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Fucking wolves. Now they are killing the hunter's dogs that go after mountain lions.

The EPA really needs to have a classification between butterflies, coral and large predators. I am sick and tired of these shitholes. I will be hunting them as much as possible next year...or sooner and hopefully eradicate them all.

part of the natural cycle, griza...if you eradicate the wolves, who's left to attack the inevitable increase in Cali transplants due to relaxing of marijuana laws? your shooting range will soon be converted to a tennis court for Biff & Buffy.....

Appaholic wrote:part of the natural cycle, griza...if you eradicate the wolves, who's left to attack the inevitable increase in Cali transplants due to relaxing of marijuana laws? your shooting range will soon be converted to a tennis court for Biff & Buffy.....

Never happen. It is on a 100 year lease and was just renewed. I am not worried. You can always support Montana's hunting, Shoot an out of stater.

grizzaholic wrote:You can always support Montana's hunting, Shoot an out of stater.

Unless they are wearing AppSt gear and stumbling down Front Street......

Appaholic wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:You can always support Montana's hunting, Shoot an out of stater.

Unless they are wearing AppSt gear and stumbling down Front Street......

Those you have to take a more delicate approach. You shoot them a stare, then you shoot them another beer, and then you give them a few shots and then you shoot them in the right direction.

Welfare cowboys whining about a few dogs.

grizzaholic wrote:

Appaholic wrote:part of the natural cycle, griza...if you eradicate the wolves, who's left to attack the inevitable increase in Cali transplants due to relaxing of marijuana laws? your shooting range will soon be converted to a tennis court for Biff & Buffy.....

Never happen. It is on a 100 year lease and was just renewed. I am not worried. You can always support Montana's hunting, Shoot an out of stater.

Make sure the out of stater is from a red state though, the ones from the blue states are providing your federal handouts.

houndawg wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Never happen. It is on a 100 year lease and was just renewed. I am not worried. You can always support Montana's hunting, Shoot an out of stater.

Make sure the out of stater is from a red state though, the ones from the blue states are providing your federal handouts.

As Jelly would point out, NC is now a blue state.

Poor mountain lions....

ASUMountaineer wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Make sure the out of stater is from a red state though, the ones from the blue states are providing your federal handouts.

As Jelly would point out, NC is now a blue state.

My bad, thought he was talkin' about Montana. Hell they may be blue now too.

That would explain the cowboys' feeling of entitlement.

houndawg wrote:

ASUMountaineer wrote:
As Jelly would point out, NC is now a blue state.

My bad, thought he was talkin' about Montana. Hell they may be blue now too.

That would explain the cowboys' feeling of entitlement.

I was thinking of Appaholic strolling his jolly ass through Wyoming.

ASUMountaineer wrote:

houndawg wrote:
My bad, thought he was talkin' about Montana. Hell they may be blue now too.

That would explain the cowboys' feeling of entitlement.

I was thinking of Appaholic strolling his jolly ass through Wyoming.

If he doesn't carry a beer he could wind up at a hunter's check station with a bear-tag on his toe.

houndawg wrote:

ASUMountaineer wrote:
I was thinking of Appaholic strolling his jolly ass through Wyoming.

If he doesn't carry a beer he could wind up at a hunter's check station with a bear-tag on his toe.

Reppies if I could.

dbackjon wrote:Poor mountain lions....

houndawg wrote: Welfare cowboys whining about a few dogs.

What the hell you talking about?? Get a fucking clue before you chime in on the Wolf problem we are currently having.

Gil Dobie wrote:

dbackjon wrote:Poor mountain lions....

That's a badass mule if it isn't photoshop.

houndawg wrote:
That's a badass mule if it isn't photoshop.

Snopes says it's not photoshop, but a mule taking it's rage out on a dead lion.

grizzaholic wrote:

houndawg wrote: Welfare cowboys whining about a few dogs.

What the hell you talking about?? Get a f**k[*] clue before you chime in on the Wolf problem we are currently having.

Oh please. Wolves account for a miniscule fraction of cattle losses. What kills cattle out there is about the same as what kills them here - respiratory and digestive problems and calving complications. Predators account for maybe 5% of livestock losses and the vast majority of predator losses are due to coyotes and domestic dogs. Lightning gets far more cattle than wolves. Thieves steal more cattle than wolves take.

Over its 20-year history, the Defenders of Wildlife have made 276 payments to Montanans totaling more than $317,000 for 336 cattle, 689 sheep, 16 livestock dogs and 15 other animals, including mules and llamas.

In 2007, the group spent more than $81,000 for projects that used nonlethal deterrents to reduce conflicts between wolves and livestock. More than half of that - $48,000 in total - was spent in Montana.

The Defenders program compensated ranchers

100 percent for confirmed wolf kills and 50 percent for animals that were probably killed by wolves.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Wildlife Services Division investigated and confirmed livestock losses under Defenders' program and will continue that work when the state takes over.

Edwards said Defenders of Wildlife did a “great job” in forging strong partnerships between public and private interests. The state hopes to build on that success.

“This is a program that's good for wolves and good for ranchers,” he said. “I think we're going to find that people want to support it.”

The next step includes getting administrative rules for the board and program resolved. The draft rules will be published and opened for public comment in about a month.

Edwards said the board will not get involved in wolf management issues.

“The reimbursement program is called for in the state's wolf management plan, but the board won't get involved in wolf management decisions,” Edwards said. “We leave that to the experts at Fish, Wildlife and Parks.”

http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2008 ... news02.txt

So, Wolves take on average 20 cattle, 35 sheep a year in Montana. How many die from other causes?

And, the ranchers are compensated for them.

dbackjon wrote:Over its 20-year history, the Defenders of Wildlife have made 276 payments to Montanans totaling more than $317,000 for 336 cattle, 689 sheep, 16 livestock dogs and 15 other animals, including mules and llamas.

In 2007, the group spent more than $81,000 for projects that used nonlethal deterrents to reduce conflicts between wolves and livestock. More than half of that - $48,000 in total - was spent in Montana.

The Defenders program compensated ranchers

100 percent for confirmed wolf kills and 50 percent for animals that were probably killed by wolves.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture's Wildlife Services Division investigated and confirmed livestock losses under Defenders' program and will continue that work when the state takes over.

Edwards said Defenders of Wildlife did a “great job” in forging strong partnerships between public and private interests. The state hopes to build on that success.

“This is a program that's good for wolves and good for ranchers,” he said. “I think we're going to find that people want to support it.”

The next step includes getting administrative rules for the board and program resolved. The draft rules will be published and opened for public comment in about a month.

Edwards said the board will not get involved in wolf management issues.

“The reimbursement program is called for in the state's wolf management plan, but the board won't get involved in wolf management decisions,” Edwards said. “We leave that to the experts at Fish, Wildlife and Parks.”

http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2008 ... news02.txt

So, Wolves take on average 20 cattle, 35 sheep a year in Montana. How many die from other causes?

And, the ranchers are compensated for them.

The rest of them.

The causes I listed above are from the National Agriculture Statistics Service.

houndawg wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
What the hell you talking about?? Get a f**k[*] clue before you chime in on the Wolf problem we are currently having.

Oh please. Wolves account for a miniscule fraction of cattle losses. What kills cattle out there is about the same as what kills them here - respiratory and digestive problems and calving complications. Predators account for maybe 5% of livestock losses and the vast majority of predator losses are due to coyotes and domestic dogs. Lightning gets far more cattle than wolves. Thieves steal more cattle than wolves take.

Who said one fucking word about cattle. Wash your eyes out.

grizzaholic wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Oh please. Wolves account for a miniscule fraction of cattle losses. What kills cattle out there is about the same as what kills them here - respiratory and digestive problems and calving complications. Predators account for maybe 5% of livestock losses and the vast majority of predator losses are due to coyotes and domestic dogs. Lightning gets far more cattle than wolves. Thieves steal more cattle than wolves take.

Who said one fucking word about cattle. Wash your eyes out.

Sorry man, that's one of the main arguments that the anti-wolf extremists (AZ, cough cough) use.

grizzaholic wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Oh please. Wolves account for a miniscule fraction of cattle losses. What kills cattle out there is about the same as what kills them here - respiratory and digestive problems and calving complications. Predators account for maybe 5% of livestock losses and the vast majority of predator losses are due to coyotes and domestic dogs. Lightning gets far more cattle than wolves. Thieves steal more cattle than wolves take.

Who said one f**k[*] word about cattle. Wash your eyes out.

Sorry. Didn't know the standard whine had been changed. Sounds like the lion hunters need some tougher hounds.

houndawg wrote:

grizzaholic wrote:
Who said one f**k[*] word about cattle. Wash your eyes out.

Sorry. Didn't know the standard whine had been changed. Sounds like the lion hunters need some tougher hounds.

Get real.

grizzaholic wrote:

houndawg wrote:
Sorry. Didn't know the standard whine had been changed. Sounds like the lion hunters need some tougher hounds.

Get real.

Coyotes pick pick off domestic animals all the time around here and no one is calling for their elimination, not even Junior Throgmorton, and he's a coyote hatin' sumbitch.