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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 1:28 pm
by travelinman67
Tranparency...Obama style...

Obama Administration Declares Proposed IP Treaty a 'National Security' Secret

By David Kravets March 12, 2009 | 11:21:09 PM

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/0 ... lares.html
President Barack Obama came into office in January promising a new era of openness.

But now, like Bush before him, Obama is playing the national security card to hide details of the controversial Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement being negotiated across the globe.

The White House this week declared (.pdf) the text of the proposed treaty a "properly classified" national security secret, in rejecting a Freedom of Information Act request by Knowledge Ecology International.

"Please be advised the documents you seek are being withheld in full," wrote Carmen Suro-Bredie, chief FOIA officer in the White House's Office of the U.S. Trade Representative.


The national security claim is stunning, given that the treaty negotiations have included the 27 member states of the European Union, Japan, South Korea, Canada, Mexico, Australia, Switzerland and New Zealand, all of whom presumably have access to the "classified" information.

In early January, the Bush administration made the same claim in rejecting (.pdf) a similar FOIA request by the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

If ratified, leaked documents posted on WikiLeaks and other comments suggest the proposed trade accord would criminalize peer-to-peer file sharing, subject iPods to border searches and allow internet service providers to monitor their customers' communications.

In his first days in office, Obama publicly committed himself to transparency, instructing government agencies to err on the side of public access and divulge information whenever possible under the Freedom of Information Act. Obama recently released a trove of documents relating to the Bush administration's rational for torture of enemy combatants and other abuses.

At the same time, though, Justice Department lawyers have been arguing in court that the "state secrets privilege" should bar lawsuits over the NSA's warrantless wiretapping program.
Change you can believe in... :thumb:

Re: Change: Bush...OBush...OBushama...OBuma...Obama...

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:01 pm
by Cap'n Cat
Ever have original thoughts, T?

I'd be more inclined to attend to your posts, if it was just you talking. Why the need to cite Conk shit left and right?

You're a sharp guy, you don't need back up.


Re: this, even you would agre that there are some things about which a U.S. president cannot be transparent, correct? When I heard Obama talk about a much more transparent government, I never expected him to divulge sensitive shit regarding national seccurity.

You guys are so filled with ConkHate, it's kinda embarrassing to watch.


And, yes, I am perfect.

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:03 pm
by Gil Dobie
Hug-O-Death :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:43 pm
by grizzaholic
Gil Dobie wrote:Hug-O-Death :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

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That kind of looks like OJ's glove.......

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:43 pm
by wildkyle
i don't like obama but there are things that need to be secret. if obama says it needs to be secret somebody is telling that is should

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:55 pm
by Skjellyfetti
Gil Dobie wrote:Hug-O-Death :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

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Yeah, I agree. Bush does look like a corpse in that pic. :shock:

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:29 pm
by Appaholic
You're reaching TMan.....

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:19 pm
by ASUMountaineer
Gil Dobie wrote:Hug-O-Death :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

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Bush looks so relieved in that picture. It's almost like he's thinking "Thank God" and "You are so stupid to want this job." at the same time.

Re: Change: Bush...OBush...OBushama...OBuma...Obama...

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:09 pm
by travelinman67
ASUMountaineer wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Hug-O-Death :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

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Bush looks so relieved in that picture. It's almost like he's thinking "Thank God" and "You are so stupid to want this job." at the same time.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's exactly what I was thinking...

"I'm outta here!"

Re: Change: Bush...OBush...OBushama...OBuma...Obama...

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:01 am
by houndawg
travelinman67 wrote:
ASUMountaineer wrote:
Bush looks so relieved in that picture. It's almost like he's thinking "Thank God" and "You are so stupid to want this job." at the same time.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That's exactly what I was thinking...

"I'm outta here!"
:lol: "You wouldn't be huggin' me if you knew what I left on your desk".

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:07 am
by Wedgebuster
Is there an image somewhere of the right hand/glove?

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:26 pm
by mass fan
grizzaholic wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:Hug-O-Death :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

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That kind of looks like OJ's glove.......
What kind of watch is Bush sportin?

Re: Change: Bush...OBush...OBushama...OBuma...Obama...

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:14 pm
by catamount man
Ron Paul was REAL change. :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:32 pm
by Gil Dobie
mass fan wrote: What kind of watch is Bush sportin?
I bought one that look like that in Chinatown, lasted about a month.

Re: Change: Bush...OBush...OBushama...OBuma...Obama...

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:55 pm
by TwinTownBisonFan
I like how when Obama makes change T-Man posts "OMGEEZUS HESAPINKO OMGHELPUSALLLLLL!!!""" and when he doesn't make a change it's "OMGEEZUS THISAINTCHANGE YOUREAFRAUDBASTARD"

we get it... nothing he does will ever be right because of that (D) after his name.