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These slant-eyed folks are less likely to be killed by police or incarcerated than white folks.

We need to have a national conversation about this obvious collective racism by law enforcement.

Discuss.

Flaggy, where are you? You're the expert here....you and CID1990...

That explains it. By the way, they also have a higher median income than Whites do. Another one of those inconvenient facts about Asians that kind of call into question all the stuff about problems of certain other ethnic groups, how White privilege means other races can't compete, cultural bias being the reason non Whites don't do well on IQ tests, (you know, friggin' Vietnamese refugees could come here during the 1970s from terribly deprived conditions, hardly being able to speak English and obviously from a very different culture yet score lights out on IQ tests but cultural bias is why certain other groups can't do that) etc.

Of course egalitarianism demands that the success of Asians be rationalized in some way and so it is.

JohnStOnge wrote:

That explains it. By the way, they also have a higher median income than Whites do. Another one of those inconvenient facts about Asians that kind of call into question all the stuff about problems of certain other ethnic groups, how White privilege means other races can't compete, cultural bias being the reason non Whites don't do well on IQ tests, (you know, friggin' Vietnamese refugees could come here during the 1970s from terribly deprived conditions, hardly being able to speak English and obviously from a very different culture yet score lights out on IQ tests but cultural bias is why certain other groups can't do that) etc.

Of course egalitarianism demands that the success of Asians be rationalized in some way and so it is.

Wait…so you're saying economics has an affect (effect?) on success?

Wait…so you're saying economics has an affect (effect?) on success?

No. I'm basically saying ability has an effect on economics. There's this movement that attempts to explain all the problems of certain ethnic groups by saying that Whites have this big advantage. White privilege when it comes to economics. Cultural bias when it comes to IQ tests, etc.

And Asians are a problem for those arguments. Asian immigrants can come here and immediately succeed. They can speak only broken English and be associated with a very different culture yet score very well on IQ tests and other aptitude tests. When the "White Privilege" movement says the reason certain groups can't succeed is that Whites have this "White Privilege" advantage they have a median household income that's 15 percent higher than that of Whites.

You know, there is an association between IQ and income. You know, Asians have a high average IQ. And, SHAZAM, Asians in the United States have a higher median household income than Whites do.

The point is that Asians pretty much put the lie to a lot of the egalitarian excuse crap that comprises the "conventional wisdom" on ethnicity in this country.

JohnStOnge wrote:

Wait…so you're saying economics has an affect (effect?) on success?

No. I'm basically saying ability has an effect on economics. There's this movement that attempts to explain all the problems of certain ethnic groups by saying that Whites have this big advantage. White privilege when it comes to economics. Cultural bias when it comes to IQ tests, etc.

And Asians are a problem for those arguments. Asian immigrants can come here and immediately succeed. They can speak only broken English and be associated with a very different culture yet score very well on IQ tests and other aptitude tests. When the "White Privilege" movement says the reason certain groups can't succeed is that Whites have this "White Privilege" advantage they have a median household income that's 15 percent higher than that of Whites.

You know, there is an association between IQ and income. You know, Asians have a high average IQ. And, SHAZAM, Asians in the United States have a higher median household income than Whites do.

The point is that Asians pretty much put the lie to a lot of the egalitarian excuse crap that comprises the "conventional wisdom" on ethnicity in this country.

Privelege is one of many factors. Ignore it if you must.

Privelege is one of many factors. Ignore it if you must.

The point is that the success of Asians make it obvious that, to the extent that "White Privilege" is a factor, it's not nearly sufficient to explain what goes on with certain other ethnic groups. Asians pretty much prove that it's possible to succeed in this society to an extent at least equal to that of Whites if you have the ability to do so.

They pretty much show that you don't have to be White i order to have high odds of success.

JohnStOnge wrote:

Privelege is one of many factors. Ignore it if you must.

The point is that the success of Asians make it obvious that, to the extent that "White Privilege" is a factor, it's not nearly sufficient to explain what goes on with certain other ethnic groups. Asians pretty much prove that it's possible to succeed in this society to an extent at least equal to that of Whites if you have the ability to do so.

They pretty much show that you don't have to be White i order to have high odds of success.

Their experience is different than AA's. Lots of factors which you choose to ignore.

JohnStOnge wrote:

Privelege is one of many factors. Ignore it if you must.

The point is that the success of Asians make it obvious that, to the extent that "White Privilege" is a factor, it's not nearly sufficient to explain what goes on with certain other ethnic groups. Asians pretty much prove that it's possible to succeed in this society to an extent at least equal to that of Whites if you have the ability to do so.

They pretty much show that you don't have to be White i order to have high odds of success.

Apples and Oranges, Dingleberry. Try cracking open a history book.

Asians work harder to succeed, their culture lays the groundwork for success .
Given the true poverty that many Asian immigrants have lived, America truly is a "land of opportunity"

Herd wrote:Asians work harder to succeed, their culture lays the groundwork for success .
Given the true poverty that many Asian immigrants have lived, America truly is a "land of opportunity"

Exactly. They have not had to endure the brutality, racism and inhumane treatment blacks in America are still subjected to.

D1B wrote:

Herd wrote:Asians work harder to succeed, their culture lays the groundwork for success .
Given the true poverty that many Asian immigrants have lived, America truly is a "land of opportunity"

Exactly. They have not had to endure the brutality, racism and inhumane treatment blacks in America are still subjected to.

Agreed. They were never subject to poor working conditions or had to endure the brunt of hard manual labor anywhere throughout American history.

SDHornet wrote:

D1B wrote:
Exactly. They have not had to endure the brutality, racism and inhumane treatment blacks in America are still subjected to.

Agreed. They were never subject to poor working conditions or had to endure the brunt of hard manual labor anywhere throughout American history.

Another conk dumbass. SMFH.

The African/Black situation in America was and is way worse, fuck head. Continues to this day thanks to people like you.

D1B wrote:

SDHornet wrote: Agreed. They were never subject to poor working conditions or had to endure the brunt of hard manual labor anywhere throughout American history.

Another conk dumbass. SMFH.

The African/Black situation in America was and is way worse, fuck head. Continues to this day thanks to people like you.

Wrong. I'm a registered Donk, I can do no wrong.

SDHornet wrote:

D1B wrote:
Another conk dumbass. SMFH.

The African/Black situation in America was and is way worse, fuck head. Continues to this day thanks to people like you.

Wrong. I'm a registered Donk, I can do no wrong.

You're a registered blockhead.

D1B wrote:

SDHornet wrote: Wrong. I'm a registered Donk, I can do no wrong.

You're a registered blockhead.

Wrong again.

SDHornet wrote:

D1B wrote:
You're a registered blockhead.

Wrong again.

Quit harassing me or I'll report you to Ralph.

D1B wrote:

Herd wrote:Asians work harder to succeed, their culture lays the groundwork for success .
Given the true poverty that many Asian immigrants have lived, America truly is a "land of opportunity"

Exactly. They have not had to endure the brutality, racism and inhumane treatment blacks in America are still subjected to.

You might want to go over to Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, southern Thailand, and about 85% of China and take a look, D. Maybe even talk to some of the people there.

Asians are some of the most racist people on the earth towards each other. The Chinese and the Japanese think each other are inferior, and the Koreans have their own hang ups. They all look down on the SE Asians, and over history they have acted on thes prejudices in ways much more barbaric than anything done to blacks on such a scale in the US. The Japanese alone starved over one million Vietnamese to death in just a 3 year period during WWII. The Chinese Cultural Revolution (a class and ethnic war at its root) killed more Chinese than any estimate of US blacks killed as a result of official discrimination in our own history. Starvation by neglect is the number one national sport in Asian history and it has killed more Asians than the entire population of blacks that have ever lived in North America.

To this day, the Vietnamese government has an offcial policy of mistreatment towards Khmer minorities in the south, and Hmong Montagnard minorities in the highlands. These people have no rights, and live in the most squalid conditions imaginable.

IN all of these cases, this mistreatment is justified through the old Confucian paternalistic culture of face, and it has been that way for literally thousands of years, thousands of years before the first sub-Saharan African ever even SAW a white man. Racist nomenclature is perfectly acceptable in most Asian cultures. "Gaijin" is the Japanese word for barbarian, and the literal meaning is "Not Japanese". The Chinese have it in "yi" meaning wild outsiders, to differentiate between the ethnic Han and Chinese minorities. The Vietnamese brought the same culture with them when they split off from China a couple thousand years ago and you could fill a whole dictionary of Vietnamese words that describe the superiority of the ethnic Viets over the Hmaong, Khmer, and maritime SE Asian minority cultures.

Blacks in America have had it bad- there's no doubt about that. But it would probably be best to avoid trying to compare their condition to the conditions of other minorities in what makes up about 85% of the rest of the world. Asians are an especially bad example to use when trying to describe how badly Africans have had it.

Asians stick together, watch after each other, and self police. While the rest of us are belly aching about how unfair things are they keep their heads down and move right past us.

CID1990 wrote:

D1B wrote:
Exactly. They have not had to endure the brutality, racism and inhumane treatment blacks in America are still subjected to.

You might want to go over to Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, southern Thailand, and about 85% of China and take a look, D. Maybe even talk to some of the people there.

Asians are some of the most racist people on the earth towards each other. The Chinese and the Japanese think each other are inferior, and the Koreans have their own hang ups. They all look down on the SE Asians, and over history they have acted on thes prejudices in ways much more barbaric than anything done to blacks on such a scale in the US. The Japanese alone starved over one million Vietnamese to death in just a 3 year period during WWII. The Chinese Cultural Revolution (a class and ethnic war at its root) killed more Chinese than any estimate of US blacks killed as a result of official discrimination in our own history. Starvation by neglect is the number one national sport in Asian history and it has killed more Asians than the entire population of blacks that have ever lived in North America.

To this day, the Vietnamese government has an offcial policy of mistreatment towards Khmer minorities in the south, and Hmong Montagnard minorities in the highlands. These people have no rights, and live in the most squalid conditions imaginable.

IN all of these cases, this mistreatment is justified through the old Confucian paternalistic culture of face, and it has been that way for literally thousands of years, thousands of years before the first sub-Saharan African ever even SAW a white man. Racist nomenclature is perfectly acceptable in most Asian cultures. "Gaijin" is the Japanese word for barbarian, and the literal meaning is "Not Japanese". The Chinese have it in "yi" meaning wild outsiders, to differentiate between the ethnic Han and Chinese minorities. The Vietnamese brought the same culture with them when they split off from China a couple thousand years ago and you could fill a whole dictionary of Vietnamese words that describe the superiority of the ethnic Viets over the Hmaong, Khmer, and maritime SE Asian minority cultures.

Blacks in America have had it bad- there's no doubt about that. But it would probably be best to avoid trying to compare their condition to the conditions of other minorities in what makes up about 85% of the rest of the world. Asians are an especially bad example to use when trying to describe how badly Africans have had it.

D1B slinks quietly off into the corner...

Cluck U wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
You might want to go over to Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, southern Thailand, and about 85% of China and take a look, D. Maybe even talk to some of the people there.

Asians are some of the most racist people on the earth towards each other. The Chinese and the Japanese think each other are inferior, and the Koreans have their own hang ups. They all look down on the SE Asians, and over history they have acted on thes prejudices in ways much more barbaric than anything done to blacks on such a scale in the US. The Japanese alone starved over one million Vietnamese to death in just a 3 year period during WWII. The Chinese Cultural Revolution (a class and ethnic war at its root) killed more Chinese than any estimate of US blacks killed as a result of official discrimination in our own history. Starvation by neglect is the number one national sport in Asian history and it has killed more Asians than the entire population of blacks that have ever lived in North America.

To this day, the Vietnamese government has an offcial policy of mistreatment towards Khmer minorities in the south, and Hmong Montagnard minorities in the highlands. These people have no rights, and live in the most squalid conditions imaginable.

IN all of these cases, this mistreatment is justified through the old Confucian paternalistic culture of face, and it has been that way for literally thousands of years, thousands of years before the first sub-Saharan African ever even SAW a white man. Racist nomenclature is perfectly acceptable in most Asian cultures. "Gaijin" is the Japanese word for barbarian, and the literal meaning is "Not Japanese". The Chinese have it in "yi" meaning wild outsiders, to differentiate between the ethnic Han and Chinese minorities. The Vietnamese brought the same culture with them when they split off from China a couple thousand years ago and you could fill a whole dictionary of Vietnamese words that describe the superiority of the ethnic Viets over the Hmaong, Khmer, and maritime SE Asian minority cultures.

Blacks in America have had it bad- there's no doubt about that. But it would probably be best to avoid trying to compare their condition to the conditions of other minorities in what makes up about 85% of the rest of the world. Asians are an especially bad example to use when trying to describe how badly Africans have had it.

D1B slinks quietly off into the corner...

Clearly CID is fresh off watching Grand Torino.

I know from personal experience that many first gen Koreans are extremely racist and reject assimilation. They are married to their businesses to the nth degree, never taking vacations or time off.

Success!

kalm wrote:I know from personal experience that many first gen Koreans are extremely racist and reject assimilation. They are married to their businesses to the nth degree, never taking vacations or time off.

Success!

And by the second and third generations their kids are playing on their i-touches and look an act like every other typical American kid. First generations of typically any racial or ethnic group are vastly different than their assimilated future generations.