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Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) led the push for Bill Clinton’s impeachment. Following a disappointing election in November 1998, he announced he was stepping down as Speaker and resigning from Congress.

Gingrich later admitted that, while he was pushing for Clinton’s impeachment, he was engaged in an affair with a Congressional aide. “There were times when I was praying and when I felt I was doing things that were wrong. But I was still doing them,” Gingrich said in 2007. He later said the situation was “complex and, obviously, I wasn’t doing things to be proud of.”

Bob Livingston

After Gingrich announced his resignation, Republicans unanimously selected Rep. Bob Livingston (R-LA) to succeed him. Livingston represented the party as Speaker-elect in the led up to the impeachment vote.

On the day of the impeachment vote, Livingston announced he was resigning following revelations that he had engaged in an extramarital affair. According to Hustler Magazine Publisher Larry Flint, who offered a reward for information about the sex lives of members of Congress, he “found four women who said they had been involved with Mr. Livingston over the last 10 years.”

Dennis Hastert

Following Livingston’s resignation, which occurred on the same day the House voted on impeachment, Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) quickly gained support of the Republican leadership to succeed him as Speaker-designate. He began formally serving as speaker in January 1999, and held that role while the Senate conducted their trial on the articles of impeachment.

On Thursday, Hastert was indicted on charges that he illegally structured $1.7 million in payments to an individual in an attempt to cover up prior misconduct. According to reports, the payments were allegedly intended to “conceal sexual abuse against a former male student he knew during his days as a teacher in Yorkville, Ill.” The LA Times also reported that “investigators also spoke with a second man who raised similar allegations that corroborated what the former student said.”

So, what you're implying is that everyone in a leadership roll is a pervert?

travelinman67 wrote:So, what you're implying is that everyone in a leadership roll is a pervert?

Looks that way

travelinman67 wrote:So, what you're implying is that everyone in a leadership roll is a pervert?

...but only one committed perjury and lied under oath.

Rule Number one:
If you see a Politician pointing and screaming loudly with accusations
Look no further than the he who is doing the pointing and screaming



This goes doubly true for religious based claims...
and religious figures

God bless 'em

Chizzang wrote:Rule Number one:
If you see a Politician pointing and screaming loudly with accusations
Look no further than the he who is doing the pointing and screaming



This goes doubly true for religious based claims...
and religious figures

God bless 'em

How 'bout pious Hippies?

Baldy wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:So, what you're implying is that everyone in a leadership roll is a pervert?

...but only one committed perjury and lied under oath.

/thread

Juss conks being conks.

AZGrizFan wrote:

Baldy wrote: ...but only one committed perjury and lied under oath.

/thread

Oh...well that settles it then.

dbackjon wrote:
On Thursday, Hastert was indicted on charges that he illegally structured $1.7 million in payments to an individual in an attempt to cover up prior misconduct. According to reports, the payments were allegedly intended to “conceal sexual abuse against a former male student he knew during his days as a teacher in Yorkville, Ill.” The LA Times also reported that “investigators also spoke with a second man who raised similar allegations that corroborated what the former student said.”

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Bill Clinton committed perjury.

That's a felony, for the record.

I'm not sure I would have voted for his impeachment, but he did break the law. If it had been a Republican, the Democrats would have done the same thing, and Republicans would be pointing to the hypocrisy of the "immoral" Democrats.

The moral of this story is that when you are under oath you tell the truth. If Bill Clinton had done that (doubtful he is capable of mea culpas) he would not have been impeached.

CID1990 wrote:Bill Clinton committed perjury.

That's a felony, for the record.

Not at all clear.
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CID1990 wrote:Bill Clinton committed perjury.

That's a felony, for the record.

I'm not sure I would have voted for his impeachment, but he did break the law. If it had been a Republican, the Democrats would have done the same thing, and Republicans would be pointing to the hypocrisy of the "immoral" Democrats.

The moral of this story is that when you are under oath you tell the truth. If Bill Clinton had done that (doubtful he is capable of mea culpas) he would not have been impeached.

For the record,

Bush Lied about WMDs. He also failed to kill (OBL). but president Obama did.
Cheney should be in Jail for making money (20 million dollars) off of the blood of our young warriors.

SO screw you REPUKES!
4 more MOFO YEARS! BEEEEEOTCH!

Whether Clinton should've been impeached or not is certainly arguable, and certainly partisan, but Clinton wasn't impeached for having an affair, he was impeached for perjury. Unless Gingrich or Hastert or whoever else was involved committed perjury, it's not the same thing. No one ever denied that Clinton perjured himself - he even took the plea deal and was disbarred because of it.

mrklean wrote: For the record.

I'm an idiot.

Accuracy.

dbackjon wrote:The Irony is thick.

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Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) led the push for Bill Clinton’s impeachment. Following a disappointing election in November 1998, he announced he was stepping down as Speaker and resigning from Congress.

Gingrich later admitted that, while he was pushing for Clinton’s impeachment, he was engaged in an affair with a Congressional aide. “There were times when I was praying and when I felt I was doing things that were wrong. But I was still doing them,” Gingrich said in 2007. He later said the situation was “complex and, obviously, I wasn’t doing things to be proud of.”

Hypocrisy aside, the perjury was the bigger issue than the adultery. POTUS is held to a higher standard. I don't care if he got some on the side, but he lied time and time again.

Baldy wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:So, what you're implying is that everyone in a leadership roll is a pervert?

...but only one committed perjury and lied under oath.

Why'd you repeat yourself.

Clinton lied AND he failed to tell the truth.

mrklean wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Bill Clinton committed perjury.

That's a felony, for the record.

I'm not sure I would have voted for his impeachment, but he did break the law. If it had been a Republican, the Democrats would have done the same thing, and Republicans would be pointing to the hypocrisy of the "immoral" Democrats.

The moral of this story is that when you are under oath you tell the truth. If Bill Clinton had done that (doubtful he is capable of mea culpas) he would not have been impeached.

For the record,

Bush Lied about WMDs. He also failed to kill (OBL). but president Obama did.
Cheney should be in Jail for making money (20 million dollars) off of the blood of our young warriors.

SO screw you REPUKES!
4 more MOFO YEARS! BEEEEEOTCH!

I honestly believe Bush was lied to by his advisers and staff.

And Obama didn't do anything. Navy Seals killed Osama.

And, Osama didn't blow up the twin towers.

Ibanez wrote:

Baldy wrote: ...but only one committed perjury and lied under oath.

Why'd you repeat yourself.

Clinton lied AND he failed to tell the truth.

For clarity.

Ibanez wrote:

mrklean wrote:

For the record,

Bush Lied about WMDs. He also failed to kill (OBL). but president Obama did.
Cheney should be in Jail for making money (20 million dollars) off of the blood of our young warriors.

SO screw you REPUKES!
4 more MOFO YEARS! BEEEEEOTCH!

I honestly believe Bush was lied to by his advisers and staff.

And Obama didn't do anything. Navy Seals killed Osama.

Bush would have to be the most stupid President in History not to know the truth. It's WMD's not a box of Jolly Ranchers. Personally, I think Cheney talked him into invading Iraq.


Come on! man up and Give credit to Obama. It was on his watch. If it had gone totally to hell you would have blamed him for it.

mrklean wrote:

CID1990 wrote:Bill Clinton committed perjury.

That's a felony, for the record.

I'm not sure I would have voted for his impeachment, but he did break the law. If it had been a Republican, the Democrats would have done the same thing, and Republicans would be pointing to the hypocrisy of the "immoral" Democrats.

The moral of this story is that when you are under oath you tell the truth. If Bill Clinton had done that (doubtful he is capable of mea culpas) he would not have been impeached.

For the record,

Bush Lied about WMDs. He also failed to kill (OBL). but president Obama did.
Cheney should be in Jail for making money (20 million dollars) off of the blood of our young warriors.

SO screw you REPUKES!
4 more MOFO YEARS! BEEEEEOTCH!

Do you believe in aliens? UFO's? Bigfoot? Loch Ness Monster? Yeti?

AZGrizFan wrote:

mrklean wrote:

For the record,

Bush Lied about WMDs. He also failed to kill (OBL). but president Obama did.
Cheney should be in Jail for making money (20 million dollars) off of the blood of our young warriors.

SO screw you REPUKES!
4 more MOFO YEARS! BEEEEEOTCH!

Do you believe in aliens? UFO's? Bigfoot? Loch Ness Monster? Yeti?

I will find all of them, before we find the WMD's in Iraq..............