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Aside from the obvious grandstanding and pontificating, I like this idea....

Senator suggests AIG execs should kill themselves

IOWA CITY, Iowa – Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley suggested that AIG executives should take a Japanese approach toward accepting responsibility for the collapse of the insurance giant by resigning or killing themselves.....

...."I suggest, you know, obviously, maybe they ought to be removed," Grassley said. "But I would suggest the first thing that would make me feel a little bit better toward them if they'd follow the Japanese example and come before the American people and take that deep bow and say, I'm sorry, and then either do one of two things: resign or go commit suicide.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090317/ap_ ... assley_aig

Now, if we could only get politicians to follow this advice as well......

I wonder if he will receive any backlash for that I think it is awesome he said it.

Fuggn' cool, fuggn' funny.

Iowan's are cool as hell.

Agreed. Not a big fan of Grassley's but one of the first quotes I've seen from someone on the hill that accurately reflects the sentiment of Americans.
Anyone who is heavily vested on Wall Street and lost 30-50% of their life savings or entire estate value I will guarantee shares that sentiment.

Now...how does America impart that same frustraton to Pelosi and Reid who are scampering around concocting more schemes to spend our tax dollars, while cooking up the largest "tax" increase in the past 45 years with their Cap and Tax plan.

Just writng this makes me want to throw up.

What great ideas have your buddies McConnell and the rest of the Republican leadership come up with to get us out of this mess?

Opposing everything without offering solutions is NOT A PLAN.

dbackjon wrote:What great ideas have your buddies McConnell and the rest of the Republican leadership come up with to get us out of this mess?

Opposing everything without offering solutions is NOT A PLAN.

Cut taxes. Don't raise them. Invest in the private sector, don't steal from it.

I realize that's a complex concept...

dbackjon wrote:What great ideas have your buddies McConnell and the rest of the Republican leadership come up with to get us out of this mess?

Opposing everything without offering solutions is NOT A PLAN.

That's exactly what I was saying about Iraq circa 05 - 07. The Democrats pulled the same crap, except for Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul. They both said, stop funding and come home. This is not a party issue, it's a broken Washington issue.

travelinman67 wrote:

dbackjon wrote:What great ideas have your buddies McConnell and the rest of the Republican leadership come up with to get us out of this mess?

Opposing everything without offering solutions is NOT A PLAN.

Cut taxes. Don't raise them. Invest in the private sector, don't steal from it.

I realize that's a complex concept...

Taxes were already cut for many sectors below what they should have been. It didn't help the economy long term.

Isn't the stimulus package (for the banks, etc) investing in the private sector?

And isn't the private sector the ones doing the stealing?

ASUMountaineer wrote:

dbackjon wrote:What great ideas have your buddies McConnell and the rest of the Republican leadership come up with to get us out of this mess?

Opposing everything without offering solutions is NOT A PLAN.

That's exactly what I was saying about Iraq circa 05 - 07. The Democrats pulled the same crap, except for Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul. They both said, stop funding and come home. This is not a party issue, it's a broken Washington issue.

Mostly right.

The only problem is if the Democrats had voted against the Iraqi War spending, Fox, T-man, AZGriz etc would have spent the next two years showing that as proof as to how much the Democrats hated the military and America.

dbackjon wrote:

travelinman67 wrote:
Cut taxes. Don't raise them. Invest in the private sector, don't steal from it.

I realize that's a complex concept...

Taxes were already cut for many sectors below what they should have been. It didn't help the economy long term.

Isn't the stimulus package (for the banks, etc) investing in the private sector?

And isn't the private sector the ones doing the stealing?

One of our great Presidents said all of the following. He lowered taxes, and was proven right as tax revenues actually increased.

"It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now ... Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus."

"It is no contradiction – the most important single thing we can do to stimulate investment in today's economy is to raise consumption by major reduction of individual income tax rates."

"Our tax system still siphons out of the private economy too large a share of personal and business purchasing power and reduces the incentive for risk, investment and effort – thereby aborting our recoveries and stifling our national growth rate."

"A tax cut means higher family income and higher business profits and a balanced federal budget. Every taxpayer and his family will have more money left over after taxes for a new car, a new home, new conveniences, education and investment. Every businessman can keep a higher percentage of his profits in his cash register or put it to work expanding or improving his business, and as the national income grows, the federal government will ultimately end up with more revenues."



"Lower rates of taxation will stimulate economic activity and so raise the levels of personal and corporate income as to yield within a few years an increased – not a reduced – flow of revenues to the federal government."

"In today's economy, fiscal prudence and responsibility call for tax reduction even if it temporarily enlarges the federal deficit – why reducing taxes is the best way open to us to increase revenues."

"The largest single barrier to full employment of our manpower and resources and to a higher rate of economic growth is the unrealistically heavy drag of federal income taxes on private purchasing power, initiative and incentive."

"A bill will be presented to the Congress for action next year. It will include an across-the-board, top-to-bottom cut in both corporate and personal income taxes. It will include long-needed tax reform that logic and equity demand ... The billions of dollars this bill will place in the hands of the consumer and our businessmen will have both immediate and permanent benefits to our economy. Every dollar released from taxation that is spent or invested will help create a new job and a new salary. And these new jobs and new salaries can create other jobs and other salaries and more customers and more growth for an expanding American economy."

Yes Joe, I know that JFK said that.

But the tax rates were FAR different than today. The top tax rate was what - 70%? That is excessive and counter productive.

Bush cut the top rate 3-5% - not the same as cutting it 20% or more.


But that same quote, out of complete context, has been used to cut tax rates ever since.

dbackjon wrote:Yes Joe, I know that JFK said that.

But the tax rates were FAR different than today. The top tax rate was what - 70%? That is excessive and counter productive.

Bush cut the top rate 3-5% - not the same as cutting it 20% or more.


But that same quote, out of complete context, has been used to cut tax rates ever since.

Relying on the hiitory of Kennedy's tax cut, Reagan cut taxs too, arguing that lower marginal tax rates would result in more tax revenues. It worked then too.

If anything, the federal government needs to stimulate the economy by bringing the highest tax rates down. Raising them right now, as the President plans to do, is a mistake.

Grassley should lead by example. He should apologize and commit suicide for being one of the people that have gotten our country into this mess. F'ing fake conservative worthless piece of shit.

After Grassley commits suicide the other elected officials in DC should do the same damn thing.

HI54UNI wrote:Grassley should lead by example. He should apologize and commit suicide for being one of the people that have gotten our country into this mess. F'ing fake conservative worthless piece of shit.

After Grassley commits suicide the other elected officials in DC should do the same damn thing.

ding! ding!

No fan of Conkunism as expoused by that shriveled up old fvck, but that WAS funny!!

Grassley tends to be one of the few conk politicos that I can tolerate... and oddly enough, this is EXACTLY what I was thinking... it's funny.

Other option? get their info - pass a one-off tax increase for each of the people named - the amount of which equal to what they stole from the American taxpayer. In truth... I actually fear for these ppls safety when wikileaks gets their hands on this list.

the sticky wicket is the contracts... there has to be a remedy for breaking the contracts and not squandering the money.

TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Grassley tends to be one of the few conk politicos that I can tolerate... and oddly enough, this is EXACTLY what I was thinking... it's funny.

Other option? get their info - pass a one-off tax increase for each of the people named - the amount of which equal to what they stole from the American taxpayer. In truth... I actually fear for these ppls safety when wikileaks gets their hands on this list.

the sticky wicket is the contracts... there has to be a remedy for breaking the contracts and not squandering the money.

Funny how abrogating contracts was looked at differently when they pertained to the UAW.

Here is how to deal with these parasitic cokesackers if the bonuses must be paid:

1) Make them show up in person to collect them.

2) Pay them in some public place like Central Park on a Saturday.

3) When they show up to collect their millions, pay them in gold bullion.

That ought to keep them in tertiary sphincter-lock until the banks open on Monday.

dbackjon wrote:

ASUMountaineer wrote:
That's exactly what I was saying about Iraq circa 05 - 07. The Democrats pulled the same crap, except for Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul. They both said, stop funding and come home. This is not a party issue, it's a broken Washington issue.

Mostly right.

The only problem is if the Democrats had voted against the Iraqi War spending, Fox, T-man, AZGriz etc would have spent the next two years showing that as proof as to how much the Democrats hated the military and America.

True. Eventually they would have been vindicated (the Dems with the balls to say NO). Never thought I would have agreed with Kucinich on anything--just proves he was right.