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We dont have the balls to play with these guys, we wont do what it takes to win so why is BrObama so happy to kill more of our soldiers? Why wont he bring them home like he said he would? Is this just another political lie to gain approval? He lied and soldiers died!

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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:We dont have the balls to play with these guys, we wont do what it takes to win so why is BrObama so happy to kill more of our soldiers? Why wont he bring them home like he said he would? Is this just another political lie to gain approval? He lied and soldiers died!

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I'm sure this is somehow Bush's fault. Right, dback?

The longer the war the higher the profits.

Until the day Americans boycott our politicians, and the rigged voting process in general, this same old same old of big government and their pet projects i.e. the military industrial complex, the police state, etc, will continue and we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

Ibanez wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:We dont have the balls to play with these guys, we wont do what it takes to win so why is BrObama so happy to kill more of our soldiers? Why wont he bring them home like he said he would? Is this just another political lie to gain approval? He lied and soldiers died!

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I'm sure this is somehow Bush's fault. Right, dback?

Anyone with a lick of common sense understands that if Bush/Cheney/Rummy hadn't lied about WMD and the non-threat that Saddam posed to the United States, then this mess wouldn't be happening.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's dead. Thousands of American GI's dead. Tens of thousands of American GI's permanently disabled. Trillions of dollars wasted. And for what? Bush to get revenge? Cheney to make millions?

It is a travesty that these treasonous bastards still walk free - they should be arrested and tried for war crimes and treason.


And it is also very sad that people are too stupid or just trying to make points to realize this.

Why would we go to war against a JV team?

dbackjon wrote:Anyone with a lick of common sense understands that if Bush/Cheney/Rummy hadn't lied about WMD and the non-threat that Saddam posed to the United States, then this mess wouldn't be happening.

So you'd be excluded from that because your bias keeps you from using a lick of common sense.

dbackjon wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

I'm sure this is somehow Bush's fault. Right, dback?

Anyone with a lick of common sense understands that if Bush/Cheney/Rummy hadn't lied about WMD and the non-threat that Saddam posed to the United States, then this mess wouldn't be happening.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's dead. Thousands of American GI's dead. Tens of thousands of American GI's permanently disabled. Trillions of dollars wasted. And for what? Bush to get revenge? Cheney to make millions?

It is a travesty that these treasonous bastards still walk free - they should be arrested and tried for war crimes and treason.


And it is also very sad that people are too stupid or just trying to make points to realize this.

They along with all the Dems that agreed with the intelligence along with Bill Clinton (who numerous times referred to the WMD's that Iraq possessed during his presidency) along with BHO the "drone king" can all share a cell. It's going to be crowded.

dbackjon wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

I'm sure this is somehow Bush's fault. Right, dback?

Anyone with a lick of common sense understands that if Bush/Cheney/Rummy hadn't lied about WMD and the non-threat that Saddam posed to the United States, then this mess wouldn't be happening.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's dead. Thousands of American GI's dead. Tens of thousands of American GI's permanently disabled. Trillions of dollars wasted. And for what? Bush to get revenge? Cheney to make millions?

It is a travesty that these treasonous bastards still walk free - they should be arrested and tried for war crimes and treason.


And it is also very sad that people are too stupid or just trying to make points to realize this.

Oh help me Rhonda! Obama is in charge, not Bush. Troops withdrew from the country between 2009-2011 under a timeline set by G Dubbs. Anything from 2011 on is Obama's war. Realize that.

dbackjon wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

I'm sure this is somehow Bush's fault. Right, dback?

Anyone with a lick of common sense understands that if Bush/Cheney/Rummy hadn't lied about WMD and the non-threat that Saddam posed to the United States, then this mess wouldn't be happening.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's dead. Thousands of American GI's dead. Tens of thousands of American GI's permanently disabled. Trillions of dollars wasted. And for what? Bush to get revenge? Cheney to make millions?

It is a travesty that these treasonous bastards still walk free - they should be arrested and tried for war crimes and treason.


And it is also very sad that people are too stupid or just trying to make points to realize this.

I find it odd you forget all the democrats that voted for war.


Just kidding. I totally understand why you won't admit a democrat did something you don't approve of.

We're 2 months into our intervention in Iraq. We've had 1 American soldier wounded, 2 civilians beheaded and 100+ Iraqi casualties. Thanks Obama.

dbackjon wrote:

Ibanez wrote:

I'm sure this is somehow Bush's fault. Right, dback?

Anyone with a lick of common sense understands that if Bush/Cheney/Rummy hadn't lied about WMD and the non-threat that Saddam posed to the United States, then this mess wouldn't be happening.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's dead. Thousands of American GI's dead. Tens of thousands of American GI's permanently disabled. Trillions of dollars wasted. And for what? Bush to get revenge? Cheney to make millions?

It is a travesty that these treasonous bastards still walk free - they should be arrested and tried for war crimes and treason.


And it is also very sad that people are too stupid or just trying to make points to realize this.

Anyone with a lick of common sense would understand that if Roosevelt hadn't agreed to the establishment of the Israeli State in the middle of camel jockeydom, there wouldn't BE issues there and NONE of this woudl have happened. It is a travesty that that treasonous bastard was allowed to walk free...he should have been arrested and tried for war crimes and treason. And it is also very sad that people are too stupid or just trying to make points to realize this.

AZGrizFan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:


Anyone with a lick of common sense understands that if Bush/Cheney/Rummy hadn't lied about WMD and the non-threat that Saddam posed to the United States, then this mess wouldn't be happening.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's dead. Thousands of American GI's dead. Tens of thousands of American GI's permanently disabled. Trillions of dollars wasted. And for what? Bush to get revenge? Cheney to make millions?

It is a travesty that these treasonous bastards still walk free - they should be arrested and tried for war crimes and treason.


And it is also very sad that people are too stupid or just trying to make points to realize this.

Anyone with a lick of common sense would understand that if Roosevelt hadn't agreed to the establishment of the Israeli State in the middle of camel jockeydom, there wouldn't BE issues there and NONE of this woudl have happened. It is a travesty that that treasonous bastard was allowed to walk free...he should have been arrested and tried for war crimes and treason. And it is also very sad that people are too stupid or just trying to make points to realize this.

I blame Woodrow Wilson and everyone that signed the Treaty of Versailles.

Ibanez wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
Anyone with a lick of common sense would understand that if Roosevelt hadn't agreed to the establishment of the Israeli State in the middle of camel jockeydom, there wouldn't BE issues there and NONE of this woudl have happened. It is a travesty that that treasonous bastard was allowed to walk free...he should have been arrested and tried for war crimes and treason. And it is also very sad that people are too stupid or just trying to make points to realize this.

I blame Woodrow Wilson and everyone that signed the Treaty of Versailles.

Hey let's not let Teddy off the hook either. That whole worldwide tour of "The Great White Fleet" was pretty much screaming interventionism and involvement anywhere and everywhere. Rough Rider indeed.

Oh, and McKinley shares the blame as well for the blatant provocative war he waged on poor little Spain at the turn of the century. Almost Putinesque in substance, plus he basically got the ball rolling on Guantanamo.

houndawg wrote:The longer the war the higher the profits.

I love the nebulous generalizations from you guys on this kind of thing.


During Bush you guys were frothing at the mouth about how Bushitler McCheneyburton personally cooked the books and led his evil crusade into Iraq


Now it's all "ho hum, the longer the war the higher the profits yawn"


You come a long way, baby

Ibanez wrote:

dbackjon wrote:


Anyone with a lick of common sense understands that if Bush/Cheney/Rummy hadn't lied about WMD and the non-threat that Saddam posed to the United States, then this mess wouldn't be happening.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's dead. Thousands of American GI's dead. Tens of thousands of American GI's permanently disabled. Trillions of dollars wasted. And for what? Bush to get revenge? Cheney to make millions?

It is a travesty that these treasonous bastards still walk free - they should be arrested and tried for war crimes and treason.


And it is also very sad that people are too stupid or just trying to make points to realize this.

Oh help me Rhonda! Obama is in charge, not Bush. Troops withdrew from the country between 2009-2011 under a timeline set by G Dubbs. Anything from 2011 on is Obama's war. Realize that.

Are you clueless, or just ignorant??

Ibanez wrote:

dbackjon wrote:


Anyone with a lick of common sense understands that if Bush/Cheney/Rummy hadn't lied about WMD and the non-threat that Saddam posed to the United States, then this mess wouldn't be happening.

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's dead. Thousands of American GI's dead. Tens of thousands of American GI's permanently disabled. Trillions of dollars wasted. And for what? Bush to get revenge? Cheney to make millions?

It is a travesty that these treasonous bastards still walk free - they should be arrested and tried for war crimes and treason.


And it is also very sad that people are too stupid or just trying to make points to realize this.

I find it odd you forget all the democrats that voted for war.


Just kidding. I totally understand why you won't admit a democrat did something you don't approve of.

There are plenty of Democrats I don't approve of - like Diane Feinstein.

What you are forgetting, or refuse to acknowledge is that the vote to authorize force was based on lies told by the Bush Admin - had they told the truth, a majority of Democrats would NOT have voted to authorize force.

dbackjon wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I find it odd you forget all the democrats that voted for war.


Just kidding. I totally understand why you won't admit a democrat did something you don't approve of.

There are plenty of Democrats I don't approve of - like Diane Feinstein.

What you are forgetting, or refuse to acknowledge is that the vote to authorize force was based on lies told by the Bush Admin - had they told the truth, a majority of Democrats would NOT have voted to authorize force.

The decision in '01 was based on bad intel from a prior administration. It's was Clinton's fault.
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dbackjon wrote:What you are forgetting, or refuse to acknowledge is that the vote to authorize force was based on lies told by the Bush Admin - had they told the truth, a majority of Democrats would NOT have voted to authorize force.

Are you fishing here Jon. Surely even you know that's a ridiculous comment.

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dbackjon wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Oh help me Rhonda! Obama is in charge, not Bush. Troops withdrew from the country between 2009-2011 under a timeline set by G Dubbs. Anything from 2011 on is Obama's war. Realize that.

Are you clueless, or just ignorant??

Clignorant

dbackjon wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Oh help me Rhonda! Obama is in charge, not Bush. Troops withdrew from the country between 2009-2011 under a timeline set by G Dubbs. Anything from 2011 on is Obama's war. Realize that.

Are you clueless, or just ignorant??

Neither. I'm not a partisan hack like you. I get what you're trying to say, but it's asinine.

dbackjon wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
I find it odd you forget all the democrats that voted for war.


Just kidding. I totally understand why you won't admit a democrat did something you don't approve of.

There are plenty of Democrats I don't approve of - like Diane Feinstein.

What you are forgetting, or refuse to acknowledge is that the vote to authorize force was based on lies told by the Bush Admin - had they told the truth, a majority of Democrats would NOT have voted to authorize force.

. Are you shitting me? Deal with facts. THEY VOTED! God damn.

LMAO at the ignorance displayed by others on this thread. :smh:

dbackjon wrote:LMAO at the ignorance displayed by others on this thread. :smh:

Definitely trolling. You can't possibly believe what you posted.

dbackjon wrote:LMAO at the ignorance displayed by others on this thread. :smh:

What'd you pay for your high horse?