Google getting serious...

[Chizzang]

"Google is getting more serious about Google Fiber, its plan to bring fast fiber-optic internet connections to the US.The company just hired Gabriel Stricker into a new role running policy and communications for the group. Google Fiber, led by former Qualcomm executive Dennis Kish, launched in 2010 in Kansas City, Kansas, and has since expanded to a handful of other small cities, including Austin, Nashville, and Salt Lake City. But earlier this month, Google announced plans to expand to LA and Chicago — the second- and third-largest US cities, respectively."


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[dbackjon]

We want it here in Scottsdale - they have been talking about it, but getting resistance from the other utility companies (you know, those pesky private monopolies

[dbackjon]

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The Scottsdale, Ariz., City Council has delayed a decision over granting Google Fiber (NASDAQ: GOOG) a video services license until the Oct. 20 meeting so it could meet with Cox Communications to discuss the cable MSO's beef with the city of Tempe over that city's approval of a similar deal with Google.

Cox filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court of Arizona last month against the City of Tempe, claiming that the local government developed what it calls a regulatory framework that exempts Google Fiber from obligations imposed on cable operators for its planned fiber rollout in the city.

Specifically, Cox said that Tempe created a new license category for "video service providers" which use fiber-based networks instead of coax cable.

[Chizzang]

http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/scot ... 2015-10-12

The Scottsdale, Ariz., City Council has delayed a decision over granting Google Fiber (NASDAQ: GOOG) a video services license until the Oct. 20 meeting so it could meet with Cox Communications to discuss the cable MSO's beef with the city of Tempe over that city's approval of a similar deal with Google.

Cox filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court of Arizona last month against the City of Tempe, claiming that the local government developed what it calls a regulatory framework that exempts Google Fiber from obligations imposed on cable operators for its planned fiber rollout in the city.

Specifically, Cox said that Tempe created a new license category for "video service providers" which use fiber-based networks instead of coax cable.

Actually its pretty hilarious...
COX has been given millions and millions of free dollars to build out "our infrastructure"
and when they fall short and a competitor wants to come into their pet market
they go back to what they know... Lobby and Litigation

[dbackjon]

http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/scot ... 2015-10-12

The Scottsdale, Ariz., City Council has delayed a decision over granting Google Fiber (NASDAQ: GOOG) a video services license until the Oct. 20 meeting so it could meet with Cox Communications to discuss the cable MSO's beef with the city of Tempe over that city's approval of a similar deal with Google.

Cox filed a lawsuit in the U.S. District Court of Arizona last month against the City of Tempe, claiming that the local government developed what it calls a regulatory framework that exempts Google Fiber from obligations imposed on cable operators for its planned fiber rollout in the city.

Specifically, Cox said that Tempe created a new license category for "video service providers" which use fiber-based networks instead of coax cable.

Actually its pretty hilarious...
COX has been given millions and millions of free dollars to build out "our infrastructure"
and when they fall short and a competitor wants to come into their pet market
they go back to what they know... Lobby and Litigation

Yup

[CAA Flagship]

"Google is getting more serious about Google Fiber, its plan to bring fast fiber-optic internet connections to the US.The company just hired Gabriel Stricker into a new role running policy and communications for the group. Google Fiber, led by former Qualcomm executive Dennis Kish, launched in 2010 in Kansas City, Kansas, and has since expanded to a handful of other small cities, including Austin, Nashville, and Salt Lake City. But earlier this month, Google announced plans to expand to LA and Chicago — the second- and third-largest US cities, respectively."


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This venture will fail due to WC(b).

[SDHornet]

Actually its pretty hilarious...
COX has been given millions and millions of free dollars to build out "our infrastructure"
and when they fall short and a competitor wants to come into their pet market
they go back to what they know... Lobby and Litigation

Yup

It's the American way.

[JohnStOnge]

I'm on a fiber optic internet and TV system in Ascension Parish, Louisiana and have been for probably more than 10 years. Might even be something like 15 years. I have often wondered why it is not more widespread.

I don't really know why it's like this but one thing that's cool about it as opposed to the local cable alternative is that when there's a hurricane or something that knocks the power out you still have internet and TV if you have a generator to power it. It's got a backup battery thing and if you hook it to your generator power source everything works. For some reason you can't do that with the local cable service.

It's also very fast as far as I can tell.

[Chizzang]

I'm on a fiber optic internet and TV system in Ascension Parish, Louisiana and have been for probably more than 10 years. Might even be something like 15 years. I have often wondered why it is not more widespread.

I don't really know why it's like this but one thing that's cool about it as opposed to the local cable alternative is that when there's a hurricane or something that knocks the power out you still have internet and TV if you have a generator to power it. It's got a backup battery thing and if you hook it to your generator power source everything works. For some reason you can't do that with the local cable service.

It's also very fast as far as I can tell.

You're on EATEL Fiber Edge
They launched fiber to the door in 2005 in your area
You have full battery back-up because EATEL was forced by COX Cable Lobby to do so in an attempt to stop EATEL from building an advanced fiber network where COX had been paid by US Tax Dollars to build one 10 years earlier...

Ask me anything about Broadband - I can help you out...

In fact the COX Lobby was successful in delaying the EATEL Build out for years through the usual political channels and back door shenanigans and adding unusual expensive stipulations...

YOU are one of the lucky one John EATEL actually got it built in the face of extreme lobby interference and incredible red-tape...

Penetrating that bureaucracy has not been easy / Most competitive Fiber Build outs just give up
Even Google with literally BILLIONS of dollars is struggling to build a Fiber Network
Because the insider corrupt politics is overwhelming

[JohnStOnge]

Well, all I know is that I really like the Eatel system. It also doesn't go out as much as cable did when I had that in various places to begin with. It's very reliable.

Only thing I don't like is that Cox Sports TV does have good football games on...like especially high school football games...that I can't see on Eatel. At first they had Cox Sports TV in their lineup but eventually it went away.

[kalm]

I'm on a fiber optic internet and TV system in Ascension Parish, Louisiana and have been for probably more than 10 years. Might even be something like 15 years. I have often wondered why it is not more widespread.

I don't really know why it's like this but one thing that's cool about it as opposed to the local cable alternative is that when there's a hurricane or something that knocks the power out you still have internet and TV if you have a generator to power it. It's got a backup battery thing and if you hook it to your generator power source everything works. For some reason you can't do that with the local cable service.

It's also very fast as far as I can tell.

You're on EATEL Fiber Edge
They launched fiber to the door in 2005 in your area
You have full battery back-up because EATEL was forced by COX Cable Lobby to do so in an attempt to stop EATEL from building an advanced fiber network where COX had been paid by US Tax Dollars to build one 10 years earlier...

Ask me anything about Broadband - I can help you out...

In fact the COX Lobby was successful in delaying the EATEL Build out for years through the usual political channels and back door shenanigans and adding unusual expensive stipulations...

YOU are one of the lucky one John EATEL actually got it built in the face of extreme lobby interference and incredible red-tape...

Penetrating that bureaucracy has not been easy / Most competitive Fiber Build outs just give up
Even Google with literally BILLIONS of dollars is struggling to build a Fiber Network
Because the insider corrupt politics is overwhelming

This is utter nonsense. This is exactly what the people voted for. It has nothing whatsoever to do with corruption and money.

[JohnStOnge]

You have full battery back-up because EATEL was forced by COX Cable Lobby to do so

If so that's cool because it gives EATEL a competitive advantage now. When Hurricane Gustav knocked power out for weeks the word spread among people who had generators that if you had EATEL you could hook that battery pack up to your generator and have internet, all your TV channels, etc. It's one more reason to have the EATEL system rather than the COX system if you have access to it.

[SeattleGriz]

We want it here in Scottsdale - they have been talking about it, but getting resistance from the other utility companies (you know, those pesky private monopolies

I remember having 12K connectivity when I lived in N Phoenix and my brother's both had cable internet in Montana. The day cable internet became available was a glorious day.

[Chizzang]

You have full battery back-up because EATEL was forced by COX Cable Lobby to do so

If so that's cool because it gives EATEL a competitive advantage now. When Hurricane Gustav knocked power out for weeks the word spread among people who had generators that if you had EATEL you could hook that battery pack up to your generator and have internet, all your TV channels, etc. It's one more reason to have the EATEL system rather than the COX system if you have access to it.

Agreed, Ultimately its an advantage
But the COX Lobby knew what they were doing - the goal is to add so many additional expenses and hurdles that the "Competitive Venture" can't secure enough capital to begin the project...

Example:
Say you're EATEL Corp and you have $25 Mil saved up to begin the build out of Fiber to the Door
You've done years of expensive research and planning

But in the final stages (five minutes to midnight as they say) the local and state political machine tells you that these additional two hundred and 65 things also need to be completed before you can begin and a dozen of them require additional money - now you need to go to a bank for the extra $15 million and the projects get delayed and delayed and delayed - eventually all you have is ONE SINGLE MONOPOLY provider

[HI54UNI]

I was involved in the legislative fight here in Iowa over the ability for municipal utilities to provide telecom services. Iowa is unique in that there are 155 small independent telecom providers across the state in addition to the big players. The small telcos and the big players all were pushing legislation to prohibit munis from overbuilding. Foruntately the muni side won at the legislature with legislation being passed to allow it. There are 28 Iowa municipal utilities that provide broadband and other telecom services, most in competition with one or more other providers. There are 6-8 more that are currently looking at building.

I work with 13 municipal utilities in my job and 6 of those currently operate a hybrid fiber-coax system and all 6 are under construction for a complete rebuild for fiber to the home. A 7th is one of the additional systems that is looking at building new.

The competition has been great. In the cities with muni broadband rates for phone, cable TV, and internet service is about 1/2 of what it is in non-competitive cities. The small independent phone companies are also getting into the overbuild business so we are seeing more competition. Hopefully the trend continues.

[JohnStOnge]

Example:
Say you're EATEL Corp and you have $25 Mil saved up to begin the build out of Fiber to the Door
You've done years of expensive research and planning

But in the final stages (five minutes to midnight as they say) the local and state political machine tells you that these additional two hundred and 65 things also need to be completed before you can begin and a dozen of them require additional money - now you need to go to a bank for the extra $15 million and the projects get delayed and delayed and delayed - eventually all you have is ONE SINGLE MONOPOLY provider

Well I don't think it worked. Not a scientific survey but I don't know anybody in Ascension Parish who has cable now. I'm sure there are some. But as far as I can tell the fiber optic thing is a successful venture for EATEL.

I just thought it was kind of the evolution of things. There was cable and now there's a superior technology available. Kind of like at one point most internet was over phone lines then it went to cable. When it first happened I fully expected to see it happen all over the place. Heck, I expected COX to go to it.

I would've thought that by now cable would be basically obsolete and everybody would be on fiber optic. Don't know why that didn't happen.

[clenz]

One thing I miss about Cedar Falls was their utilities.

I got fiber in 2011 with them. Internet/cable was half of what it is/was in Waterloo (or anywhere else). Service NEVER went out (Mediacom goes out all of the time). Speeds were crazy fast.

Obama stopped at CFU a year or two ago and used it as the example of what we should strive for, or some shit like that.

I'm fighting mediacom to drop my internet bill. I'm no longer under contract with them so I'm shopping around and trying to play the "I'll leave if you don't give me this" game. The problem is Mediacom has a monopoly on the area. The only compeitor is CenturyLink, who has outages like crazy, and is priced for shit compared to Mediacom.

I can re-up for 12 months with Mediacom for 14.99 a month for 50mbps. I pay 59.99 for that currently. I'm trying to get them to drop their price on the 100mbps to about the $30 range because I wouldn't have a data cap where I'd get hit with extra fees like I do with the 50 meg service. Problem is CenturyLink is $40 for 20 meg service.

Fuck molopolies.

[Chizzang]

Example:
Say you're EATEL Corp and you have $25 Mil saved up to begin the build out of Fiber to the Door
You've done years of expensive research and planning

But in the final stages (five minutes to midnight as they say) the local and state political machine tells you that these additional two hundred and 65 things also need to be completed before you can begin and a dozen of them require additional money - now you need to go to a bank for the extra $15 million and the projects get delayed and delayed and delayed - eventually all you have is ONE SINGLE MONOPOLY provider

Well I don't think it worked. Not a scientific survey but I don't know anybody in Ascension Parish who has cable now. I'm sure there are some. But as far as I can tell the fiber optic thing is a successful venture for EATEL.

I just thought it was kind of the evolution of things. There was cable and now there's a superior technology available. Kind of like at one point most internet was over phone lines then it went to cable. When it first happened I fully expected to see it happen all over the place. Heck, I expected COX to go to it.

I would've thought that by now cable would be basically obsolete and everybody would be on fiber optic. Don't know why that didn't happen.

Actually John it kinda did work... In the larger sense
It worked on a national level in that there were hundreds of cable companies and dozens of fiber based braodband build outs and ultimately there are now but a scant few GIANT Cable conglomerates
and almost no fiber broadband buildouts...

Big Cable and lobby corruption has largely won the war
It simply didn't win in your area

[kalm]

Ill tell ya what Google is getting serious about. There getting serious about their advertising. They're robo-calling my business about marketing opportunities every day.

How...... 2004 of them.

[Wedgebuster]

Our city voted back in 2006 to build a fiber optic network bringing fiber to the door, they had contracted with a local communications company TCT West to provide their services over the network for five years, after which it would be open to all. Meanwhile the city maintains ownership of the network. I am talking about a city of 7,000 population here. It seems to have worked great, don't know why it can't happen in bigger markets. I have better internet access here than you have at the Denver Tech Center.

[clenz]

Ill tell ya what Google is getting serious about. There getting serious about their advertising. They're robo-calling my business about marketing opportunities every day.

How...... 2004 of them.

I had our IT add 37 Google autobot numbers to our blocked caller list in the month of December