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Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:47 pm
by travelinman67
Flashback: Carville Wanted Bush to Fail
The press never reported that Democratic strategist James Carville said he wanted President Bush to fail before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But a feeding frenzy ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail.
By Bill Sammon
FOXNews.com
Wednesday, March 11, 2009
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03 ... bush-fail/
On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: "I certainly hope he doesn't succeed."
Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president.
"We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I'm wanting them to turn against him," Greenberg admitted.
The pollster added with a chuckle of disbelief: "They don't want him to fail. I mean, they think it matters if the president of the United States fails."
Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!"
The press followed Carville's orders, never reporting his or Greenberg's desire for Bush to fail. The omission was understandable at first, as reporters were consumed with chronicling the new war on terror. But months and even years later, the mainstream media chose to never resurrect those controversial sentiments, voiced by the Democratic Party's top strategists, that Bush should fail.
That omission stands in stark contrast to the feeding frenzy that ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail. The press devoted wall-to-wall coverage to the remark, suggesting that Limbaugh and, by extension, conservative Republicans, were unpatriotic.
"The most influential Republican in the United States today, Mr. Rush Limbaugh, said he did not want President Obama to succeed," Carville railed on CNN recently. "He is the daddy of this Republican Congress."
Doesn't matter to me...
...just saying, the next time some whiney Donk here tries to play the (said with whiney little girl voice), "But Rush want's Obama to fail...." (or, as some jackass on here yesterday attempted to attribute that statement to me...), be prepared for a verbal bitch slapping.
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:56 pm
by Gil Dobie
Being a Donk means never having to say you are sorry.

Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:58 pm
by houndawg
travelinman67 wrote:Flashback: Carville Wanted Bush to Fail
The press never reported that Democratic strategist James Carville said he wanted President Bush to fail before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But a feeding frenzy ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail.
By Bill Sammon
FOXNews.com
Wednesday, March 11, 2009
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03 ... bush-fail/
On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: "I certainly hope he doesn't succeed."
Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president.
"We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I'm wanting them to turn against him," Greenberg admitted.
The pollster added with a chuckle of disbelief: "They don't want him to fail. I mean, they think it matters if the president of the United States fails."
Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!"
The press followed Carville's orders, never reporting his or Greenberg's desire for Bush to fail. The omission was understandable at first, as reporters were consumed with chronicling the new war on terror. But months and even years later, the mainstream media chose to never resurrect those controversial sentiments, voiced by the Democratic Party's top strategists, that Bush should fail.
That omission stands in stark contrast to the feeding frenzy that ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail. The press devoted wall-to-wall coverage to the remark, suggesting that Limbaugh and, by extension, conservative Republicans, were unpatriotic.
"The most influential Republican in the United States today, Mr. Rush Limbaugh, said he did not want President Obama to succeed," Carville railed on CNN recently. "He is the daddy of this Republican Congress."
Doesn't matter to me...
...just saying, the next time some whiney Donk here tries to play the (said with whiney little girl voice), "But Rush want's Obama to fail...." (or, as some jackass on here yesterday attempted to attribute that statement to me...), be prepared for a verbal bitch slapping.
Another bleating apologist from the two-wrongs-make-a-right school.........feeble, T'man, feeble......
Trivia: A bandmate of mine works in the medical field and took care of Rush's grandfather when he was in his 90s (we're less than an hour from Cape Girardeau) - and still practicing law. He says Rush's grandpappy was a great fellow and would never say any thing anti-Rush but seldom listened to his show and when he did he often just sat there shaking his head and rolling his eyes.
(Probably wondering why he didn't listen to his wife and use condom).
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:59 pm
by Grizalltheway
Gil Dobie wrote:Being a Donk means never having to say you are sorry.

And being Gil means recyling lines 1000x over.

Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:02 pm
by Gil Dobie
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:04 pm
by travelinman67
WTAG wrote:Gil Dobie wrote:Being a Donk means never having to say you are sorry.

And being Gil means recyling lines 1000x over.

Lines that deserve to be repeated 1000x over and over. When it comes to emotional outburst/shoot from the hip gaffs, the Dem's have no peers.
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:05 pm
by dbackjon
travelinman67 wrote:WTAG wrote:
And being Gil means recyling lines 1000x over.

Lines that deserve to be repeated 1000x over and over. When it comes to emotional outburst/shoot from the hip gaffs, the Dem's have no peers.

Both parties excell at that...
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:21 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
I'll say this...
Carville retracted when "everything changed" and the nation was plunged in to crisis. THAT is a big difference.
that said... Carville really doesn't have the Svengali like hold on the Dem base that Limburger does. and if he had said that after 9-11 he'd have been LYNCHED.
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:30 pm
by travelinman67
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:I'll say this...
Carville retracted when "everything changed" and the nation was plunged in to crisis. THAT is a big difference.
that said... Carville really doesn't have the Svengali like hold on the Dem base that Limburger does. and if he had said that after 9-11 he'd have been LYNCHED.
Yup...you nailed us. The vast right wing conspiracy. We get on the phone every morning at 8:45 am to scheme how we'll carry out Rush's marching orders...
Oooops!!!!
I got confused there for a minute and confused the Conks with the Donks...
The new left-wing conspiracy
By BEN SMITH | 3/10/09 2:50 PM EDT Updated: 3/10/09 3:36 PM EDT
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19846.html
The vast new left-wing conspiracy sets its tone every morning at 8:45 a.m., when officials from more than 20 labor, environmental and other Democratic-leaning groups dial into a private conference call hosted by two left-leaning Washington organizations.
The “8:45 A.M. call,” as it’s referred to by members, began three weeks ago, and it marks a new level in coordination by the White House’s allies at a time when the conservative opposition is struggling for a toe-hold and major agenda items like health care reform appear closer than ever to passage.
The call has helped attempts to link the Republican Party to radio host Rush Limbaugh, and has served as the launching ground for attacks on critics of Obama’s policy proposals. It springs from a recognition of what was lacking in the Clinton years, said Jennifer Palmieri, the senior vice president for communications at the Center for American Progress Action Fund, one of the groups hosting the call.
“[CAP President John] Podesta’s and my experience was in the White House during the Clinton years, and we didn’t have a coordinated echo chamber on the outside backing us up,” she said. “There’s a real interest on the progressive side for groups to want to coordinate with each other and leverage each other’s work in a way I haven’t ever seen before.”
The call is hosted by Progressive Media, a project of the CAP Action Fund and the Media Matters Action Fund. The project began last year as a launching pad for attacks on John McCain, but failed to raise money for television advertisements, and served in the later days of the presidential campaign as a platform for disseminating opposition research critical of his policy plans. White House officials do not take part in the calls.
The calls are led by its top staffer, Tara McGuinness, who will also head Progressive Media's "communications research and analysis war room" to wage spin and policy wars throughout the day, Palmieri said.
The call has proved particularly effective at coordinating attacks on critics, said Jacki Schechner, the national communications director for Health Care for America Now, a labor-backed alliance of groups that support Democratic efforts to expand health care.
“There’s a coordination in terms of exposing the people who are trying to come out against reform —they’ve all got backgrounds and histories and pasts, and it’s not taking long to unearth that and to unleash that, because we’re all working together,” Schechner said.
Oooohhh! Your azz gettin' chapped hanging out their in that cold St. Paul wind, TTBF?
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:32 pm
by dbackjon
Ah - Politico - another Richard Scaife front...
Try getting "news" from someplace NOT funded by him, then we'll talk
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:42 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
frankly... I'm proud of the VLWC. We built it in response to the one the right built in the 90's.
and since I'm a big fan of Jen Palmeri... I love that her idea has finally come to fruition.
I dont have a problem with it. i'm not saying it's a bad thing that Limbaugh and VRWC exist... i'm saying it's disadvantageous for Limbaugh to be their head... he's a bleedin' talk radio host for chrissakes
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:52 pm
by travelinman67
Jon, you need to get on board with those 8:45a calls...the company line its admission, with pride, not denial by character assasination...
...no wait, it's admission and character assasination...did I get that right?
The Center for American Progress is another left wing crime syndicate carrying out Soro's marching orders, and the Dems have become the spineless puppets of their megalomaniac master.
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:05 pm
by slycat
Oh shit its over..........
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:53 pm
by Cap'n Cat
travelinman67 wrote:Flashback: Carville Wanted Bush to Fail
The press never reported that Democratic strategist James Carville said he wanted President Bush to fail before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But a feeding frenzy ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail.
By Bill Sammon
FOXNews.com
Wednesday, March 11, 2009
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03 ... bush-fail/
On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: "I certainly hope he doesn't succeed."
Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president.
"We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I'm wanting them to turn against him," Greenberg admitted.
The pollster added with a chuckle of disbelief: "They don't want him to fail. I mean, they think it matters if the president of the United States fails."
Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!"
The press followed Carville's orders, never reporting his or Greenberg's desire for Bush to fail. The omission was understandable at first, as reporters were consumed with chronicling the new war on terror. But months and even years later, the mainstream media chose to never resurrect those controversial sentiments, voiced by the Democratic Party's top strategists, that Bush should fail.
That omission stands in stark contrast to the feeding frenzy that ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail. The press devoted wall-to-wall coverage to the remark, suggesting that Limbaugh and, by extension, conservative Republicans, were unpatriotic.
"The most influential Republican in the United States today, Mr. Rush Limbaugh, said he did not want President Obama to succeed," Carville railed on CNN recently. "He is the daddy of this Republican Congress."
Doesn't matter to me...
...just saying, the next time some whiney Donk here tries to play the (said with whiney little girl voice), "But Rush want's Obama to fail...." (or, as some jackass on here yesterday attempted to attribute that statement to me...), be prepared for a verbal bitch slapping.
Punctuation awry, again, but, nonetheless, strong flag for not-so-credible "news" source.
Bitch slapping? More Conk misogyny.
"Repeated Conk jealousy, lashing and grasping. Poster is ejected."

Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:57 pm
by Cap'n Cat
travelinman67 wrote:Jon, you need to get on board with those 8:45a calls...the company line its admission, with pride, not denial by character assasination...
...no wait, it's admission and character assasination...did I get that right?
The Center for American Progress is another left wing crime syndicate carrying out Soro's marching orders, and the Dems have become the spineless puppets of their megalomaniac master.
Please see above. Add inflammatory, slanderous rhetoric.
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:10 pm
by travelinman67
Cap'n Cat wrote:travelinman67 wrote:Doesn't matter to me...
...just saying, the next time some whiney Donk here tries to play the (said with whiney little girl voice), "But Rush want's Obama to fail...." (or, as some jackass on here yesterday attempted to attribute that statement to me...), be prepared for a verbal bitch slapping.
Bitch slapping? More Conk misogyny.
Come a little closer...
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:22 pm
by Cap'n Cat
travelinman67 wrote:Cap'n Cat wrote:
Bitch slapping? More Conk misogyny.
Come a little closer...
"Um, you had something to say, T?"
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:44 pm
by travelinman67
Cap'n Cat wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
Come a little closer...
"Um, you had something to say, T?"
Hey, give me some credit...I lettered in wrestling three years and made it to Section my Sr. yr.
I'd never let you get that close standing up.
But in the event it happened...I'd be nut shotting you so hard and fast Vinatieri would blush with envy.

Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:26 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:28 pm
by grizzaholic
travelinman67 wrote:Cap'n Cat wrote:
"Um, you had something to say, T?"
Hey, give me some credit...I lettered in wrestling three years and made it to Section my Sr. yr.
I'd never let you get that close standing up.
But in the event it happened...
I'd be nut shotting you so hard and fast Vinatieri would blush with envy.

Well you would be the first human to actually see them in years.
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:45 pm
by travelinman67
grizzaholic wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
Hey, give me some credit...I lettered in wrestling three years and made it to Section my Sr. yr.
I'd never let you get that close standing up.
But in the event it happened...
I'd be nut shotting you so hard and fast Vinatieri would blush with envy.

Well you would be the first human to actually see them in years.
I believe S/E was the last to see them...
Maybe the next to see them too...

Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:46 pm
by grizzaholic
travelinman67 wrote:grizzaholic wrote:
Well you would be the first human to actually see them in years.
I believe S/E was the last to see them...
Maybe the next to see them too...

It will take more than a ball sucking for Cap'n to play nice with S/E again.
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 1:55 pm
by travelinman67
grizzaholic wrote:travelinman67 wrote:
I believe S/E was the last to see them...
Maybe the next to see them too...

It will take more than a ball sucking for Cap'n to play nice with S/E again.
Ya never know...
S/E might pull out his "secret weapon"...
...gotta use something to clear the palate after eating Chinese.
Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:04 pm
by Cap'n Cat
travelinman67 wrote:grizzaholic wrote:
It will take more than a ball sucking for Cap'n to play nice with S/E again.
Ya never know...
S/E might pull out his "secret weapon"...
...gotta use something to clear the palate after eating Chinese.
SMFH.......
I thought his Mrs. was off-limits?

Re: Carville Wanted Bush To Fail-9/11/01: Put a Fork In It, Dems
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:59 am
by Appaholic
So that's the new standard? It's OK since Carville or Rush did it?....and we wonder why.......