Syrian Refugees

[kalm]

Saw a map on the news this morning of states refusing refugees. It looked pretty darned red.

Shep Smith to these governors: GTFO!

Fox News anchor Shepard Smith delivered a commentary Monday afternoon in which he scolded the various state governors who decided to bar refugees from their states in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Paris.

Without specifically mentioning the governors, Smith said the U.S. has a responsibility to protect the values on which the nation was founded, warning that “political extremists” could lead the country to “self-destruction.”

“In the face of terror, will we panic, or be calm and deliberative in approach?” Smith said. “Confronted with those who want to change our way of life, will we abandon our freedoms and the rights granted to us by the Creator?”

In his commentary, Smith suggested that the U.S. must “welcome huddled masses yearning to breathe free,” referring to refugees attempting to escape their war-torn countries of origin. He also warned against taking “extreme measures to fundamentally alter who and what we are.”

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[CAA Flagship]

Clearly these Governors don't trust the Government to do this correctly. And they won't.

That being said, everyone is saying that the States can't block the refugees.

But I don't understand why we can't just put up a chunk of money to support them somewhere else.

[CAA Flagship]

The White House plans a conference call with governors about plans to increase the number of refugees accepted in the United States after governors raised concerns that terrorists might use the refugees as cover to sneak across borders.

Spokesmen for the governors of Michigan and Arizona say the call is planned for 5 p.m. EST Tuesday.

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Heh. Who knew the White House had a conference call system, or even a phone? Obama will need instructions on how to operate it.

[Pwns]

"Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free"

I'm sure most of Syrians are fleeing because they are tired of religious extremism and not because that country is being torn apart by war and social upheaval.

[kalm]

"Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free"

I'm sure most of Syrians are fleeing because they are tired of religious extremism and not because that country is being torn apart by war and social upheaval.

It's Fox News...old timey phrases and keywords like "free" trend well with their audience.

[GrizFanStuckInUtah]

Clearly these Governors don't trust the Government to do this correctly. And they won't.

That being said, everyone is saying that the States can't block the refugees.

But I don't understand why we can't just put up a chunk of money to support them somewhere else.

Maybe we can pick one of these and make everyone happy?

[dbackjon]

Clearly these Governors don't trust the Government to do this correctly. And they won't.

That being said, everyone is saying that the States can't block the refugees.

But I don't understand why we can't just put up a chunk of money to support them somewhere else.

They have been screening refugees from Syria for several years now - takes a long time. They are not letting just anyone in - it's been families, people with relatives already here, etc.


And we are paying to support the millions in refugee camps in Turkey, Jordan, etc. Those are breeding grounds for ISIS

[CAA Flagship]

Clearly these Governors don't trust the Government to do this correctly. And they won't.

That being said, everyone is saying that the States can't block the refugees.

But I don't understand why we can't just put up a chunk of money to support them somewhere else.

They have been screening refugees from Syria for several years now - takes a long time. They are not letting just anyone in - it's been families, people with relatives already here, etc.


And we are paying to support the millions in refugee camps in Turkey, Jordan, etc. Those are breeding grounds for ISIS

So other countries like Turkey, Jordan, Germany, etc. have millions of these refugees, and they are going to let the US cherry pick the "best and brightest"? Ha

[Grizalltheway]

They can't fucking walk here like they can to Germany, Turkey, Jordan etc.

[dbackjon]

They have been screening refugees from Syria for several years now - takes a long time. They are not letting just anyone in - it's been families, people with relatives already here, etc.


And we are paying to support the millions in refugee camps in Turkey, Jordan, etc. Those are breeding grounds for ISIS

So other countries like Turkey, Jordan, Germany, etc. have millions of these refugees, and they are going to let the US cherry pick the "best and brightest"? Ha

Actually yes...

[Ibanez]

I'm so sick of people replying to comments or questions about accepting immigrants with The New Colossus. As if a sonnet is/should be the basis for our immigration policy. I'm all for compassion, but let's be realistic.

[Ibanez]

Clearly these Governors don't trust the Government to do this correctly. And they won't.

That being said, everyone is saying that the States can't block the refugees.

But I don't understand why we can't just put up a chunk of money to support them somewhere else.

They have been screening refugees from Syria for several years now - takes a long time. They are not letting just anyone in - it's been families, people with relatives already here, etc.


And we are paying to support the millions in refugee camps in Turkey, Jordan, etc. Those are breeding grounds for ISIS

I'll take " Gross Understatements" for $800, Alex. I was listening to some State Department spokesperson describe the process. It's a mess. By the time you get a medical check, your security check has been expired and needs to be redone. In that time, your background check has also expired so you get that check re-done...then more checks expire, get redone, etc.... I'm surprised anyone gets in.

[Cap'n Cat]

What Would Jesus Do?

[Gil Dobie]

Jesus would let them in.

[Cap'n Cat]

Xenophobia: a critical hallmark of Conkservatism.

[Ibanez]

What Would Jesus Do?

Refugees are human. So are the pricks that will exploit compassion to inflict damage. It's a tough question. Are American lives worth more than Syrian lives? Is the risk of accepting 10,000 refugess worth it if one or two of them murder X number of Americans and create more havoc, panic and fear?

It's a quagmire.



Giggity.

[∞∞∞]

I mean it's cliche to say, but we only validate terrorism if we let fear overtake compassion. We can't let faceless assholes from a backward cult from halfway around the world take away our humanity.

[Baldy]

France allowing Syrian refugees worked out well for them.

[Baldy]

Saw a map on the news this morning of states refusing refugees. It looked pretty darned red.

Shep Smith to these governors: GTFO!

Fox News anchor Shepard Smith delivered a commentary Monday afternoon in which he scolded the various state governors who decided to bar refugees from their states in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Paris.

Without specifically mentioning the governors, Smith said the U.S. has a responsibility to protect the values on which the nation was founded, warning that “political extremists” could lead the country to “self-destruction.”

“In the face of terror, will we panic, or be calm and deliberative in approach?” Smith said. “Confronted with those who want to change our way of life, will we abandon our freedoms and the rights granted to us by the Creator?”

In his commentary, Smith suggested that the U.S. must “welcome huddled masses yearning to breathe free,” referring to refugees attempting to escape their war-torn countries of origin. He also warned against taking “extreme measures to fundamentally alter who and what we are.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-shep-sm ... ho-we-are/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pfffffffft...Faux News. Can't believe anything they say.

[CAA Flagship]

So other countries like Turkey, Jordan, Germany, etc. have millions of these refugees, and they are going to let the US cherry pick the "best and brightest"? Ha

Actually yes...

Bullshit.

So we are going to pay to get them here, transport them to the appropriate locations, and pay for their food and housing (for how long?). The US dollar is as strong as it has been in many years. I would rather give them the money it would cost us to do the above. The dollar will go a lot farther anywhere else.

[Ivytalk]

Hardly any Syrians want to come here. The European press says they regard Germany as the promised land.

[Grizalltheway]

Hardly any Syrians want to come here. The European press says they regard Germany as the promised land.

Oh how times have changed.

[Ibanez]

I mean it's cliche to say, but we only validate terrorism if we let fear overtake compassion. We can't let faceless assholes from a backward cult from halfway around the world take away our humanity.

That's so 1941.

[93henfan]

[Ivytalk]

Hardly any Syrians want to come here. The European press says they regard Germany as the promised land.

Oh how times have changed.

Look, the European record proves that those people don't assimilate. Even here, they ghettoize themselves in enclaves like Dearborn and Minneapolis. So what would be different this time? Nothing. Keep them out. Let the ME countries take them in.