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expandspanos wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEuVTERHtEg[/youtube]

The "heat wave" has been accompanied by a very strange effect- people say "it looks like there's a fire.. the sunlight looks like its being filtered out".. "The sunlight isn't as bright as it looks usually"

Everyone around here is noticing it- yet the temperature is much higher than it normally is..

Probably just a lot of heavy metals in the upper atmosphere, being heated by facilities such as HAARP, creating a warming trend.. nothing to see here folks.

Al Gore talks about how "the sky wouldn't be blue, like it is now anymore" when the Global Warming nut-cases get their way to spray our sky with airplanes 24/7 (something they're already doing now):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGMZ1sf5U8I[/youtube]

D1B wrote:Too bad Z ain't still out there to suffer.

Conks

A new study has just come out that looked at nearly 12,000 professional scientific journal papers about global warming, and found that—of the papers expressing a stance on global warming—97 percent endorse both the reality of global warming and the fact that humans are causing it.

Ninety-seven percent. That’s what we call a “consensus”, folks.

The study was clever. They found the papers by searching on the terms “global warming” and “global climate change”. Once they compiled the list of papers, they looked at the abstracts (a short summary of the results scientists put at the top of their papers) to see if the paper itself talked about the causes of global warming. About 4000 of the papers did so. That may seem like a smallish fraction, but most papers analyze measurements and climate effects, not the cause of global warming (like most astronomical papers on, say, galaxies don’t discuss how galaxies form, but focus on their structure, content, and so on—also, because there is such a strong consensus on warming, scientists don't generally feel the need to state the obvious in their abstracts).

Examining those 4000 papers, the study authors determined that 97.1 percent of them endorsed the consensus that humans are causing global warming. And here’s where they did the clever bit: They contacted 8500 authors of the papers in question and asked them to self-rate those papers. They got responses from 1200 authors (a nice fraction), and, using the same criteria as the study, it turns out 97.2 percent of the authors endorse the consensus.

That’s a remarkable agreement! And it’s no surprise. There have been several studies showing almost exactly the same thing. This new one is interesting due to the methodology, and the fact that it’s so robust.

So, the bottom line: The vast majority of scientists who conduct climatological research and publish their results in professional journals say humans are the cause of global warming. There is essentially no controversy among actual climate scientists about this.

kalm wrote: Like I've been saying for years, there's really not much of a controversy regarding whether the earth has been warming and whether humans play a role. There may be a few skeptics and right wing think tank/fossil fuel industry scientists that dispute this, but there's not a single scientific organization that does.

Baldy wrote:

kalm wrote: Like I've been saying for years, there's really not much of a controversy regarding whether the earth has been warming and whether humans play a role. There may be a few skeptics and right wing think tank/fossil fuel industry scientists that dispute this, but there's not a single scientific organization that does.

...and that differs from left wing think tank/government funded scientists how?

I love how these so-called "climatologists" can study 120 years of an objects 4,500,000,000 year history and have all the answers.

Spoiler: show

expandspanos wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEuVTERHtEg[/youtube]

The "heat wave" has been accompanied by a very strange effect- people say "it looks like there's a fire.. the sunlight looks like its being filtered out".. "The sunlight isn't as bright as it looks usually"

Everyone around here is noticing it- yet the temperature is much higher than it normally is..

Probably just a lot of heavy metals in the upper atmosphere, being heated by facilities such as HAARP, creating a warming trend.. nothing to see here folks.

Al Gore talks about how "the sky wouldn't be blue, like it is now anymore" when the Global Warming nut-cases get their way to spray our sky with airplanes 24/7 (something they're already doing now):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGMZ1sf5U8I[/youtube]

Baldy wrote:

D1B wrote:Too bad Z ain't still out there to suffer.

Conks

Just after we just had the coldest Spring in US history.

Pwns wrote:On another note, much of the southeast seems to have recovered from the drought and then some. I thought we needed to get used to drought for the foreseeable future because it had to do with changing climate?

Oh well, have to make people forget about failed predictions about worsening droughts and increasingly worse hurricane seasons and move on to talking about the next weather anomaly du jour to try and keep people scared.

Maybe we can change the buzz word again from "climate change" to "climate destabilization" if it ever stops working.

kalm wrote:

Pwns wrote:On another note, much of the southeast seems to have recovered from the drought and then some. I thought we needed to get used to drought for the foreseeable future because it had to do with changing climate?

Oh well, have to make people forget about failed predictions about worsening droughts and increasingly worse hurricane seasons and move on to talking about the next weather anomaly du jour to try and keep people scared.

Maybe we can change the buzz word again from "climate change" to "climate destabilization" if it ever stops working.

Isn't destabilization a predicted part of global warming? Increased water vapor in the air which can lead to increased and stronger storm activity and in some cases a temporary cooling affect.

GannonFan wrote: We're not going to reverse climate change - barring some huge, Malthusian reduction in world population, it ain't gonna happen.

AZGrizFan wrote:

GannonFan wrote: We're not going to reverse climate change - barring some huge, Malthusian reduction in world population, it ain't gonna happen.

Read Dan Brown's new book.

GannonFan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Read Dan Brown's new book.

I actually got it for Father's Day - will beach reading in a couple of weeks.

citdog wrote:I arrived in Missoula over the weekend and am wondering just what in the hell all the fuss is about. It feels like SPRING in the Confederacy here and all the folks are bitching about the "oppressive heat". Well all the 87 year old flashlight shining, jordan wearing, rainbow family gathering rejects are anyway.

93henfan wrote:If weather.com's forecast is correct, Missoula is supposed to get to 97 today with 43% humidity. That's pretty darn hot.

But isn't this like a once-in-20-years sort of spike for MT? That's sort of a normal day in July on the east coast, except our humidity would be double.

Ibanez wrote:

93henfan wrote:If weather.com's forecast is correct, Missoula is supposed to get to 97 today with 43% humidity. That's pretty darn hot.

But isn't this like a once-in-20-years sort of spike for MT? That's sort of a normal day in July on the east coast, except our humidity would be double.

So what you're saying is that the Montana boys are a bunch of mary's that couldn't handle the EC(b), right? If so, then I agree.





I'd kill for 43% humidity.

Grizalltheway wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
So what you're saying is that the Montana boys are a bunch of mary's that couldn't handle the EC(b), right? If so, then I agree.





I'd kill for 43% humidity.

You wouldn't last 10 minutes on the Highline in January.

@ 93: it usually hits triple digits out in eastern Montana every summer, but it's in a little less common in the western part of the state.

Grizalltheway wrote:You wouldn't last 10 minutes on the Highline in January.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:You wouldn't last 10 minutes on the Highline in January.

He wouldn't last 10 minutes INDOORS on the Highline in January.

Spoiler: show

I know you're talking about the Border of 'Merica and our Hat.