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Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:58 pm
by BDKJMU
"The number of concealed carry handgun permits has skyrocketed since President Obama was first elected, while murder rates have fallen, according to a new report released Wednesday.
Since 2007, the number of concealed handgun permits has soared from 4.6 million to over 12.8 million, and murder rates have fallen from 5.6 killings per 100,000 people to just 4.2, about a 25 percent drop, according to the report from the Crime Prevention Research Center.
And the number of permits issued is increasing faster every year. Over 1.7 million new permits were issued last year — a 15.4 percent increase over 2013, the largest such single-year jump ever, according to the report from the center led by President John R. Lott and research director John E. Whitley.
The number of concealed carriers is likely even higher, since permits are not required in eight states......."
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Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:59 pm
by BDKJMU
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Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:36 pm
by Skjellyfetti
The murder rate has been dropping for decades...
Also, does it matter if there are more concealed carry permits since Obama confiscated everyone's guns?

Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:38 pm
by travelinman67
Only a few dogma chuckleheads are still spouting the 60's anti-gun rhetoric...
...CCW's save lives.
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:39 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Concealed carry citizens save more lives than doctors do.
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:39 pm
by D1B
permits have little or nothing to do with it.
The decline is due to three primary reasons:
1. Better economy
2. Cell phones
3. Social media
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:46 pm
by AZGrizFan
Skjellyfetti wrote:The murder rate has been dropping for decades...
Except in those areas where they vilify cops. Baltimore, anyone?
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:47 pm
by D1B
Skjellyfetti wrote:The murder rate has been dropping for decades...
Also, does it matter if there are more concealed carry permits since Obama confiscated everyone's guns?

Conks-what morons.
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:10 pm
by AZGrizFan
D1B wrote:Skjellyfetti wrote:The murder rate has been dropping for decades...
Also, does it matter if there are more concealed carry permits since Obama confiscated everyone's guns?

Conks-what morons.

Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:38 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
D1B wrote:permits have little or nothing to do with it.
The decline is due to three primary reasons:
1. Better economy
2. Cell phones
3. Social media
I dont need a permit to carry my right to keep and bear arms in guaranteed in the 2nd amendment.
Yes I am a militia so save that lame fu*king donk shit for some other argument you are being trounced in by T man, Cluck or me.
The economy is pure shit, we are the next Greece thanks to your white house nig
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:47 pm
by D1B
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:D1B wrote:permits have little or nothing to do with it.
The decline is due to three primary reasons:
1. Better economy
2. Cell phones
3. Social media
I dont need a permit to carry my right to keep and bear arms in guaranteed in the 2nd amendment.
Yes I am a militia so save that lame fu*king donk shit for some other argument you are being trounced in by T man, Cluck or me.
The economy is pure shit, we are the next Greece thanks to your white house nig
You're a balding doughboy with a 16 handicap who couldn't fight his way out of a paper douchebag.
The Cap'n & I are hitting a Montana game this fall. If you show with so much as squirt gun on you, theres gonna be trouble. Count on it, Biffalo Bull.
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:25 pm
by travelinman67
Once again, King Troll gets his ass kicked and goes personal...this time defaulting to the "old D1B" tactic...
...the threat.
Fucking loser.

Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:35 pm
by ALPHAGRIZ1
I dont need to go heels to get the drop on a tub like you
That being said I always carry at games
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:38 pm
by D1B
travelinman67 wrote:Once again, King Troll gets his ass kicked and goes personal...this time defaulting to the "old D1B" tactic...
...the threat.
Fucking loser.

Poor TRUMPman. Demoralized from constant ass whippings has nothing left other than to follow my posts and pathetically comment. Same pattern he's used since getting 6.93'd by houndawg.
It's sad really. But, you know what they say, if you can't cook the meat, get out of here.
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:36 am
by houndawg
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:D1B wrote:permits have little or nothing to do with it.
The decline is due to three primary reasons:
1. Better economy
2. Cell phones
3. Social media
I dont need a permit to carry my right to keep and bear arms in guaranteed in the 2nd amendment.
Yes I am a militia so save that lame fu*king donk **** for some other argument you are being trounced in by T man, Cluck or me.
The economy is pure ****, we are the next Greece thanks to your white house nig
You aint shit, they wouldn't even let you hang around Bundy's ranch.
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:39 am
by houndawg
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:D1B wrote:permits have little or nothing to do with it.
The decline is due to three primary reasons:
1. Better economy
2. Cell phones
3. Social media
I dont need a permit to carry my right to keep and bear arms in guaranteed in the 2nd amendment.
Yes I am a militia so save that lame fu*king donk **** for some other argument you are being trounced in by T man, Cluck or me.
The economy is pure ****,
we are the next Greece thanks to your white house nig
Record stock market. Highest corporate profits ever. Snuffed bin Laden.
If he runs for a third term he wins in a landslide.

Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:42 am
by houndawg
D1B wrote:travelinman67 wrote:Once again, King Troll gets his ass kicked and goes personal...this time defaulting to the "old D1B" tactic...
...the threat.
**** loser.

Poor TRUMPman. Demoralized from constant ass whippings has nothing left other than to follow my posts and pathetically comment. Same pattern he's used since getting 6.93'd by houndawg.
It's sad really. But, you know what they say, if you can't cook the meat, get out of here.
Poor Trumpman6.93..he's like the guy on the old Miller Lite commercials, standing in the snow looking in the window at the great time the popular kids are having and wondering why everybody points and laughs at him....

Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:56 am
by CAA Flagship
houndawg wrote:ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
I dont need a permit to carry my right to keep and bear arms in guaranteed in the 2nd amendment.
Yes I am a militia so save that lame fu*king donk **** for some other argument you are being trounced in by T man, Cluck or me.
The economy is pure ****, we are the next Greece thanks to your white house nig
Record stock market. Highest corporate profits ever. Snuffed bin Laden.
If he runs for a third term he wins in a landslide.


You don't understand how it all works, do you?
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:45 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
He do wat Obama tell him to do, that how he be
Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:22 am
by CID1990
I don't think a rise in CCPs has much effect on crime rates. If someone tries to rob me and I shoot him, it still goes down in the UCR as a robbery (and add in a homicide)
The argument is the deterrent effect, but most criminals don't think in those terms.
What the lowering crime rate vs increased CCPs DO show is that there is no increase in crime AS A RESULT OF increased CCPs, which is a common trope used by gun control advocates.