The Ukraine Crisis

[kalm]

True or False

Vladimir Putin was the first world leader to call President Bush after the 9-11 attack?

True

He basically said … anything you need I’m here for you

Why was Putin trying so hard at diplomacy with the USA?

And when and why did these good relations take a hard turn ?

Hypothetical…you can have Biden as your president or Putin. Who’s it gonna be.

[Caribbean Hen]

When Dubya declined Prigozhin's pivo

pivo


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Please tell more. W recently said he was shocked to learn who was serving diner

A photo shared on Twitter shows Russian President Vladimir Putin (R), his wife Ludmila (2ndR), former US President George W. Bush (2ndL) and his wife Laura attend a dinner, 14 July 2006,

[Caribbean Hen]

September 2005, right after Hurricane Katrina relationship is still good. At least out in the open

2:59 P.M. EDT

PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you all. Please be seated. I'm pleased to welcome my friend, Vladimir Putin, back to the White House. We just had a constructive meeting and a candid conversation. I told the President how much I enjoyed visiting Russia earlier this year, and how much I'm looking forward to going back to Russia for the G8.

[Caribbean Hen]

True or False

Vladimir Putin was the first world leader to call President Bush after the 9-11 attack?

True

He basically said … anything you need I’m here for you

Why was Putin trying so hard at diplomacy with the USA?

And when and why did these good relations take a hard turn ?

Hypothetical…you can have Trump as your president or Putin. Who’s it gonna be.

Trump

how bout you?

[Caribbean Hen]

True or False

Vladimir Putin was the first world leader to call President Bush after the 9-11 attack?

True

He basically said … anything you need I’m here for you

Why was Putin trying so hard at diplomacy with the USA?

And when and why did these good relations take a hard turn ?

Hypothetical…you can have Trump as your president or Putin. Who’s it gonna be.

Trump

how bout you?

[kalm]

Hypothetical…you can have Trump as your president or Putin. Who’s it gonna be.

Trump

how bout you?

Trump. But the move to Canada or Costa Rica would be tempting. Would probably stay though and lead the Cascadia Separatist Movement.

[Caribbean Hen]

Trump

how bout you?

Trump. But the move to Canada or Costa Rica would be tempting. Would probably stay though and lead the Cascadia Separatist Movement.

It’s the word America that scares all you guys

Trump changes slogan to MCGA you’d love him haha

[SeattleGriz]

NY Times being used as a dumping ground.

First the article on how the CIA pretty much integrated itself into Ukrainian intelligence and personnel structure.

Now we find out Ukraine got money, spent it on contracts to build defenses behind Avdiivka, but were never built of any value. Some trenches here and there, but nothing like the Russians built in the same timeframe.

Good job NATO. Way to plan ahead.

The graft in Ukraine has further screwed their troops over.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... 5Knw%3D%3D

[kalm]

Trump. But the move to Canada or Costa Rica would be tempting. Would probably stay though and lead the Cascadia Separatist Movement.

It’s the word America that scares all you guys

Trump changes slogan to MCGA you’d love him haha

Nah. America means different things to different people. I like the America that is competitive but kinder, community driven, more educated and innovative.

[Caribbean Hen]

It’s the word America that scares all you guys

Trump changes slogan to MCGA you’d love him haha

Nah. America means different things to different people. I like the America that is competitive but kinder, community driven, more educated and innovative.

Being kind is admirable but not to the point of government management of the urban “lifestyle” that holds people back from reaching their potential and all for power and votes. In fact, it’s pretty cruel

[Caribbean Hen]

“Ukraine’s pro-Western President Viktor Yushchenko, who came to office in January 2005 in the wake of Orange Revolution protests after beating his Kremlin-backed opponent, has made NATO membership a top priority for his former Soviet nation of 47 million.”

Sorry if this Russia recap is Capt Obvious reporting to all the enlightened ones on here but this looks like the big pivot point …. 19 years ago

https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/co ... 24592.html

[houndawg]

Hypothetical…you can have Trump as your president or Putin. Who’s it gonna be.

Trump

how bout you?

English for "Putin"

[houndawg]

NY Times being used as a dumping ground.

First the article on how the CIA pretty much integrated itself into Ukrainian intelligence and personnel structure.

Now we find out Ukraine got money, spent it on contracts to build defenses behind Avdiivka, but were never built of any value. Some trenches here and there, but nothing like the Russians built in the same timeframe.

Good job NATO. Way to plan ahead.

The graft in Ukraine has further screwed their troops over.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... 5Knw%3D%3D

Such a Debbie Downer...

[SeattleGriz]

NY Times being used as a dumping ground.

First the article on how the CIA pretty much integrated itself into Ukrainian intelligence and personnel structure.

Now we find out Ukraine got money, spent it on contracts to build defenses behind Avdiivka, but were never built of any value. Some trenches here and there, but nothing like the Russians built in the same timeframe.

Good job NATO. Way to plan ahead.

The graft in Ukraine has further screwed their troops over.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... 5Knw%3D%3D

Such a Debbie Downer...

Well, kinda.

[SeattleGriz]

Ding dong, CIDs boss is dead. Piece of shit neocons responsible for the destruction of Ukraine steps down like a rat off a sinking ship.

[kalm]

Ding dong, CIDs boss is dead. Piece of shit neocons responsible for the destruction of Ukraine steps down like a rat off a sinking ship.

Neocons forced Russia to invade. Putin didn’t have a choice!

[SeattleGriz]

Ding dong, CIDs boss is dead. Piece of shit neocons responsible for the destruction of Ukraine steps down like a rat off a sinking ship.

Neocons forced Russia to invade. Putin didn’t have a choice!

No, he was asked by the Donbass for protection, but you keep with that narrative. It was either that, or Ukraine, which had massed at the border, was going to invade the Donbass and kill more of their brethren.

[GannonFan]

Neocons forced Russia to invade. Putin didn’t have a choice!

No, he was asked by the Donbass for protection, but you keep with that narrative. It was either that, or Ukraine, which had massed at the border, was going to invade the Donbass and kill more of their brethren.

Russia and Russian supported units have been in Ukraine, and the Donbass, for at least as long as 2014, if not longer, but you keep with that narrative that they're just there for "protection".

[Skjellyfetti]

Even Putin in his 2.5 hour monologue with Tucker didn't claim that as the reason for the invasion.

[UNI88]

No, he was asked by the Donbass for protection, but you keep with that narrative. It was either that, or Ukraine, which had massed at the border, was going to invade the Donbass and kill more of their brethren.

Russia and Russian supported units have been in Ukraine, and the Donbass, for at least as long as 2014, if not longer, but you keep with that narrative that they're just there for "protection".

I was curious about the "Ukraine, which had massed at the border, was going to invade the Donbas and kill more of their brethren" comment. Ukraine was massed at what border? Donbas is part of Ukraine so massing at the Donbas border would be like US troops massing at the Louisiana border. Would the US be "going to invade" Louisiana?

russia doesn't have carte blanche to invade countries where russian speakers are threatened.

[UNI88]

Ding dong, CIDs boss is dead. Piece of shit neocons responsible for the destruction of Ukraine steps down like a rat off a sinking ship.

The guy who works at Boeing probably shouldn't be taking these kinds of shots at someone.

[kalm]

Ding dong, CIDs boss is dead. Piece of shit neocons responsible for the destruction of Ukraine steps down like a rat off a sinking ship.

The guy who works at Boeing probably shouldn't be taking these kinds of shots at someone.

Ha!

[Caribbean Hen]

Even Putin in his 2.5 hour monologue with Tucker didn't claim that as the reason for the invasion.

Intel agencies learned some things about Putin, it’s not like anyone from the west has seen him up close like that since when?

Note how Vladimir had his right arm strapped to the chair. Probably didn’t want the world to see him trembling in fear as Tucker was asking questions…
Cerebral Palsy?

Trump gives Dems best chance of dealing with Putin but ironically, Dems TDS won’t allow them to see it as TDS causes blindness and selfishness…. My hurt feelings over country

[Caribbean Hen]

Tucker post Putin interview commented he thought Putin seemed nervous at the beginning of the interview, like an over prepared college student…. And then he went into his long Russian history speech

Very similar to the way the Brits described him from over 20 years ago

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/17 ... ir-spt/amp



“He would go into a long, very emotional, slightly angry monologue in order to cut off the stuff that he didn't want to answer.”

The following month Putin made the reverse trip, travelling to London to meet with Sir Tony. The visit also included an invitation to visit Queen Elizabeth II at Buckingham Palace.

A joint press conference between the two leaders was set up, in which Putin launched into a "rambling rant" about Chechnya after a journalist asked a question about the war.

[BDKJMU]

Ding dong, CIDs boss is dead. Piece of shit neocons responsible for the destruction of Ukraine steps down like a rat off a sinking ship.

Yep.