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RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:16 pm
by dbackjon
When Asked Whether He Would ‘Consider’ Gay Civil Unions, Steele Replies, ‘What Are You, Crazy?’
When Asked Whether He Would ‘Consider’ Gay Civil Unions, Steele Replies, ‘What Are You, Crazy?’
Last night, actor Sean Penn and screenwriter Dustin Lance Black both won Oscars for their work on “Milk,” which told the story of Harvey Milk, the first openly gay elected official. Today, the right wing expressed its disgust that the movie received such acclamation. On his radio show, Mike Gallagher slammed Penn for ignoring “the majority of Americans” by supporting gay marriage rights, saying it went against America’s “fundamental values.”
Gallagher asked guest Michael Steele, chairman of the Republican Party, if he thought the party “ought to consider” something like civil unions. Steele replied immediately, “No, no, no,” adding, “What are you, crazy?” He made it clear that the party would not budge on gay rights:
GALLAGHER: Is this a time when Republicans ought to consider some sort of alternative to redefining marriage and maybe in the road, down the road to civil unions. Do you favor civil unions?
STEELE: No, no no. What would we do that for? What are you, crazy? No. Why would we backslide on a core, founding value of this country? I mean this isn’t something that you just kind of like, “Oh well, today I feel, you know, loosey-goosey on marriage.” […]
GALLAGHER: So no room even for a conversation about civil unions in your mind?
STEELE: What’s the difference?
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/23/ste ... il-unions/
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:17 pm
by dbackjon
See, even black Republicans can be ape-shit bigots.
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:46 pm
by HI54UNI
How could a black man be so f'ing ignorant to say something like that?

SMFH
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:02 am
by D1B
HI54UNI wrote:How could a black man be so f'ing ignorant to say something like that?

SMFH
Machismo is a prominently exhibited or excessive masculinity. As an attitude, machismo ranges from a personal sense of virility to a more extreme male chauvinism. In many cultures, machismo is acceptable and even expected.
Black men, with some exception are complete fukcs. They hate women and their children and gays and are proud of it.
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:40 am
by HI54UNI
D1B wrote:HI54UNI wrote:How could a black man be so f'ing ignorant to say something like that?

SMFH
Machismo is a prominently exhibited or excessive masculinity. As an attitude, machismo ranges from a personal sense of virility to a more extreme male chauvinism. In many cultures, machismo is acceptable and even expected.
Black men, with some exception are complete fukcs. They hate women and their children and gays and are proud of it.
Very true. But you would think a person that has achieved his status and has probably overcome some discrimination in his life might be a little more enlightened.
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:30 am
by Appaholic
On the bright side, this continued belief system just marginalizes the Republican party that much more and will hopefully open the door to a party that is fiscally conservative yet, while not openly endorsing all things progressive, doesn't believe in legislating or restricting those same ideas....Republican Party is dying a slow death....
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:53 am
by ASUMountaineer
Just more proof it's the government that's limiting your rights Jon.
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:55 am
by Appaholic
ASUMountaineer wrote:Just more proof it's the government that's limiting your rights Jon.
No sh!t.....government is a fokking joke....

Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:37 am
by Gil Dobie
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:57 am
by OL FU
D1B wrote:HI54UNI wrote:How could a black man be so f'ing ignorant to say something like that?

SMFH
Black men, with some exception are complete fukcs. They hate women and their children and gays and are proud of it.
I guess your comment shows that white men know everything

Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:58 am
by OL FU
Didn't I read another thread where Steele said that republicans need to pursue gay and lesbian support

Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:59 am
by dbackjon
OL FU wrote:Didn't I read another thread where Steele said that republicans need to pursue gay and lesbian support

yup - and that is brought up in the link...
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:04 am
by OL FU
dbackjon wrote:OL FU wrote:Didn't I read another thread where Steele said that republicans need to pursue gay and lesbian support

yup - and that is brought up in the link...
Well I suppose it depends on to whom he is speaking

Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:11 am
by D1B
OL FU wrote:D1B wrote:
Black men, with some exception are complete fukcs. They hate women and their children and gays and are proud of it.
I guess your comment shows that white men know everything

White men are fukced too. They just happen to be better providers for their children and don't generally treat women like shit.
White men don't have an exuse either. Black men have been emasculated for hundreds of years. Machismo is a natural, but wrong reaction to their plight. They are dragging down their culture with them.
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:45 am
by OL FU
D1B wrote:OL FU wrote:
I guess your comment shows that white men know everything

White men are fukced too. They just happen to be better providers for their children and don't generally treat women like shit.
White men don't have an exuse either. Black men have been emasculated for hundreds of years. Machismo is a natural, but wrong reaction to their plight. They are dragging down their culture with them.
Do you take a grumpy pill when you wake up in the morning

Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:49 am
by D1B
OL FU wrote:D1B wrote:
White men are fukced too. They just happen to be better providers for their children and don't generally treat women like shit.
White men don't have an exuse either. Black men have been emasculated for hundreds of years. Machismo is a natural, but wrong reaction to their plight. They are dragging down their culture with them.
Do you take a grumpy pill when you wake up in the morning

No, I'm a natural asshole.

Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:53 am
by OL FU
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:56 am
by clenz
This is why I am no longer a Republican. I used to be against it, but as I have grown I have come to realize that if two dudes or two chicks want to be together, hell why not? I'm still rather conservative on some issues, but I have become more moderate on some.
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:25 pm
by Appaholic
clenz wrote:This is why I am no longer a Republican. I used to be against it, but as I have grown I have come to realize that if two dudes or two chicks want to be together, hell why not? I'm still rather conservative on some issues, but I have become more moderate on some.
That's actually a very "conservative" attitude....live and let live.....it's the "Conservatives" that have hijacked that description to mean regulation of lifestyle....welcome back to our side....
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:50 pm
by blueballs
When I first gave the issue thought I asked myself, "How would I going to explain to my wife's best friend, who was Maid of Honor in my wedding and is a dear friend of mine as well, how I could oppose dower rights for her and her life partner of 27 years when everything they own is joint and they desire to spend the rest of their lives and even be buried together?"
It wouldn't be the right thing to do and neither is Steele's stance. This may very well come back to bite him in the ass.
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:56 pm
by dbackjon
blueballs wrote:When I first gave the issue thought I asked myself, "How would I going to explain to my wife's best friend, who was Maid of Honor in my wedding and is a dear friend of mine as well, how I could oppose dower rights for her and her life partner of 27 years when everything they own is joint and they desire to spend the rest of their lives and even be buried together?"
It wouldn't be the right thing to do and neither is Steele's stance. This may very well come back to bite him in the ass.
When most people put a personal connection to it, they come to the conclusion that you did.
Very good!
Re: RNC Chairman Steele: Gay Civil Unions NEVER
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:14 pm
by ASUMountaineer
Most gay people I've discussed the issue agree that the government shouldn't be involved in anyone's marriage. It's big government keeping gays from marrying...Steele is just another leftist "conservative."