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A report from the UK Energy Research Centre also shows the number of those who resolutely do not believe in climate change has more than quadrupled since 2005.

The Government funded report shows 19 per cent of people are climate change disbelievers - up from just four per cent in 2005 - while nine per cent did not know.

The report comes as climate change scientists working on a landmark UN report on climate change are struggling to explain why global warming appears to have slowed down in the past 15 years even though greenhouse gas emissions keep rising.

Dr. Roy Spencer, a former NASA scientist and author of Climate Confusion, argues in his influential blog the UN report shows scientists are being forced to "recognise reality".

He said: "We are now at the point in the age of global warming hysteria where the IPCC global warming theory has crashed into the hard reality of observations."

Green Party leader Natalie Bennett blamed the Government for the increase in climate change doubters.

She said: "When the government is so clearly failing to act on climate change, or take seriously its obligations under the Climate Change Act, it's not surprising that the level of doubt about climate change has risen.

Baldy wrote:The Government funded report shows 19 per cent of people are climate change disbelievers - up from just four per cent in 2005 - while nine per cent did not know.

She said: "When the government is so clearly failing to act on climate change, or take seriously its obligations under the Climate Change Act, it's not surprising that the level of doubt about climate change has risen.

Conspiracy Theory Poll Results

On our national poll this week we took the opportunity to poll 20 widespread and/or infamous conspiracy theories. Many of these theories are well known to the public, others perhaps to just the darker corners of the internet. Here’s what we found:

- 37% of voters believe global warming is a hoax, 51% do not. Republicans say global warming is a hoax by a 58-25 margin, Democrats disagree 11-77, and Independents are more split at 41-51. 61% of Romney voters believe global warming is a hoax

- 6% of voters believe Osama bin Laden is still alive

- 21% of voters say a UFO crashed in Roswell, NM in 1947 and the US government covered it up. More Romney voters (27%) than Obama voters (16%) believe in a UFO coverup

- 28% of voters believe secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government, or New World Order. A plurality of Romney voters (38%) believe in the New World Order compared to 35% who don’t

- 28% of voters believe Saddam Hussein was involved in the 9/11 attacks. 36% of Romney voters believe Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, 41% do not

- 20% of voters believe there is a link between childhood vaccines and autism, 51% do not

- 7% of voters think the moon landing was faked

- 13% of voters think Barack Obama is the anti-Christ, including 22% of Romney voters

- Voters are split 44%-45% on whether Bush intentionally misled about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. 72% of Democrats think Bush lied about WMDs, Independents agree 48-45, just 13% of Republicans think so

- 29% of voters believe aliens exist

- 14% of voters say the CIA was instrumental in creating the crack cocaine epidemic in America’s inner cities in the 1980’s

- 9% of voters think the government adds fluoride to our water supply for sinister reasons (not just dental health)

- 4% of voters say they believe “lizard people” control our societies by gaining political power

- 51% of voters say a larger conspiracy was at work in the JFK assassination, just 25% say Oswald acted alone

- 14% of voters believe in Bigfoot

- 15% of voters say the government or the media adds mind-controlling technology to TV broadcast signals (the so-called Tinfoil Hat crowd)

- 5% believe exhaust seen in the sky behind airplanes is actually chemicals sprayed by the government for sinister reasons

- 15% of voters think the medical industry and the pharmaceutical industry “invent” new diseases to make money

- Just 5% of voters believe that Paul McCartney actually died in 1966

- 11% of voters believe the US government allowed 9/11 to happen, 78% do not agree

kalm wrote:

Baldy wrote:The Government funded report shows 19 per cent of people are climate change disbelievers - up from just four per cent in 2005 - while nine per cent did not know.

She said: "When the government is so clearly failing to act on climate change, or take seriously its obligations under the Climate Change Act, it's not surprising that the level of doubt about climate change has risen.

None of this is surprising when you consider the amount of money spent by deniers and industry to refute it. And so what if 19% of "people" disbelieve?

Conspiracy Theory Poll Results

On our national poll this week we took the opportunity to poll 20 widespread and/or infamous conspiracy theories. Many of these theories are well known to the public, others perhaps to just the darker corners of the internet. Here’s what we found:

- 37% of voters believe global warming is a hoax, 51% do not. Republicans say global warming is a hoax by a 58-25 margin, Democrats disagree 11-77, and Independents are more split at 41-51. 61% of Romney voters believe global warming is a hoax

- 6% of voters believe Osama bin Laden is still alive

- 21% of voters say a UFO crashed in Roswell, NM in 1947 and the US government covered it up. More Romney voters (27%) than Obama voters (16%) believe in a UFO coverup

- 28% of voters believe secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government, or New World Order. A plurality of Romney voters (38%) believe in the New World Order compared to 35% who don’t

- 28% of voters believe Saddam Hussein was involved in the 9/11 attacks. 36% of Romney voters believe Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, 41% do not

- 20% of voters believe there is a link between childhood vaccines and autism, 51% do not

- 7% of voters think the moon landing was faked

- 13% of voters think Barack Obama is the anti-Christ, including 22% of Romney voters

- Voters are split 44%-45% on whether Bush intentionally misled about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. 72% of Democrats think Bush lied about WMDs, Independents agree 48-45, just 13% of Republicans think so

- 29% of voters believe aliens exist

- 14% of voters say the CIA was instrumental in creating the crack cocaine epidemic in America’s inner cities in the 1980’s

- 9% of voters think the government adds fluoride to our water supply for sinister reasons (not just dental health)

- 4% of voters say they believe “lizard people” control our societies by gaining political power

- 51% of voters say a larger conspiracy was at work in the JFK assassination, just 25% say Oswald acted alone

- 14% of voters believe in Bigfoot

- 15% of voters say the government or the media adds mind-controlling technology to TV broadcast signals (the so-called Tinfoil Hat crowd)

- 5% believe exhaust seen in the sky behind airplanes is actually chemicals sprayed by the government for sinister reasons

- 15% of voters think the medical industry and the pharmaceutical industry “invent” new diseases to make money

- Just 5% of voters believe that Paul McCartney actually died in 1966

- 11% of voters believe the US government allowed 9/11 to happen, 78% do not agree

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main ... ults-.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



BTW, climate scientists predicted the increase in sea ice this year after the record breaking reduction is sea ice last year.

Baldy wrote:

kalm wrote:

None of this is surprising when you consider the amount of money spent by deniers and industry to refute it. And so what if 19% of "people" disbelieve?



http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main ... ults-.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



BTW, climate scientists predicted the increase in sea ice this year after the record breaking reduction is sea ice last year.

Cool story, bro, but it still doesn't explain the decrease in "Global Warming" over the past 15 years. I mean, we keep pumping and pumping more and more of those evil nasty "greenhouse" gasses into the atmosphere, but the earth keeps getting cooler and cooler.

The results just don't fit the alarmists' narrative. They might have predicted an increase last year, but an almost 1,000,000 square mile or a 60% increase? Some of these expert alarmist 'scientists' were predicting that there would be no sea ice left just 5 short years ago. Now there is more arctic sea ice now then there was 10+ years ago?

The observable results are proving more and more that all this AGW crap is nothing more than an environmental Ponzi scheme.

D1B wrote:

Baldy wrote: Cool story, bro, but it still doesn't explain the decrease in "Global Warming" over the past 15 years. I mean, we keep pumping and pumping more and more of those evil nasty "greenhouse" gasses into the atmosphere, but the earth keeps getting cooler and cooler.

The results just don't fit the alarmists' narrative. They might have predicted an increase last year, but an almost 1,000,000 square mile or a 60% increase? Some of these expert alarmist 'scientists' were predicting that there would be no sea ice left just 5 short years ago. Now there is more arctic sea ice now then there was 10+ years ago?

The observable results are proving more and more that all this AGW crap is nothing more than an environmental Ponzi scheme.

Global Warming = Baldy's WMD in Iraq

houndawg wrote:"No, 'spandos got it right this time...." Cuck U

Cluck U wrote:

houndawg wrote:"No, 'spandos got it right this time...." Cuck U

Still haven't found that link where the U.N. implicates Assad using the poison gas yet, huh?
Let me help. It's right over there ------------------------->
No, wait...it's over to the left.
Errrrr....maybe a bit over in the other direction.
Possibly saved in your "favorites", right next to, "Boys in the Spring Time: A Modern Tale of Laborious Men Needing Other Laborious Men on May Day."

kalm wrote: BTW, climate scientists predicted the increase in sea ice this year after the record breaking reduction is sea ice last year.

93henfan wrote:Just to keep it real, weren't the Conks saying the warming was just a natural earth rhythm a few years back? Now they hang their hats on a one-year increase in polar ice as definitive evidence the earth is cooling?

hmmm

AZGrizFan wrote:

93henfan wrote:Just to keep it real, weren't the Conks saying the warming was just a natural earth rhythm a few years back? Now they hang their hats on a one-year increase in polar ice as definitive evidence the earth is cooling?

hmmm

It might also have something to do with the fact that there's been no warming for 15 years now.

93henfan wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
It might also have something to do with the fact that there's been no warming for 15 years now.

Yeah, because it's hotter than it's ever been, except for this year.

Hey, I'm with the Conks on more issues than the Donks, but for the life of me I cannot understand why people would say, eh, **** the kids and the planet that is the source and supporter of human existence. They can deal with all that **** after I'm gone. Meanwhile, I'll keep driving this diesel 250/2500 series heavy duty 4x4 to the grocery store by myself with no load to pick up a loaf of bread. And I'll go 85 mph on the highway there, blasting noxious smoke from the tuned engine and the straight pipe through the particulate filter and EGR system that I illegally defeated. Yee haw.

JohnStOnge wrote:i think this is a good summary of the story going around:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... wrong.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If that story is close to true I think it's safe to say that the IPCC will admit in its next report that the climate models models it referenced exaggerated things. But we'll see. We'll see when the reports come out.

But remember that they already admitted in at least one previous report that unequivocal attribution is not possible because it would require controlled experiments that can't be conducted. And if you can't even unequivocally attribute a change in the climate to any particular cause, how can you possibly unequivocally predict what the climate is going to do based on things you think cause the climate to do things?

See what I mean?

The problem, I think, is that the general public has ALWAYS had too much faith in what it possible here. They think because scientists say it and it's described as "science" it must be true. But it is not and can never be true science. True science with respect to cause and effect requires controlled experimentation. And the situation just doesn't lend itself to that.

AZGrizFan wrote:No one is denying climate change Myron....the climate is always changing. The question at hand is how much of an impact are the people 93 described above having on it?

BlueHen86 wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:No one is denying climate change Myron....the climate is always changing. The question at hand is how much of an impact are the people 93 described above having on it?

Oh, I guess I got confused by the thread title, and the link that was included in the first post.

Thanks for clearing things up Carnac.

JohnStOnge wrote:
The problem, I think, is that the general public has ALWAYS had too much faith in what it possible here. They think because scientists say it and it's described as "science" it must be true. But it is not and can never be true science. True science with respect to cause and effect requires controlled experimentation. And the situation just doesn't lend itself to that.

expandspanos wrote:I probably should stay out of this, but because this is a snow-job hit piece and because I'm not afraid of controversy, I won't.

Funny how this article never talked about the then "conspiracy theory" that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was staged to get the US into the Vietnam war (which has now been formally admitted).. "conspiracy" people were made fun of for years believing that now admitted FACT.

- 37% of voters believe global warming is a hoax, 51% do not. Republicans say global warming is a hoax by a 58-25 margin, Democrats disagree 11-77, and Independents are more split at 41-51. 61% of Romney voters believe global warming is a hoax

Poorly worded question, as there could be a number of factors.

1. Global Warming could be real, but not (caused by human activity) but instead caused by changes in the sun.
2. Global Warming could be real, but caused by large scale weather modification programs which have been taken place for the last few decades.
3. Global Warming could be a natural warming period- but pounced on by the elite to herald in new "carbon taxes" on every living human on the planet.

My opinion: "Global Warming" is a natural fluctuation because other planets are experiencing a simultaneous "warming trend" but then again, the Earth has NEVER remained the same temperature EVER- as the Holocene Epoch, "Mini Ice Age" and "Medieval Warm Period" have demonstrated.

- 6% of voters believe Osama bin Laden is still alive

Another poorly worded question: The real question should have been: "Do you believe Bin Laden has in fact been DEAD since 2001, like Benazir Bhutto said was the case? and do you think the scam "burial at sea" was in fact a big fat lie?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MBTd5QNGB0[/youtube]

The way the question is worded avoids the reality of the situation- Bin Laden is not alive now, but he died a lot earlier than the fake Seal Team 6 bullshit.

- 21% of voters say a UFO crashed in Roswell, NM in 1947 and the US government covered it up. More Romney voters (27%) than Obama voters (16%) believe in a UFO coverup

I do not believe in Aliens, or UFO's and see no proof that "they" have visited us at all.

- 28% of voters believe secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government, or New World Order. A plurality of Romney voters (38%) believe in the New World Order compared to 35% who don’t

I do not agree that a secretive power elite is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government- I believe they already do rule the world.

- 28% of voters believe Saddam Hussein was involved in the 9/11 attacks. 36% of Romney voters believe Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, 41% do not

Of course Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11- It was mostly our own CIA, British M16, Israeli Mossad, and the Saudi Arabian government.

- 20% of voters believe there is a link between childhood vaccines and autism, 51% do not

Haven't looked into it enough to be sure- one interesting fact: Amish children, who never receive vaccines do not get Autism.

- 7% of voters think the moon landing was faked

It was... That's why we haven't been back

- 13% of voters think Barack Obama is the anti-Christ, including 22% of Romney voters

Don't think so

- Voters are split 44%-45% on whether Bush intentionally misled about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. 72% of Democrats think Bush lied about WMDs, Independents agree 48-45, just 13% of Republicans think so

Bush definitely mislead about WMDs in Iraq.

- 29% of voters believe aliens exist

Again, no.

- 14% of voters say the CIA was instrumental in creating the crack cocaine epidemic in America’s inner cities in the 1980’s

There are a number of people who worked for the CIA who have validated this claim

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT5MY3C8 ... x2EI1RpYGl[/youtube]

- 9% of voters think the government adds fluoride to our water supply for sinister reasons (not just dental health)

I would definitely agree with this- Fluoride is a known Neurotoxin. Currently a number of other countries are in the process of removing Fluoride from their water supply, after learning about the negative health side-effects.. which include not only slowed thinking, but bone cancers.

- 4% of voters say they believe “lizard people” control our societies by gaining political power

That's a David Icke thing- he's a known disinformation shill.

- 51% of voters say a larger conspiracy was at work in the JFK assassination, just 25% say Oswald acted alone

It's more than likely Oswald was a patsy

- 14% of voters believe in Bigfoot

No proof.

- 15% of voters say the government or the media adds mind-controlling technology to TV broadcast signals (the so-called Tinfoil Hat crowd)

There are a lot of people who say the TV flicker rate is at the same rate as what puts people into a "suggestible trance-like state" I haven't really looked into this much, but I do know that what most people consider "news" is total propaganda.

- 5% believe exhaust seen in the sky behind airplanes is actually chemicals sprayed by the government for sinister reasons

Well, there is quite a bit of evidence to prove that airplanes are in fact spraying something- if you go to weathermodification.com you can order some spray for yourself... Sue them for breach of contract if they DON'T spray something.

In this video, planes spray a substance in the air doing "sky writing" they are clearly spraying..
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1D5QxCQSjI[/youtube]

The weather people are admitting airplanes are spraying the air as well:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij5eBmFm_BY[/youtube]

Russia Today jokes about airplanes changing the weather during a parade:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-3zgmd_nk[/youtube]

Watch at 1:25 in the below video, plane "contrails" turn on/off on a dime

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fNTUCddQW4[/youtube]


Many Americans have heard of "cloud seeding" do you think Airplanes just wave a magic wand and seed the clouds, or do you think they spray a chemical in to the air to seed the clouds?

- 15% of voters think the medical industry and the pharmaceutical industry “invent” new diseases to make money

Wouldn't surprise me really- They don't want natural cures because they can't make money, so it's not a huge stretch that they would in fact create a number of side-effects, which they could make money on.

I would really put nothing past the medical industry- They aren't here to help "cure people" they're here to make money-

A perfect example is this: "A bag of saline IV solution costs $0.44 to $1 to make, but US hospitals charge over $400, because of intermediary confidential deals and profit taking. In Paris hospitals, a bag costs $4.73."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/27/healt ... costs.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If they are willing to jack up the cost of of Saline from $1 to $400, what else are they willing to do?

- Just 5% of voters believe that Paul McCartney actually died in 1966

Haven't looked into it.

- 11% of voters believe the US government allowed 9/11 to happen, 78% do not agree

Us government didn't "allow" 9/11 to happen, they "made" it happen- along with Mossad, and M16 as was said earlier.

Chizzang wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:
The problem, I think, is that the general public has ALWAYS had too much faith in what it possible here. They think because scientists say it and it's described as "science" it must be true. But it is not and can never be true science. True science with respect to cause and effect requires controlled experimentation. And the situation just doesn't lend itself to that.

Yeah...^
Not so much Johnny

Science says the world is more than 6,000 years old and 40% of Americans disagree
Science says that Natural Selection is observable and suggests evolution 44% of Americans disagree
Something like 80% of Americans believe in Miracles (yes 80%)
Almost 20% of Americans think the sun revolves around the Earth
37% of Americans believe that "things" can be haunted / even after thousands of years of NOBODY on earth being able to provide ONE shred of hard evidence
25% percent believe vigorously in Astrology

Shall I keep going..?

Never underestimate how Stupid the Average American is
and Never over value Science... as a country we pay little attention (very little) to Science