmm...Obamacare

kalm wrote:

Baldy wrote: Not a poll on social issues but interesting nevertheless. There's not really a poll out there on generic social policy, but looking at it issue by issue, Obama probably fares much better, but is most likely underwater as a whole also.



Obama is underwater on 8 of the 9 issues.


Ummmm...Obamacare

Oh yeah that's right. But thats not wildly left. It's wildly corporatist.

AZGrizFan wrote:

kalm wrote:
Oh yeah that's right. But thats not wildly left. It's wildly corporatist.

Grizalltheway wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

He's right. It was sold as being leftist/populist, but big insurance are the ones who will benefit the most from it.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
He's right. It was sold as being leftist/populist, but big insurance are the ones who will benefit the most from it.

Any time the government FORCES me to buy a product, it's big brother at it's finest. SOME corporation/industry is always going to find a way to benefit.

Ibanez wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Any time the government FORCES me to buy a product, it's big brother at it's finest. SOME corporation/industry is always going to find a way to benefit.

The healthcare and pharmaceutical companies are going to show record profits. It's legitimate rape.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote: The healthcare and pharmaceutical companies are going to show record profits. It's legitimate rape.

Healthcare lobby sanctioned.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Ibanez wrote: The healthcare and pharmaceutical companies are going to show record profits. It's legitimate rape.

Government sanctioned.

ASUMountaineer wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Government sanctioned.

Nevertheless, the insurance companies are the big winners. It's a plutocracy at its finest. There's no way to legitimately argue otherwise.

kalm wrote:

ASUMountaineer wrote:
Nevertheless, the insurance companies are the big winners. It's a plutocracy at its finest. There's no way to legitimately argue otherwise.

Yep. And both parties play the game, thus the similarities between Obushma (hint to AZ...Medicare part D)

Grizalltheway wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Healthcare lobby sanctioned.

Fixed.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:
Fixed.

There's lots of lobbyists. Rarely do they get their wishes codified into law to the point where their product is MANDATED and you are FINED if you DON'T purchase their product.

kalm wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
There's lots of lobbyists. Rarely do they get their wishes codified into law to the point where their product is MANDATED and you are FINED if you DON'T purchase their product.

kalm wrote:Oh yeah that's right. But thats not wildly left. It's wildly corporatist.

AZGrizFan wrote:

kalm wrote:

Sad that you find Obamacare funny.