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Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/11?
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:18 pm
by expandspanos
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ttp://benswann.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Ben Swann Reality Check takes a look at claims by Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth about why they say the official story on the collapse of Building 7 is not only untrue, it is not possible. Also, a new poll shows that more and more Americans are now rethinking the official story.
Italian PM: "'9/11 was an inside job"
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An Italian MP has described the 9/11 terrorist attacks, in which around 3,000 people were killed, as "an inside job" and slammed the official version of events as a "conspiracy".
Bernini, an MP for the Five Star Movement (M5S) was speaking in parliament on Thursday, the 12th anniversary of the attacks.
He said that the official version of the event has been "proved wrong from every point of view".
"It’s clearly false and by now, the world has realized."
On 11th September 2001 terrorists hijacked four planes in the US; two crashed into New York’s World Trade Centre, another struck the Pentagon in Washington, while the fourth crashed in Pennsylvania after passengers fought against the hijackers.
But Bernini believes the account of what happened is a "conspiracy".
“We will probably never know the truth, but it is definitely completely different to the story told by mainstream media. In which case you can say that everything that you know is false and, as the American phrase goes, ‘It was an inside job’,” he said.
The 26-year-old, elected in February in the central Emilia-Romagna region, went on to elaborate on Twitter.
“If someone can show me a video where you can clearly see the plane hitting the Pentagon (the most watched place in the world)...I will resign,” Bernini wrote.
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:33 pm
by expandspanos
Distinguished U.S Marine Stands Up for American People and 9/11 Truth
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This video was shot on september 11th 2013, in Time Sq at an Rethink911.org rally. In this video John a former U.S Marine with 5 engineering degrees with an expertise in aviation and missile defense says he knows the U.S government is lying about the 9/11 terrorist events.
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:41 pm
by houndawg
Got any links to peer-reviewed engineering or scientific journals? Didn't I ask you that about two years ago?
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:07 pm
by Grizalltheway
So did you stop smearing poop on the walls long enough to go out and protest yesterday?
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:38 pm
by HI54UNI
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:39 pm
by HI54UNI
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:23 pm
by expandspanos
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:42 pm
by Skjellyfetti
You are one dumb motherfucker.
Reality check: there are a lot of Americans who are, unfortunately, as dumb as you.
WTC 7 had been on fire ALL DAY before it collapsed. It collapsed about 7 or 8 hours after the other towers.
It didn't suddenly "impolode" as your cute .gifs suggest.
Footage that kills the conspiracy theories: Unseen 9/11 footage shows WTC Building 7 consumed by fire
Its dramatic collapse several hours after the Twin Towers fell triggered a decade of conspiracy theories.
Those who believed that the September 11 attacks on America were not carried out by Al Qaeda terrorists pointed to the fall of World Trade Center Building 7 as proof of their wild claims.
But a newly released video appears to finally prove once and for all that Building 7 was brought down by the intense heat of the blazing World Trade Center - and not explosives, as conspiracy theorists claim.
The video shows up-close shots of the lower floors of World Trade Center Building 7, located just across the street from the Twin Towers, and focuses in on the exterior metal beams of Building 7 as they begin to buckle as they are overheated.
The buckling led to floors falling in on one another, causing the building to collapse.
Though the entirety of the collapse is not shown in the video, it does show how there is legitimacy to the explanation provided by the government's 9/11 Commission investigation.
The video was made by a local news reporter and was released through a Freedom of Information Act request.
Shot from the north side of the building on Barclay Street, and between the buildings in the background, the video shows the mass of raging fires taking place on the grounds of the World Trade Center.
Though Building 7 was separate from the main World Trade Center complex, there were two pedestrian bridges connecting Building 7 to the main complex across the street, linking the buildings by the third floor.
In the video, viewers can see the glowing flames on what appears to be the sixth floor of the building, and as the camera zooms in, you can even see the metal bars of the exterior buckling.
It is unclear when exactly during the day the video is shot, but considering the fact that the building is still standing it must be well before it's collapse which happened at 5.21pm. That said, the news reporter is the only person we see on the street, so the mass confusion and evacuation that took place earlier in the morning in the midst of the attacks had settled at that point.
At points, the news reporter seems clearly aghast, saying 'It's a surreal environment' and 'It's almost impossible to describe'.
Official investigators say that after the South Tower fell at 9.59am and the North Tower at 10.28am, the pieces of the rubble did irreparable damage to Building 7, causing it to burn by floor by floor, getting progressively weaker along the way.
The investigation by the Federal Emergency Management Agency said that the collapse was caused by a combination of the damage from the debris - and not the impact of the debris itself- and lacking water in the fire sprinklers throughout the building.
The largest tenant of the 47-story building was the bank Salomon Smith Barney, but there were also offices of the CIA, the Department of Defence, utility company ConEd, and the Internal Revenue Service.
Because of the time span of the events, everyone was able to evacuate the building and there were no casualties within Building 7.
Government analysts part of the 9/11 Commission said that all three of the buildings that fell in New York that day were due to 'total progressive collapse,' which means that when a building has extreme damage in one area, the entire structure of the building is weakened as a result.
Unless the damage is limited to one area, it will have a domino effect, moving on to lower floors in the building until it entirely collapses.
Conspiracy theorists take issue with that account, believing instead that the government was involved in the placement of explosive devices throughout the New York buildings, and even go so far to say that the incident at the Pentagon was caused by a missile rather than a plane.
Burning: This side view of Building 7 as it burns shows the extent of the fire in the building even though it is across the street from the main World Trade Center complex
Buckling: The windows in the upper right corner show how the building's exterior frame could no longer withstand the high temperatures
Through the rubble: Looking around the buildings, viewers can see the blaze still alight where the Twin Towers had fallen
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Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:30 pm
by Skjellyfetti
expandspanos wrote:
Italian PM: "'9/11 was an inside job"
Not PM (prime minister) but MP (member of parliament).
I'm sure this was just a slight and you were not trying to give your random article about some random politician noone has heard of more credibility than it deserves.
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:53 pm
by expandspanos
Skjellyfetti: yes I meant MP
WTC 7 had isolated fires on a few levels.. no steel skyscraper consumed by fire caused it to collapse into the path of most resistance ever before in history, even though fires have burned much hotter, on many more stories, and much longer:
Steel skyscrapers DO NOT COLLAPSE INTO THE PATH OF MOST RESISTANCE DUE TO FIRE, EVER.
Recent examples being:
1. Beijing today fire
2. Chechnya: Grozny City Skyscraper
3. The One Meridian Plaza Fire
4. The First Interstate Bank Fire
5. The Windsor Building Fire
6. The Beijing Mandarin Oriental Hotel Fire
7. Caracas Tower Fire
8. Al Tayer Fire
None of those towers collapsed to do fire.
Now compare those fires, which did not cause those skyscraper to collapse to your lauded WTC-7 fire, which caused this over-engineered "bunker" of a skyscraper to fall into the path of MOST resistance:
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:02 pm
by Skjellyfetti
expandspanos wrote:
Steel skyscrapers DO NOT COLLAPSE INTO THE PATH OF MOST RESISTANCE DUE TO FIRE, EVER.
They do if they are built over a hollow space. WTC 7 was built over an underground subway and an electrical substation.
When that supports that gives out... the building will collapse in on itself into the hollow space below.
Think of it as a trapdoor.
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:53 pm
by grizzaholic
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:54 pm
by grizzaholic
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:59 pm
by BlueHen86
rethinkstupidthreads.com
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:14 pm
by CID1990
Why do you knuckleheads even respond to this cocksucker?
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:53 pm
by GoBlueHens83
This guy on the left....
What do you think is going through his mind right here?
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:49 am
by houndawg
So your answer to my question, spanko, is: "No, I do not have any links to articles published in peer-reviewed scientific or engineering journals, but here are some irrelevant pics of unrelated incidents."?
Thank you, that will be all. You are dismissed
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:32 am
by CID1990
GoBlueHens83 wrote:
This guy on the left....
What do you think is going through his mind right here?
"I think I caught a whiff of patchouli"
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:10 am
by grizzaholic
GoBlueHens83 wrote:
This guy on the left....
What do you think is going through his mind right here?
"If this bitch says that 9/11 was an inside job one more time I am going to pull her head off with my bare hands and roll it down the street."
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:14 am
by houndawg
GoBlueHens83 wrote:
This guy on the left....
What do you think is going through his mind right here?
Thank you ma'am, I love to adopt a wolf in Montana.
Re: Ben Swann Reality Check: More Americans "Rethinking" 9/1
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:12 am
by andy7171
GoBlueHens83 wrote:
This guy on the left....
What do you think is going through his mind right here?
I knew I should have driven in today.