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Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:43 pm
by Chizzang
133 million Americans are over weight...
That's a lot of fat people - of which 67 Mil were obese
"67.6 million Americans over the age of 25 were obese as of 2012, and an additional 65.2 million were overweight. Their count was based on data collected between 2007 and 2012 as part of the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, an ongoing study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention..."
http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-s ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:51 pm
by Brock Landers
ECB
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:59 pm
by 89Hen
Brock Landers wrote:ECB
SECB
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:00 pm
by Chizzang
89Hen wrote:Brock Landers wrote:ECB
SECB

Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:30 pm
by JohnStOnge
The problem is that the BMI is a bunch of crap. I've thought about that often with respect to my own situation. But before I get to that I'll use another example. According to the BMI Marshawn Lynch is obese.
Now I'll take my own case because I think about it when I go for my six month checkups and get my BMI stuff as part of that. I think anybody that sees me would think I'm skinny. On the day that my wife took the picture below I weighed 185 pounds. I am 6'1". So on that day I had a 24.4 BMI. BARELY under the "overweight" line of 25.
Meanwhile, the BMI says that I could have been friggin' 45 pounds lighter and been "normal." Can you imagine what I would have looked like 45 pounds lighter? I'd have looked like a concentration camp survivor on the day of liberation.
The BMI is a bunch of crap and it's pretty obvious. It's amazing to me that health authorities continue to use it.
Again: Just look at this picture of me at 6' 1" and think of what I'd look like if I lost 45 pounds. The BMI says I'd be "normal" weight if that happened. It's an absurd index.

Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:32 pm
by Ibanez
89Hen wrote:Brock Landers wrote:ECB
SECB
It's the biscuits and gravy. And fried chicken. And gumbo. And grits.
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:32 pm
by Ibanez
Why would someone take a picture of JSO pressure washing?
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:11 pm
by JohnStOnge
Ibanez wrote:Why would someone take a picture of JSO pressure washing?
Because she wanted to show her sisters that she got me to do it.
But the main thing for this discussion is just look at that as a person. Not me. Just a person. The person, for his height, is 5 pounds away from being "overweight" according to the BMI and 45 pounds away from being "underweight." To me you look at that picture and contemplate that and it's pretty obvious that there are serious problems with the BMI. It's OBVIOUSLY biased towards indicating people are overweight. I have NO doubt that a very high percentage of people in our country are considered overweight due to application of the BMI when they're really not. Also a very high percentage of people are considered obese when they're really not.
Like really. This guy (Marshawn Lynch) is "obsese" according to the BMI:
It's pretty obvious there's a problem with the "measurement" being used to categorize people.
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:16 pm
by Pwns
JSO is correct. I'm fairly sure if I lost every pound of body fat I have my corpse would be considered obese.
On top of that, there is also research (including a fairly big meta analysis from a few years ago) suggesting people in the "overweight" BMI range actually have the best longevity-better than the obese or the "normal" BMI folks.
That aside, this is still a public health problem that in the short term will be costly to the health care system.
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:22 pm
by JohnStOnge
This guy (Adrian Peterson) is overweight and close to obese according to the BMI:

Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:29 pm
by Ibanez
JohnStOnge wrote:Ibanez wrote:Why would someone take a picture of JSO pressure washing?
Because she wanted to show her sisters that she got me to do it.
But the main thing for this discussion is just look at that as a person. Not me. Just a person. The person, for his height, is 5 pounds away from being "overweight" according to the BMI and 45 pounds away from being "underweight." To me you look at that picture and contemplate that and it's pretty obvious that there are serious problems with the BMI. It's OBVIOUSLY biased towards indicating people are overweight. I have NO doubt that a very high percentage of people in our country are considered overweight due to application of the BMI when they're really not. Also a very high percentage of people are considered obese when they're really not.
Like really. This guy (Marshawn Lynch) is "obsese" according to the BMI:
It's pretty obvious there's a problem with the "measurement" being used to categorize people.
BMI is an inaccurate as one can get.
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:37 pm
by houndawg
I'm supposed to be 7'4".

Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:42 pm
by ∞∞∞
JohnStOnge wrote:

Not to be "that guy," but is that honestly the only picture of Lynch you could find? I did a simple Google search and that image didn't even show up, even though there are a million of him in a perfectly normal pose. Just seemed kinda odd
that's the image you posted, and a seemingly obscure one at that...
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:42 pm
by BDKJMU
Ibanez wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:
Because she wanted to show her sisters that she got me to do it.
But the main thing for this discussion is just look at that as a person. Not me. Just a person. The person, for his height, is 5 pounds away from being "overweight" according to the BMI and 45 pounds away from being "underweight." To me you look at that picture and contemplate that and it's pretty obvious that there are serious problems with the BMI. It's OBVIOUSLY biased towards indicating people are overweight. I have NO doubt that a very high percentage of people in our country are considered overweight due to application of the BMI when they're really not. Also a very high percentage of people are considered obese when they're really not.
Like really. This guy (Marshawn Lynch) is "obsese" according to the BMI:
It's pretty obvious there's a problem with the "measurement" being used to categorize people.
BMI is an inaccurate as one can get.
Yep. BMI is as worthless as tits on a bull. You have body builders, powerlifters, strogman competitors, highland games competitors, Olympic lifters, hard core recreational lifters, pro athletes, etc, basically large volume of muscle people (remember muscle weighs more than fat) who aren't remotely close to 'obese' are labeled obese...
Body fat is what matters, not BMI..
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:59 pm
by AZGrizFan
houndawg wrote:I'm supposed to be 7'4".

Houndawg for the win...

Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:46 pm
by YoUDeeMan
Chizzang wrote:133 million Americans are over weight...
That's a lot of fat people - of which 67 Mil were obese
"67.6 million Americans over the age of 25 were obese as of 2012, and an additional 65.2 million were overweight. Their count was based on data collected between 2007 and 2012 as part of the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, an ongoing study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention..."
http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-s ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Easy mistake...they meant to say that 67.6 million Americans over the age of 25 were
obtuse.
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:33 pm
by Chizzang
John... the study is based on the CDC's BMI + Waist Circum
Which means Lynch is well within the standards and NOT obese
Read the CDC obesity report its NOT just BMI
again: YOU are a total drama queen

Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:40 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Lynch looks gooey...............he really needs to tone up.
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:37 am
by andy7171
JohnStOnge wrote:

Is this picture from your craigslist causal encounters ads?
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:28 am
by ASUG8
My doc has a BMI chart on his door but has told me it's unreliable and not to worry about it given my waist size. My BMI puts me in the overweight category, but I'm also undertall.

Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:38 am
by Pwns
Chizzang wrote:John... the study is based on the CDC's BMI + Waist Circum
Which means Lynch is well within the standards and NOT obese
Read the CDC obesity report its NOT just BMI
again: YOU are a total drama queen

Really?
Because it doesn't look to me like the CDC has adjusted their definition of Obesity to include waist circumference...
http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/adult/defining.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:47 am
by bluehenbillk
As soon as you read BMI you can stop reading.
However, there are more than enough fat people in the US, no question about that.
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:07 am
by Chizzang
Pwns wrote:Chizzang wrote:John... the study is based on the CDC's BMI + Waist Circum
Which means Lynch is well within the standards and NOT obese
Read the CDC obesity report its NOT just BMI
again: YOU are a total drama queen

Really?
Because it doesn't look to me like the CDC has adjusted their definition of Obesity to include waist circumference...
http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/adult/defining.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now I'm going to question your IQ...
There's a difference between the CDC's landing page on BMI
which amounts to an explanation as to what BMI is
and the study which the article references - which is a nutritional survey
"The National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey" which actually began in the 1950's at some point
and has continued on since - the report focuses on the survey period between 2007 and 2012
You're either willfully dishonest - which you've shown regularly - or stupid

Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:12 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Why does anyone reply to this troll?
This is just another subtle "bad cleets" is better than everyone thread.
Most of us will never know what it's like to have an ironing board stomach and arms that have been ripping wrinkles out of pleats for years.
Just be happy with who you are, we don't need anymore dals, or kkkleans
Re: Fat Americans... (The new normal)
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:16 am
by Chizzang
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Why does anyone reply to this troll?
This is just another subtle "bad cleets" is better than everyone thread.
Most of us will never know what it's like to have an ironing board stomach and arms that have been ripping wrinkles out of pleats for years.
Just be happy with who you are, we don't need anymore dals, or kkkleans
Is that right.. clearly I've hit a soft spot (pun intended)
So shall we examine the themes of your threads..?
