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Hundreds of Iranian troops have arrived in Syria in the last 10 days and will soon join government forces and their Lebanese Hezbollah allies in a major ground offensive backed by Russian air strikes, two Lebanese sources told Reuters.

"The (Russian) air strikes will in the near future be accompanied by ground advances by the Syrian army and its allies," said one of the sources familiar with political and military developments in the conflict.

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So what happens when Russia and US fighters square off?

You haven't heard? We're buddies with them fellas....1980 called-it want's its foreign policy back.

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HUNDREDS of Iranian troops? WWIII it is!

Grizalltheway wrote:HUNDREDS of Iranian troops? WWIII it is!

Cannon fodder proxies for the Russkies. The babushkas back in St. Petersburg don't want their sons coming home in coffins.

Ivytalk wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote:HUNDREDS of Iranian troops? WWIII it is!

Cannon fodder proxies for the Russkies. The babushkas back in St. Petersburg don't want their sons coming home in coffins.

Beat me to it. This is another proxy war that will cost billions. It will waste time, money, lives & material and when it's "over" nothing will be for the better.

With all this tension, you almost want something to happen so we can get it on with the world. If we're fighting an ideology and a foe like ISIS, then let's fight them. We probably won't "win" but let's do it. Let's not waste $$$ training Syrians to do it. They are obviously not up to the task.

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Depending on who you ask, World War 3 has already occurred. Some scholars consider the Cold War to be WW3. Others, the Global War on Terror. Didn't Iraq this year state that the war against ISIS is WW3 due to the global involvement?

Its nice to see Russia shoveling money into a furnace once again...
Usually we're the ones so excited to ignite tax dollars

Chizzang wrote:Its nice to see Russia shoveling money into a furnace once again...
Usually we're the ones so excited to ignite tax dollars

If we could just get the Chinese to do a little of the same.

Putin is absolutely manhandling US foreign policy with Syria. "Move your jets, we're coming in to bomb the troops you're funding" and we oblige.

ASUG8 wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Its nice to see Russia shoveling money into a furnace once again...
Usually we're the ones so excited to ignite tax dollars

If we could just get the Chinese to do a little of the same.

Putin is absolutely manhandling US foreign policy with Syria. "Move your jets, we're coming in to bomb the troops you're funding" and we oblige.

Sure... why not
Bomb 'em all - and hit the reset button in 12 months
and start over

We've knda been doing that since Sykes Picot 1917

I'm all for Russia's involvement. Let their crumbling economy spend the $$ to fight that civil war & let their soldiers/pilots get shipped home in coffins. Why we would be involved in Syria is just silly.

Ive been saying "do nothing" all along

not only do we have a muslim civil war, but even the Russians want to bleed themselves

why we would make even a peep over this is beyond me

CID1990 wrote:Ive been saying "do nothing" all along

not only do we have a muslim civil war, but even the Russians want to bleed themselves

why we would make even a peep over this is beyond me

Because....'Merica?

AZGrizFan wrote:You haven't heard? We're buddies with them fellas....1980 called-it want's its foreign policy back.

I have no problem attacking the Sovs and their no-maintenance ship policy. We'll DESTROY them...and that won't even require resorting to nukes....

CID1990 wrote:Ive been saying "do nothing" all along

not only do we have a muslim civil war, but even the Russians want to bleed themselves

why we would make even a peep over this is beyond me

We never seemed to have any concrete stance on Syria anyway, sort of like most other involvement in the ME. Help Assad gain power? Check. Fund the rebels against the regime to destabilize it? Check. Draw some red lines and dare anyone to cross, then blink? Check. Step aside while the Russians prop Assad back up? Check.

I hate it for the innocents trying to get out of the way of the civil war, but I really don't care if the remaining rebels, Iranians, Russians, Assad, and Isis all beat each other to a bloody pulp once the populace has immigrated elsewhere.

Chizzang wrote:

ASUG8 wrote:
If we could just get the Chinese to do a little of the same.

Putin is absolutely manhandling US foreign policy with Syria. "Move your jets, we're coming in to bomb the troops you're funding" and we oblige.

Sure... why not
Bomb 'em all - and hit the reset button in 12 months
and start over

We've knda been doing that since Sykes Picot 1917

I fail to see why we should be happy about Russia not only supporting, but basically fighting the war for the dictator we, America, says absolutely has to be out of power to have any chance for stability and peace in the region. And then, on top of that, have Russia come in, and on day 1, blast the crap out of the guys that we've been financially and operationally supporting for the past year and our basic response to them erradicating the guys we think are the good guys is "hey, come on, stop that!".

Russia's economic fortunes are not going to ebb or flow based on their coming to the rescue of Assad - it's not really going to take that much. However, Putin's own support, both at home and in the parts of the world that are coming around to liking him and the power he provides, are on the uptick. Russia may be screwed by the fortunes of oil, but that doesn't mean they will crumble like the USSR did.

GannonFan wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Sure... why not
Bomb 'em all - and hit the reset button in 12 months
and start over

We've knda been doing that since Sykes Picot 1917

I fail to see why we should be happy about Russia not only supporting, but basically fighting the war for the dictator we, America, says absolutely has to be out of power to have any chance for stability and peace in the region. And then, on top of that, have Russia come in, and on day 1, blast the crap out of the guys that we've been financially and operationally supporting for the past year and our basic response to them erradicating the guys we think are the good guys is "hey, come on, stop that!".

Russia's economic fortunes are not going to ebb or flow based on their coming to the rescue of Assad - it's not really going to take that much. However, Putin's own support, both at home and in the parts of the world that are coming around to liking him and the power he provides, are on the uptick. Russia may be screwed by the fortunes of oil, but that doesn't mean they will crumble like the USSR did.

Why shouldn't we be happy?

We should not have been in the in the first place.

It is comical that we tell the world that we don't like a leader, that he has to be removed, and then we provide guns, training, on the ground military support, air support, and ammunition to his opponents (the ones trying to kill him). Same thing we did in Libya...how'd that turn out?

We continue to prop up a creep in Afghanistan (they just lost control of a major city to the supposedly defeated Taliban...how does that happen again), and just recently supported the brutal and deadly crushing of a democratic protest in Bahrain, and evicted a democratically elected President of Egypt, and we're supporting a Saudi attack on Yemen...the same Saudis that kill women for all sorts of what they call unacceptable behavior...all while decrying the bad boy Assad.

This refugee crisis is almost entirely our fault. Certainly the Libyan refugees are directly the fault of Europe and Obama because they decided to use purposely false and trumped up information (that Ghaddafi was executing civilians and turning places into bloodbaths of the innocent...which turned out to be wildly untrue - WMD's Part Deux) to turn Libya into a shitpile worse than Iraq. Follow that up with a similar strategy regarding Syria, and we have displaced over a million people, and killed hundreds of thousands people, simply because we didn't like a couple of country's leaders.

No one can seriously defend our actions with a straight face while protesting the Russian actions.

Our oil stockpiles are near all time highs. If there is ever a time to tolerate Middle East "instability", it is now.

You Go, Comrades.