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WTF..?
Last go round the Republicans brought forth a Mormon
Now we've got a 7th Day Adventist in Ben Carson



Seriously the Republican Party is looking nuttier than a jar of Crunchy Style Jiff
What's next a Scientologist..?

You're confusing Scientology with Mormonism.

[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XQjr0b3sfqE[/youtube]

It's as if one of those culty papists like Kennedy is running again or something

And the Donks favor making things as difficult as possible for any religious believers of any stripe, unless you happen to be a Muslin. In that case, you're practically in a Constitutionally protected class.

Ivytalk wrote:And the Donks favor making things as difficult as possible for any religious believers of any stripe, unless you happen to be a Muslin. In that case, you're practically in a Constitutionally protected class.

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion,- as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen...... by Jove I think you're right!

Ivytalk wrote:And the Donks favor making things as difficult as possible for any religious believers of any stripe, unless you happen to be a Muslin. In that case, you're practically in a Constitutionally protected class.

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion,- as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen...... by Jove I think you're right!

Obama survived Jeremiah Wright by resigning from his church.

Chizzang wrote:WTF..?
Last go round the Republicans brought forth a Mormon
Now we've got a 7th Day Adventist in Ben Carson



Seriously the Republican Party is looking nuttier than a jar of Crunchy Style Jiff
What's next a Scientologist..?

Dear Chizzy,
Please provide a list of Religions that, in your opinion, are NOT "Nut-Ball" so that we can appease you.
Thank you,
GOP

houndawg wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:And the Donks favor making things as difficult as possible for any religious believers of any stripe, unless you happen to be a Muslin. In that case, you're practically in a Constitutionally protected class.

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion,- as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen...... by Jove I think you're right!

Wow -- "Musselmen." Shades of the Barbary pirates.

Ivytalk wrote:

houndawg wrote:

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion,- as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen...... by Jove I think you're right!

Wow -- "Musselmen." Shades of the Barbary pirates.

And the lunatic atheists, feminists, environmentals and homos rule the Democrats.


Ho-hum.

andy7171 wrote:And the lunatic atheists, feminists, environmentals and homos rule the Democrats.


Ho-hum.

Attaboy, andy!

andy7171 wrote:And the lunatic atheists, feminists, environmentals and homos rule the Democrats.


Ho-hum.

Hillary is ruled by corporate America, dummy.

Oh...wait...

kalm wrote:

andy7171 wrote:And the lunatic atheists, feminists, environmentals and homos rule the Democrats.


Ho-hum.

Hillary is ruled by corporate America, dummy.

Oh...wait...

So when is Bernie going to go after Her Entitledness on that very point?

andy7171 wrote:And the lunatic atheists, feminists, environmentals and homos rule the Democrats.


Ho-hum.

Mostly just the Homo's as I understand it...

Chizzang wrote:

andy7171 wrote:And the lunatic atheists, feminists, environmentals and homos rule the Democrats.


Ho-hum.

Mostly just the Homo's as I understand it...

Way too uppity if you ask me. dback is Hillary's AZ press agent.

Chizzang wrote:

andy7171 wrote:And the lunatic atheists, feminists, environmentals and homos rule the Democrats.


Ho-hum.

Mostly just the Homo's as I understand it...

Their hatred of anything Christian has them aligned somehow with defending the Muslins. Which is very very odd.

The phrase cutting off your nose to spite your face comes to mind.

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion,- as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen......

That statement from the Treaty of Tripoli is not some great Statement about the nature of the United States. It's something placed into a treaty at the time because it was advantageous to do so. As you can read at https://w3nws.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/ ... -say-this/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; you can find another United States treaty that began with this:

In the Name of the most holy and undivided Trinity.

That's invoking Christianity. Acting as though a Statement from one treaty in which some diplomat responsible for writing the treaty wrote something to make Muslims happy is some kind of definitive confirmation that Christianity was not involved in the genesis of the United States is absurd. It's done all the time. You see that quote all over the place. But it's ridiculous.

JohnStOnge wrote:

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion,- as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen......

That statement from the Treaty of Tripoli is not some great Statement about the nature of the United States. It's something placed into a treaty at the time because it was advantageous to do so. As you can read at https://w3nws.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/ ... -say-this/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; you can find another United States treaty that began with this:

In the Name of the most holy and undivided Trinity.

That's invoking Christianity. Acting as though a Statement from one treaty in which some diplomat responsible for writing the treaty wrote something to make Muslims happy is some kind of definitive confirmation that Christianity was not involved in the genesis of the United States is absurd. It's done all the time. You see that quote all over the place. But it's ridiculous.

But the government still isn't supposed to establish a state religion, right?

None of the religions mentioned are more "nut ball" than Secular Humanism. And that's what the Democratic Party is tied to.

JohnStOnge wrote:None of the religions mentioned are more "nut ball" than Secular Humanism. And that's what the Democratic Party is tied to.

Seriously, what's nut ball about secular humanism? I've never met one but it would seem
They'd be quite reasonable people. Is there something dastardly I'm missing?

I like how we're in a debate (started by clitz no less) over how over a wide range of belief systems- all based on blind faith- can have differing degrees of nutballishness

I see nothing any more or less wacky about the followers of Brigham Young, the belief that women should be shrouded, the Pope is god's personal dude, or that Jesus got up and walked around after being nailed up like a playbill.

I'm not sure what I prefer... someone unafraid to defend their blind faith, or someone like Bill Clinton who falsely parades it "this is between me, my family, and our God"

I like Carson's honesty

I doubt his ability to muck things up any more than a Clinton, a Trump or an Obama

JohnStOnge wrote:you can find another United States treaty that began with this:

In the Name of the most holy and undivided Trinity.

That was written in 1783.

You know... before the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were even conceived.

Under the Articles of Confederation, many states had their own official religion. You had to be, for instance, Episcopalian to hold office in the state of Virginia.

I tell you all the time that the country you long for was the United States under the Articles of Confederation. (see also: lack of federal judiciary and Supreme Court under the Articles ).

CID1990 wrote:I like how we're in a debate (started by clitz no less) over how over a wide range of belief systems- all based on blind faith- can have differing degrees of nutballishness

I see nothing any more or less wacky about the followers of Brigham Young, the belief that women should be shrouded, the Pope is god's personal dude, or that Jesus got up and walked around after being nailed up like a playbill.

I'm not sure what I prefer... someone unafraid to defend their blind faith, or someone like Bill Clinton who falsely parades it "this is between me, my family, and our God"

I like Carson's honesty

I doubt his ability to muck things up any more than a Clinton, a Trump or an Obama

Holy underwear..!!!
I gotta get me some

The argument is simple Cha Chi so try to follow along
Ancient religions - such as Catholicism - are shrouded in mystery
as well as having a long history of being handed down from generation to generation

Mormonism - for example - is NOT at all shrouded in mystery
Virtually every single aspect if its history and creation are known
from the convicted swindler who created it to the make-it-up-as we-go along rule book

Any adult who actually believes in Mormonism is by default exposing an element of STUPIDITY
in the same way any adult who gets suckered into a Ponzi Scheme

Yes you can be a smart guy and get suckered
But due diligence is a minimum requirement for one to be truly considered "Smart"

7th Day Adventists and Mormons require a level of personal delusion
and a true lack of insight that I will not dismiss and lump in with Catholics
Particularly these days as the Catholic Church is showing remarkable insight and judgment

Chizzang wrote:

CID1990 wrote:I like how we're in a debate (started by clitz no less) over how over a wide range of belief systems- all based on blind faith- can have differing degrees of nutballishness

I see nothing any more or less wacky about the followers of Brigham Young, the belief that women should be shrouded, the Pope is god's personal dude, or that Jesus got up and walked around after being nailed up like a playbill.

I'm not sure what I prefer... someone unafraid to defend their blind faith, or someone like Bill Clinton who falsely parades it "this is between me, my family, and our God"

I like Carson's honesty

I doubt his ability to muck things up any more than a Clinton, a Trump or an Obama

Holy underwear..!!!
I gotta get me some

The argument is simple Cha Chi so try to follow along
Ancient religions - such as Catholicism - are shrouded in mystery
as well as having a long history of being handed down from generation to generation

Mormonism - for example - is NOT at all shrouded in mystery
Virtually every single aspect if its history and creation are known
from the convicted swindler who created it to the make-it-up-as we-go along rule book

Any adult who actually believes in Mormonism is by default exposing an element of STUPIDITY
in the same way any adult who gets suckered into a Ponzi Scheme

Yes you can be a smart guy and get suckered
But due diligence is a minimum requirement for one to be truly considered "Smart"

7th Day Adventists and Mormons require a level of personal delusion
and a true lack of insight that I will not dismiss and lump in with Catholics
Particularly these days as the Catholic Church is showing remarkable insight and judgment

ah ok I get it

you need that 2000 year veneer on your magical bearded feller in the sky until he can be declared legit

you become less imaginary and are promoted to the rank of Mystical +2 (cold and dark magic resistance)

so sayeth Clitoris