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The Bundy family of Nevada joined with hard-core militiamen Saturday to take over the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, vowing to occupy the remote federal outpost 50 miles southeast of Burns for years.

The occupation came shortly after an estimated 300 marchers — militia and local citizens both — paraded through Burns to protest the prosecution of two Harney County ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and Steven Hammond, who are to report to prison on Monday.

Among the occupiers is Ammon Bundy, son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, and two of his brothers. Militia members at the refuge claimed they had as many as 100 supporters with them. The refuge, federal property managed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, was closed and unoccupied for the holiday weekend.

In phone interviews from inside the occupied building Saturday night, Ammon Bundy and his brother, Ryan Bundy, said they are not looking to hurt anyone. But they would not rule out violence if police tried to remove them, they said.

"The facility has been the tool to do all the tyranny that has been placed upon the Hammonds," Ammon Bundy said.

"We're planning on staying here for years, absolutely," he added. "This is not a decision we've made at the last minute."

kalm wrote:I don't like mandatory minimums or hate/terrorism provisions in sentencing. Like everyone else, I also hate bureaucrats. The 5 years seems excessive...if the Hammonds weren't such colossal and destructive douchebags.

The've done well enough while running cattle on our lands to be able to pay a $400,000 settlement as a portion of the cost of fighting the fires they started. And then they block others from using the same land? The BLM has been amazingly patient in these cases and by most accounts is a relatively easy agency to work with. They work hard to maintain and manage property owned by everyone and let these people make money off of it for very little to no cost. America!

The Hammonds, just like Cliven Bundy, appear to be welfare whores of the first order.

And then there's the geniuses in the militia movement...

kalm wrote:BTW, for those who have never been there, the Oregon "Outback" is really frickin' cool. When I was a kid, we used to drive through it on the way to watch Eastern play Nevada back when the Wolfpack were still in the Big Sky. High desert, interesting geology, abundant critters.




Someday I'm going to spend a month or so exploring and fishing the area around Steens Mountain and the Owhyee River drainage.

Grizalltheway wrote:

kalm wrote:BTW, for those who have never been there, the Oregon "Outback" is really frickin' cool. When I was a kid, we used to drive through it on the way to watch Eastern play Nevada back when the Wolfpack were still in the Big Sky. High desert, interesting geology, abundant critters.




Someday I'm going to spend a month or so exploring and fishing the area around Steens Mountain and the Owhyee River drainage.

If it's anything like the Eastern Washington scablands, no thanks. That stretch from the Dry Shitties to Spokane is just dire.

89Hen wrote:Is it the fact that they're armed what you don't like? When liberal protesters tie up city streets and parks, you applaud them.

kalm wrote:

Grizalltheway wrote: If it's anything like the Eastern Washington scablands, no thanks. That stretch from the Dry Shitties to Spokane is just dire.

Get your lazy ass off the interstate and actually see the scablands.

Don't make me post pictures, bro!

Grizalltheway wrote:

kalm wrote:
Get your lazy ass off the interstate and actually see the scablands.

Don't make me post pictures, bro!

Maybe in the spring when everything is still green, but by early July last year it was dryer than BDK's gash. And F getting off the interstate on an already 12 hour drive.

kalm wrote:

89Hen wrote:Is it the fact that they're armed what you don't like? When liberal protesters tie up city streets and parks, you applaud them.

Um yeah. Armed militia members breaking into closed government offices and saying they can only be removed by force. Why, it's practically the exact same thing!

kalm wrote:

89Hen wrote:Is it the fact that they're armed what you don't like? When liberal protesters tie up city streets and parks, you applaud them.

Um yeah. Armed militia members breaking into closed government offices and saying they can only be removed by force. Why, it's practically the exact same thing!

CitadelGrad wrote:

kalm wrote:
Um yeah. Armed militia members breaking into closed government offices and saying they can only be removed by force. Why, it's practically the exact same thing!

Actually it is. The Soros-funded out-of-state thugs who came into town for the Ferguson festivities tried to pull similar shit.

kalm wrote:

CitadelGrad wrote:
Actually it is. The Soros-funded out-of-state thugs who came into town for the Ferguson festivities tried to pull similar shit.

Really? I didn't here that. They were trying to break into and occupy federal buildings by force?

Thanks, liberal media!

kalm wrote:

89Hen wrote:Is it the fact that they're armed what you don't like? When liberal protesters tie up city streets and parks, you applaud them.

Um yeah. Armed militia members breaking into closed government offices and saying they can only be removed by force. Why, it's practically the exact same thing!

Baldy wrote:

kalm wrote:
Really? I didn't here that. They were trying to break into and occupy federal buildings by force?

Thanks, liberal media!

No, they only looted and/or destroyed 40+ businesses.

When this bunch of yahoos start looting, vandalizing, destroying property and killing, and raping people, then get back at me.

One of the protesters occupying a national wildlife refuge in Oregon says the ultimate goal is to turn the land over to local authorities so people can use it free of federal oversight.

Ryan Bundy — one of the sons of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was involved in a 2014 standoff with the government over grazing rights — told The Associated Press Sunday the protesters want to "restore the rights to people so they can use the land and resources" for ranching, logging, mining and recreation.

kalm wrote:I'm glad Ryan Bundy has driven all that way to fight for local control!

One of the protesters occupying a national wildlife refuge in Oregon says the ultimate goal is to turn the land over to local authorities so people can use it free of federal oversight.

Ryan Bundy — one of the sons of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was involved in a 2014 standoff with the government over grazing rights — told The Associated Press Sunday the protesters want to "restore the rights to people so they can use the land and resources" for ranching, logging, mining and recreation.

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JohnStOnge wrote:I don't think they have any chance but I do think there should be a massive reduction in land area owned and/or controlled by the Federal government. Especially out West. It should look much more like the East if not even less than that. There's no reason to allow the Federal government to own and control all that land. It should be controlled by the States it's in or transferred to private ownership.

JohnStOnge wrote:I don't think they have any chance but I do think there should be a massive reduction in land area owned and/or controlled by the Federal government. Especially out West. It should look much more like the East if not even less than that. There's no reason to allow the Federal government to own and control all that land. It should be controlled by the States it's in or transferred to private ownership.

JohnStOnge wrote:I don't think they have any chance but I do think there should be a massive reduction in land area owned and/or controlled by the Federal government. Especially out West. It should look much more like the East if not even less than that. There's no reason to allow the Federal government to own and control all that land. It should be controlled by the States it's in or transferred to private ownership.