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Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:01 am
by kalm
A pretty good review of Mark Maron's interview with the Big O. WTF is indeed one of the best podcasts out there and Maron is a great interviewer but he swore off politics a long time ago, so I don't really blame him for not digging into Obama's mind like he normally would a guest.
The interview is a great example of Obama's aloofness.

Is the use of the word "nigger" beneath the office of the President?
But even casually dropping the N-word and addressing a topic that is at the forefront of our American culture, albeit one that needs to be addressed—
“Racism, we are not cured of it. And it’s not just a matter of it not being polite to say n----- in public… That’s not the measure of whether racism still exists or not. It’s not just a matter of overt discrimination. Societies don’t, overnight, completely erase everything that happened 200 to 300 years prior.”
—was not in the vein of the WTF podcast’s usual flow, and sounded more like a potential sound bite than intimate interaction.
The failure of Congress to act was a recurring theme throughout the show, as were conversationally injected bullet points about the successes of his administration—health care, jobs, the economy, ending wars, and asking, and answering himself, “Are we better off now that we were four years ago? The answer is unequivocally yes.”
But while Obama spoke conversationally, it was hardly a conversation. Maron was all but silent, interjecting only a few times, as Obama spoke at length.
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Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:23 am
by andy7171
I don't see the big deal. He's talking about racism. In the context he used it in, it was appropriate.
Doing a pod cast interview in someones garage, is beneath the Presidency.
Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:31 am
by kalm
andy7171 wrote:I don't see the big deal. He's talking about racism. In the context he used it in, it was appropriate.
Doing a pod cast interview in someones garage, is beneath the Presidency.
I think that part is admirable.
Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:44 am
by ASUG8
Did his white half or his black half use the word?

Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:48 am
by AZGrizFan
ASUG8 wrote:Did his white half or his black half use the word?

Exactly.

Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:58 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
That word is no different than "cupcake"........if its in the American lexicon there is no REAL reason it cannot be used if one chooses to.
That being said, you know it was Obamas white half that said it
Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:02 am
by Ibanez
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:That word is no different than "cupcake"........if its in the American lexicon there is no REAL reason it cannot be used if one chooses to.
That being said, you know it was Obamas white half that said it
This is a non issue.
Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:07 am
by mrklean
andy7171 wrote:I don't see the big deal. He's talking about racism. In the context he used it in, it was appropriate.
Doing a pod cast interview in someones garage, is beneath the Presidency.
No problem with it. Move along.
Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:15 am
by BDKJMU
andy7171 wrote:I don't see the big deal. He's talking about racism. In the context he used it in, it was appropriate.
Doing a pod cast interview in someones garage, is beneath the Presidency.
So if a white Conk POTUS says it in the same context its no different then?
Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:29 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
BDKJMU wrote:andy7171 wrote:I don't see the big deal. He's talking about racism. In the context he used it in, it was appropriate.
Doing a pod cast interview in someones garage, is beneath the Presidency.
So if a white Conk POTUS says it in the same context its no different then?
Nope, LBJ used that word a lot
Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:36 am
by mrklean
BDKJMU wrote:andy7171 wrote:I don't see the big deal. He's talking about racism. In the context he used it in, it was appropriate.
Doing a pod cast interview in someones garage, is beneath the Presidency.
So if a white Conk POTUS says it in the same context its no different then?
LBJ and Nixon used it. I'm pretty sure Reagan used it also.
Re: Obama
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:43 am
by BDKJMU
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:BDKJMU wrote:
So if a white Conk POTUS says it in the same context its no different then?
Nope,
LBJ used that word a lot
????
Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:15 am
by andy7171
BDKJMU wrote:andy7171 wrote:I don't see the big deal. He's talking about racism. In the context he used it in, it was appropriate.
Doing a pod cast interview in someones garage, is beneath the Presidency.
So if a white Conk POTUS says it in the same context its no different then?
If a Conk anyone said it, they would be publicly humiliated and then drawn and quartered.
Re: Obama
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:21 am
by Ibanez
BDKJMU wrote:ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Nope, LBJ used that word a lot
????
LBJ said the the n-word a lot.
Re: Obama
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:36 am
by tribe_pride
Ibanez wrote:BDKJMU wrote:
????
LBJ said the the n-word a lot.
The ??? marks were because Lebron ... I mean ... Lyndon B. Johnson was a Democrat. Earlier he said if a white Conk POTUS said the same in the same context, he'd get crushed.
And obviously, we are talking about the PC era.
Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:57 pm
by Ibanez
tribe_pride wrote:Ibanez wrote:
LBJ said the the n-word a lot.
The ??? marks were because Lebron ... I mean ... Lyndon B. Johnson was a Democrat. Earlier he said if a white Conk POTUS said the same in the same context, he'd get crushed.
And obviously, we are talking about the PC era.
I know why he was confused. Alpha was showing that a democrat was just as guilty as a republican.
Right, AG1?
Re: Obama
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:53 pm
by dbackjon
Ibanez wrote:tribe_pride wrote:
The ??? marks were because Lebron ... I mean ... Lyndon B. Johnson was a Democrat. Earlier he said if a white Conk POTUS said the same in the same context, he'd get crushed.
And obviously, we are talking about the PC era.
I know why he was confused. Alpha was showing that a democrat was just as guilty as a republican.
Right, AG1?
Ag1 is just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.
right alphie?
Re: Obama
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:41 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Ibanez wrote:tribe_pride wrote:
The ??? marks were because Lebron ... I mean ... Lyndon B. Johnson was a Democrat. Earlier he said if a white Conk POTUS said the same in the same context, he'd get crushed.
And obviously, we are talking about the PC era.
I know why he was confused. Alpha was showing that a democrat was just as guilty as a republican.
Right, AG1?
Not really, I was just showing that Democrats are ALWAYS racist, especially politicians, the right wingers believe in equality, compassion and individual freedom.
All the left has done the last 100 years is keep blacks enslaved.......and LBJ just didnt try to hide it like they do now.
Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:30 pm
by Ursus A. Horribilis
kalm, you're welcome, first off.
Here's some extra from Opie & Jim today for you.
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Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:45 pm
by CID1990
kalm wrote:A pretty good review of Mark Maron's interview with the Big O. WTF is indeed one of the best podcasts out there and Maron is a great interviewer but he swore off politics a long time ago, so I don't really blame him for not digging into Obama's mind like he normally would a guest.
The interview is a great example of Obama's aloofness.

Is the use of the word "n*****" beneath the office of the President?
But even casually dropping the N-word and addressing a topic that is at the forefront of our American culture, albeit one that needs to be addressed—
“Racism, we are not cured of it. And it’s not just a matter of it not being polite to say n----- in public… That’s not the measure of whether racism still exists or not. It’s not just a matter of overt discrimination. Societies don’t, overnight, completely erase everything that happened 200 to 300 years prior.”
—was not in the vein of the WTF podcast’s usual flow, and sounded more like a potential sound bite than intimate interaction.
The failure of Congress to act was a recurring theme throughout the show, as were conversationally injected bullet points about the successes of his administration—health care, jobs, the economy, ending wars, and asking, and answering himself, “Are we better off now that we were four years ago? The answer is unequivocally yes.”
But while Obama spoke conversationally, it was hardly a conversation. Maron was all but silent, interjecting only a few times, as Obama spoke at length.
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Well I don't know if the office of the Presidency is what it used to be but
what Obama said was undignified -
first of all, he took advantage of an unwritten racially divisive rule - he used an incendiary word that highlighted his blackness - because only a black man can say it in public and not be questioned on how he said it
It was little different than a President saying that he can sympathize with a homicide victim becuas they have the same skin color (and that is precisely what he
said - the words were different).
Clitz called it the Pity Card but I disagree - it is just a *nuanced* version of the race card and Presidents should not use it in any context because among many other things it is undignified
Re: Obama "******" on WTF
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:48 am
by kalm
Thanks!
