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Tough day for the Conks!

Details about Ben Carson's offer to attend the U.S. Military Academy at West Point on a "full scholarship" came into question Friday after a report that he fabricated a story about being admitted to the service academy.



Carson's campaign confirmed to NBC News that the surging Republican presidential candidate never applied to the elite academy, despite writing in his 1996 book "Gifted Hands" that he was "offered a full scholarship to West Point" after attending a dinner where he was introduced to West Point personnel by his ROTC supervisors.



Responding to the report from Politico, Ben Carson told the New York Times: "I don't remember all the specific details.




Because I had done so extraordinarily well you know I was told that someone like me - they could get a scholarship to West Point. But I made it clear I was going to pursue a career in medicine."

"It was, you know, an informal 'with a record like yours we could easily get you a scholarship to West Point,'" he added.

The retired neurosurgeon did not specifically say in his book that he applied to West Point, in fact he wrote that the only school he applied to was the one he ultimately attended -- Yale.

But the confusion about a key biographical detail comes as other well-known tales of Carson's youth are being questioned, including his story about almost stabbing a friend in his early teens.



West Point does not offer "full scholarships." All costs are covered for applicants who are offered admission.



Conks, Conks, Conks, Conks............ Shame!





"West Point, Yale, Western Illinois - what the fvck's the difference?"

Racist. Isn't that how it works?

West Point offers scholarships???

Carson is nuttier than a jar of crunchy Jif...



He makes Jill Stein look normal and I'm well aware she's a dingbat

When I was in basic, I took an aptitude test and when I was receiving my results, I was asked if I wanted to attend West Point. When a guy who acts and treats you much differently than your drill sergeant pulls you into a room and asks if you want to go, you assume it is a possibility. Besides, my typical entrance exams met requirements as well.

I assume if Carson got into med school, his results would have gotten him admitted to West Point.

Story is over. Storm lasted a few hours, but the MSM is backing off the story he lied.

As the Supreme Court observed in a case called Masson, even a quote, accurate in its wording, can be false and defamatory when taken out of context.

In his autobiography, Carson never said he applied to WP. He said he applied to Yale, and it was the only college to which he applied.

Chizzang wrote:Carson is nuttier than a jar of crunchy Jif...



He makes Jill Stein look normal and I'm well aware she's a dingbat

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JoltinJoe wrote: He said he applied to Yale, and it was the only college to which he applied.

That alone is cause for concern.

Hhmmm…so a presidential candidate that held no public office lies and suddenly it’s a big deal….the former SOS who is also running for president is proved to lie to all of America and it’s not a big deal…interesting.

Abandon Thread!!!!!



Cappy's down for the count!!!

JoltinJoe wrote:Story is over. Storm lasted a few hours, but the MSM is backing off the story he lied.

As the Supreme Court observed in a case called Masson, even a quote, accurate in its wording, can be false and defamatory when taken out of context.

In his autobiography, Carson never said he applied to WP. He said he applied to Yale, and it was the only college to which he applied.

Did he say he was offered a full scholarship? If so, that's a lie. That implies he applied.

Baldy wrote:Abandon Thread!!!!!



Cappy's down for the count!!!

Cap'n hasn't gotten to 2012 in his readings yet

Ibanez wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote:Story is over. Storm lasted a few hours, but the MSM is backing off the story he lied.

As the Supreme Court observed in a case called Masson, even a quote, accurate in its wording, can be false and defamatory when taken out of context.

In his autobiography, Carson never said he applied to WP. He said he applied to Yale, and it was the only college to which he applied.

Did he say he was offered a full scholarship? If so, that's a lie. That implies he applied.

Ummm, no it doesn't.

Academic elites are not much different than elite athletes. Football players are "offered full scholarships" without ever applying to a certain school. The same thing holds true for elite students as well. A friend of ours daughter met with several Ivy League school officials and every one offered her full academic scholarships before she applied to any of them.

Ivytalk wrote:

JoltinJoe wrote: He said he applied to Yale, and it was the only college to which he applied.

That alone is cause for concern.

And there are other causes for concern. He's a Yale grad who thinks the world is 6,000 years old and the pyramids were built to be granaries.

But the debate is about whether he actually applied to West Point?

I think Carson's problem actually is he is too honest. Like when he was asked a few days ago if he still believed Joseph built the pyramids, he should have lied and said, "No way, man. I was on my feet that day talking, and I had just finished 22 hours straight in the OR, and I don't know what the hell I was saying."

Baldy wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Did he say he was offered a full scholarship? If so, that's a lie. That implies he applied.

Ummm, no it doesn't.

Academic elites are not much different than elite athletes. Football players are "offered full scholarships" without ever applying to a certain school. The same thing holds true for elite students as well. A friend of ours daughter met with several Ivy League school officials and every one offered her full academic scholarships before she applied to any of them.

Carson's account of what happened is consistent with the experiences of many others.

It nice to see the conks have evolved to the point where they haven't once accused Carson of getting his schooling because of quotas.

JoltinJoe wrote: I think Carson's problem actually is he is too honest. Like when he was asked a few days ago if he still believed Joseph built the pyramids, he should have lied and said, "No way, man. I was on my feet that day talking, and I had just finished 22 hours straight in the OR, and I don't know what the hell I was saying."

Funny, yet unfortunately true.

Maybe he should just get his records sealed to avoid all this...

LeadBolt wrote:Maybe he should just get his records sealed to avoid all this...

There's no way he could away with that.

LeadBolt wrote:Maybe he should just get his records sealed to avoid all this...

Maybe he should stop being such a nut ball ...

JoltinJoe wrote:

Baldy wrote: Ummm, no it doesn't.

Academic elites are not much different than elite athletes. Football players are "offered full scholarships" without ever applying to a certain school. The same thing holds true for elite students as well. A friend of ours daughter met with several Ivy League school officials and every one offered her full academic scholarships before she applied to any of them.

Carson's account of what happened is consistent with the experiences of many others.

Yes, many others who need to jazz up a biography, pick up a girl or impress someone.

He intentionally exaggerated the account to fluff up a story. If he didn't, then he's ignorant as to how the military schools operate. Either way, he's a cad.

Check this out:

http://nation.foxnews.com/dreams-my-fat ... -obama-bio" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And this:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... not-treat/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Finally this:

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-gr ... raphy-and-" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The reason I brought those up is Carson's assertion that the mainstream media didn't seem to be as concerned about Obama not exactly being accurate about his life story as they are about him doing it.

JohnStOnge wrote:Check this out:

http://nation.foxnews.com/dreams-my-fat ... -obama-bio" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And this:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... not-treat/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Finally this:

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-gr ... raphy-and-" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The reason I brought those up is Carson's assertion that the mainstream media didn't seem to be as concerned about Obama not exactly being accurate about his life story as they are about him doing it.

Yet another incorrect assertion by the good doctor.

We're into our 10th year of "The Great Birth Certificate Hoax".

houndawg wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:Check this out:

http://nation.foxnews.com/dreams-my-fat ... -obama-bio" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And this:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... not-treat/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Finally this:

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-gr ... raphy-and-" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The reason I brought those up is Carson's assertion that the mainstream media didn't seem to be as concerned about Obama not exactly being accurate about his life story as they are about him doing it.

Yet another incorrect assertion by the good doctor.

We're into our 10th year of "The Great Birth Certificate Hoax".

I don't think there is a law regarding lies about scholarships in a book.
But I think there is a law about being born in the US for Presidents.

CAA Flagship wrote:

houndawg wrote:

Yet another incorrect assertion by the good doctor.

We're into our 10th year of "The Great Birth Certificate Hoax".

I don't think there is a law regarding lies about scholarships in a book.
But I think there is a law about being born in the US for Presidents.

I rest my case.