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A homophobic American cleric who runs a website called God Hates Fags and was allegedly planning to picket a play showing in the UK has been banned from Britain by the home secretary, Jacqui Smith.

Fred Phelps had vowed to come to Britain with his daughter, Shirley, to picket a school play in Basingstoke, Hampshire, that promotes tolerance for gay people. The play, The Laramie Project, depicts the murder of a homosexual teenager, ­Matthew Shepard, in the Wyoming town in 1998. It will be staged tomorrow evening at Queen Mary's College.

Phelps, who runs the Primitive Baptist Westboro church in Topeka, Kansas – most of whose congregation are members of his family, including his 13 children – has bought a plot of land in Laramie where he plans to build a memorial celebrating the murder, despite local opposition.

He and his family cause outrage by picketing the funerals of American personnel killed in Iraq, on the grounds that they were serving the godforsaken US. They wave banners and sometimes trample on the Stars and Stripes to show their contempt for their country. His publicity-seeking behaviour and vehemently expressed views are condemned by all mainstream denominations in the US.

A posting on Phelps's companion website God Hates the World this week stated: "God hates England. Your Queen is a whore. You're going to hell."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/fe ... -us-cleric

It's sad, that like all groups, Christianity has it's nut jobs. This guy, and people of his ilk, do nothing to bring people to the faith, or the teachings of Jesus. This is a shame, this man and his people will have their day. It's clear that he knows nothing of the teachings of Christ. God doesn't hate anyone (or anything). He's teaching a lie, that's the saddest part. SMH

ASUMountaineer wrote:It's sad, that like all groups, Christianity has it's nut jobs. This guy, and people of his ilk, do nothing to bring people to the faith, or the teachings of Jesus. This is a shame, this man and his people will have their day. It's clear that he knows nothing of the teachings of Christ. God doesn't hate anyone (or anything). He's teaching a lie, that's the saddest part. SMH

Very much so - so full of hatred and loathing.

He and his 'church' picketed the church I used to attend a few years ago.

Jesus Christ is keeping Fred Phelps alive so on Judgement Day, he can have him all for himself.

Fred Phelps does more harm to the cause of Christ and doesn't even seem to care. Sad.

It says something that no matter what we disagree on, we can all agree we hate Fred Phelps.

ASUMountaineer wrote:It's sad, that like all groups, Christianity has it's nut jobs. This guy, and people of his ilk, do nothing to bring people to the faith, or the teachings of Jesus. This is a shame, this man and his people will have their day. It's clear that he knows nothing of the teachings of Christ. God doesn't hate anyone (or anything). He's teaching a lie, that's the saddest part. SMH

What "teachings of christ" do you refer to? Christ did not exist.

You personally cannot prove or disprove that. Moving on.

catamount man wrote:You personally cannot prove or disprove that. Moving on.

Yeah and the proof you use is no more sound than what is used to prove Zeus and Thor. You've just been conditioned by centuries of forced indoctrination, fear and intellectual cowardice.

Jesus did not exist. His "teachings" were not original either.

D1B wrote:Jesus did not exist. His "teachings" were not original either.

I just talked to Jesus this morning.

Phelps



kind of reminds me of:

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Henry Kane

D1B wrote:

catamount man wrote:You personally cannot prove or disprove that. Moving on.

Yeah and the proof you use is no more sound than what is used to prove Zeus and Thor. You've just been conditioned by centuries of forced indoctrination, fear and intellectual cowardice.

Jesus did not exist. His "teachings" were not original either.

Didn't know I was that old.

dbackjon wrote:A homophobic American cleric who runs a website called God Hates Fags and was allegedly planning to picket a play showing in the UK has been banned from Britain by the home secretary, Jacqui Smith.

Fred Phelps had vowed to come to Britain with his daughter, Shirley, to picket a school play in Basingstoke, Hampshire, that promotes tolerance for gay people. The play, The Laramie Project, depicts the murder of a homosexual teenager, ­Matthew Shepard, in the Wyoming town in 1998. It will be staged tomorrow evening at Queen Mary's College.

Phelps, who runs the Primitive Baptist Westboro church in Topeka, Kansas – most of whose congregation are members of his family, including his 13 children – has bought a plot of land in Laramie where he plans to build a memorial celebrating the murder, despite local opposition.

He and his family cause outrage by picketing the funerals of American personnel killed in Iraq, on the grounds that they were serving the godforsaken US. They wave banners and sometimes trample on the Stars and Stripes to show their contempt for their country. His publicity-seeking behaviour and vehemently expressed views are condemned by all mainstream denominations in the US.

A posting on Phelps's companion website God Hates the World this week stated: "God hates England. Your Queen is a whore. You're going to hell."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/fe ... -us-cleric

Phelps no doubt is a tool of Satan.

D1B wrote:

ASUMountaineer wrote:It's sad, that like all groups, Christianity has it's nut jobs. This guy, and people of his ilk, do nothing to bring people to the faith, or the teachings of Jesus. This is a shame, this man and his people will have their day. It's clear that he knows nothing of the teachings of Christ. God doesn't hate anyone (or anything). He's teaching a lie, that's the saddest part. SMH

What "teachings of christ" do you refer to? Christ did not exist.

Oh he exists alright, all of us are going to see him very soon, fortunately for some and unfortunately for others , but make no mistake we will see him.

mass fan wrote:

D1B wrote:
What "teachings of christ" do you refer to? Christ did not exist.

Oh he exists alright, all of us are going to see him very soon, fortunately for some and unfortunately for others , but make no mistake we will see him.

No offense Mass, but this is a load of crap. That's great that you believe, but you cannot substantiate squat. Jesus is but one of hundreds of gods that various peoples worship. Just because your old man and Father O'Leary says it's true, doesn't make it so.

Oh and what do you mean by "unfortunately" for others? Is this the load of BS your sunday school teacher beat into you?

Listen, open your eyes. Christianity is a sham. It's a crutch for weak minded people who are afraid to die. At the very least, check out some other religions, if you need that fix. There are many others, infintely better than the christian ruse. Look east my friend and you will find the answer.

D1B wrote:Listen, open your eyes. Christianity is a sham. It's a crutch for weak minded people who are afraid to die. At the very least, check out some other religions, if you need that fix. There are many others, infintely better than the christian ruse. Look east my friend and you will find the answer.

I think they are afraid to go to hell, not afraid to die.

Gil Dobie wrote:

D1B wrote:Listen, open your eyes. Christianity is a sham. It's a crutch for weak minded people who are afraid to die. At the very least, check out some other religions, if you need that fix. There are many others, infintely better than the christian ruse. Look east my friend and you will find the answer.

I think they are afraid to go to hell, not afraid to die.

For some, maybe, and that's really sad. Fear as motivation to send the church all your money. If hell exists, it was created by the christian god.

D1B wrote:For some, maybe, and that's really sad. Fear as motivation to send the church all your money. If hell exists, it was created by the christian god.

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D1B wrote:

mass fan wrote: Oh he exists alright, all of us are going to see him very soon, fortunately for some and unfortunately for others , but make no mistake we will see him.

No offense Mass, but this is a load of crap. That's great that you believe, but you cannot substantiate squat. Jesus is but one of hundreds of gods that various peoples worship. Just because your old man and Father O'Leary says it's true, doesn't make it so.

Oh and what do you mean by "unfortunately" for others? Is this the load of BS your sunday school teacher beat into you?

Listen, open your eyes. Christianity is a sham. It's a crutch for weak minded people who are afraid to die. At the very least, check out some other religions, if you need that fix. There are many others, infintely better than the christian ruse. Look east my friend and you will find the answer.

Your right D1b, it does not matter what I or you believe, He's coming and coming soon, the earth is ripe for the harvest.

Let's assume that Christianity is not a sham for a second. What will one's reaction on Judgement Day who has denied Christ be like then. I just want this one question answered D1B.

Do you feel that Judaism and Islam are shams as well? Just asking. Peace.

mass fan wrote:

D1B wrote:
No offense Mass, but this is a load of crap. That's great that you believe, but you cannot substantiate squat. Jesus is but one of hundreds of gods that various peoples worship. Just because your old man and Father O'Leary says it's true, doesn't make it so.

Oh and what do you mean by "unfortunately" for others? Is this the load of BS your sunday school teacher beat into you?

Listen, open your eyes. Christianity is a sham. It's a crutch for weak minded people who are afraid to die. At the very least, check out some other religions, if you need that fix. There are many others, infintely better than the christian ruse. Look east my friend and you will find the answer.

Your right D1b, it does not matter what I or you believe, He's coming and coming soon, the earth is ripe for the harvest.

All in HIS time my friend. Be patient.

VIVAT JESUS!
DIO VINDICE!

catamount man wrote:Let's assume that Christianity is not a sham for a second. What will one's reaction on Judgement Day who has denied Christ be like then. I just want this one question answered D1B.

Do you feel that Judaism and Islam are shams as well? Just asking. Peace.

Yes, they are shams. The middle east is a prime example of religions true purpose - to maintain status quo and control the masses. We have been able to avoid this because we are free and partially capitalist. One of the great achievments of capitalism is its subjugation of religion. During the last eight years, religion has been able to control the republican party to the detriment of both. Thank god for the youth of america and Barack Obama.

Do your research, jesus is a myth. He is not divine. He had no contemporary eyewitnesses, his miracles are myth, and the crap that written about him, in some case was done hundreds of years after his alleged death.

Judgement day? You've got to be kidding.

Dinosaurs?

D1B wrote:

catamount man wrote:Let's assume that Christianity is not a sham for a second. What will one's reaction on Judgement Day who has denied Christ be like then. I just want this one question answered D1B.

Do you feel that Judaism and Islam are shams as well? Just asking. Peace.

Yes, they are shams. The middle east is a prime example of religions true purpose - to maintain status quo and control the masses. We have been able to avoid this because we are free and partially capitalist. One of the great achievments of capitalism is its subjugation of religion. During the last eight years, religion has been able to control the republican party to the detriment of both. Thank god for the youth of america and Barack Obama.

Do your research, jesus is a myth. He is not divine. He had no contemporary eyewitnesses, his miracles are myth, and the crap that written about him, in some case was done hundreds of years after his alleged death.

Judgement day? You've got to be kidding.

Dinosaurs?

For your sake, and countless others, I wish we were kidding, but for those of us who believe the day can't come soon enough. Romans14 vs 11

mass fan wrote:

D1B wrote:
Yes, they are shams. The middle east is a prime example of religions true purpose - to maintain status quo and control the masses. We have been able to avoid this because we are free and partially capitalist. One of the great achievments of capitalism is its subjugation of religion. During the last eight years, religion has been able to control the republican party to the detriment of both. Thank god for the youth of america and Barack Obama.

Do your research, jesus is a myth. He is not divine. He had no contemporary eyewitnesses, his miracles are myth, and the crap that written about him, in some case was done hundreds of years after his alleged death.

Judgement day? You've got to be kidding.

Dinosaurs?

For your sake, and countless others, I wish we were kidding, but for those of us who believe the day can't come soon enough. Romans14 vs 11

Sad that some people have so little in their lives that they actually look forward to dying, and can't wait for the "destruction" of the Earth. What a load of horse shit.

Romans 14 v 11
It is written:
" 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord,
'every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.'

Which is just Isaiah 45:23 restated

23 By myself I have sworn,
my mouth has uttered in all integrity
a word that will not be revoked:
Before me every knee will bow;
by me every tongue will swear.

St.Paul is only enforcing what the prophet Isaiah was speaking to the Jewish nation, this time to Christians. We will ALL meet Jesus Christ one day face to face.