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You can/will call it what you want...all I know is, defense is listed as one of the major duties of the Federal Government...social spending isn't...dbackjon wrote:So basically defense spending contains a great deal of local pork/stimulus/welfare?
Let's see, wasn't there something about standing armies.........Col Hogan wrote:You can/will call it what you want...all I know is, defense is listed as one of the major duties of the Federal Government...social spending isn't...dbackjon wrote:So basically defense spending contains a great deal of local pork/stimulus/welfare?
You be the judge...
Yep...now, go read it and tell me how that applies here...houndawg wrote:Let's see, wasn't there something about standing armies.........Col Hogan wrote:
You can/will call it what you want...all I know is, defense is listed as one of the major duties of the Federal Government...social spending isn't...
You be the judge...
I am not saying it is not. But all too often defense spending IS PORK, not needed for the constitutionally required defense commitments.Col Hogan wrote:You can/will call it what you want...all I know is, defense is listed as one of the major duties of the Federal Government...social spending isn't...dbackjon wrote:So basically defense spending contains a great deal of local pork/stimulus/welfare?
You be the judge...
Don't agree with your assessment about pork...dbackjon wrote:I am not saying it is not. But all too often defense spending IS PORK, not needed for the constitutionally required defense commitments.Col Hogan wrote:
You can/will call it what you want...all I know is, defense is listed as one of the major duties of the Federal Government...social spending isn't...
You be the judge...
Unnecessary spending, whether to keep an unneeded base open, to build unwanted weapons, or to overpay private contractors to do work that could be done much cheaper in house is pork/welfare anyway you slice it.
Col Hogan wrote:Yep...now, go read it and tell me how that applies here...houndawg wrote:
Let's see, wasn't there something about standing armies.........
Military spending is social spending.If you twist the defination to meet your needs....I guess...houndawg wrote:Col Hogan wrote:
Yep...now, go read it and tell me how that applies here...
Doesn't take any twisting at all, Colonel. Military doesn't want a system, Congress says you will build it (in my district)- that's social spending. Would you feel better if there was a signing statement?Col Hogan wrote:If you twist the defination to meet your needs....I guess...houndawg wrote:
But, defense spending is a mandate of the Federal Government in the Constitution...
Show me where social spending is...
I didn't argue it isn't defense PORK...houndawg wrote:Doesn't take any twisting at all, Colonel. Military doesn't want a system, Congress says you will build it (in my district)- that's social spending. Would you feel better if there was a signing statement?Col Hogan wrote:
If you twist the defination to meet your needs....I guess...
But, defense spending is a mandate of the Federal Government in the Constitution...
Show me where social spending is...
Then you need to provide your definition of social spending.....Col Hogan wrote:I didn't argue it isn't defense PORK...houndawg wrote:
Doesn't take any twisting at all, Colonel. Military doesn't want a system, Congress says you will build it (in my district)- that's social spending. Would you feel better if there was a signing statement?
But calling it social spending is twisting the defination, any way you look at it...
Transportation is also a federal mandate, but transportation pork is not social spending...
You can twist stuff to match your need if you wish...
houndawg wrote:Then you need to provide your definition of social spending.....Col Hogan wrote:
I didn't argue it isn't defense PORK...
But calling it social spending is twisting the defination, any way you look at it...
Transportation is also a federal mandate, but transportation pork is not social spending...
You can twist stuff to match your need if you wish...
Col Hogan wrote:houndawg wrote:
Then you need to provide your definition of social spending.....
Education, welfare, social security, Medicare, unemployment, just to name a few...
Things not listed as federal responsibilities in the Constitution...
What do you mean. Welfare is mentioned in the opening paragraphUnited States Constitution wrote:We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
And are you saying that what we today call "WELFARE" is what the framers of the Constitution meant when they wrote "promote the general welfare"...is it your arguement that they set us up as a welfare nation???dbackjon wrote:Col Hogan wrote:
Education, welfare, social security, Medicare, unemployment, just to name a few...
Things not listed as federal responsibilities in the Constitution...What do you mean. Welfare is mentioned in the opening paragraphUnited States Constitution wrote:We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.