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OUR military spending is THEIR military spending.

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I'm guessing that the same people who like to point to the European social utopia (paid mommy leave for all!) also complain about US military presence all over the world.

You can't do both.

Hey CID, sorry for hijack, but I was asked if I wanted to volunteer for 3-6 months in Nigeria yesterday.

I didn't have to think on that one. In fact, the whole room of analysts all laughed in unison.

CID1990 wrote:OUR military spending is THEIR military spending.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/ ... obamaputin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm guessing that the same people who like to point to the European social utopia (paid mommy leave for all!) also complain about US military presence all over the world.

You can't do both.

You've made this point before and it's valid.

Too bad we can't be fiscally responsible and raise taxes to support European healthcare and schools.

CID1990 wrote:OUR military spending is THEIR military spending.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/ ... obamaputin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm guessing that the same people who like to point to the European social utopia (paid mommy leave for all!) also complain about US military presence all over the world.

You can't do both.

Its easy to declare how those countries don't "waste money" on military spending when they dont need their own military to save their asses.

Where is the donk outrage on our out of control spending on military? Oh wait, it’s cool cause their guy is doing it.

Oh, and fuck Europe…BTW anyone noticing that the German banks are starting to go under now?

CID1990 wrote:OUR military spending is THEIR military spending.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/ ... obamaputin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm guessing that the same people who like to point to the European social utopia (paid mommy leave for all!) also complain about US military presence all over the world.

You can't do both.

We seem to be stupid enough to keep doing it - over and over again....
I continue to suspect that it really doesn't make one bit of difference who our President is

93henfan wrote:Hey CID, sorry for hijack, but I was asked if I wanted to volunteer for 3-6 months in Nigeria yesterday.

I didn't have to think on that one. In fact, the whole room of analysts all laughed in unison.

Abuja?

If it was Lagos you should do it if theres more money involved.

CID1990 wrote:

93henfan wrote:Hey CID, sorry for hijack, but I was asked if I wanted to volunteer for 3-6 months in Nigeria yesterday.

I didn't have to think on that one. In fact, the whole room of analysts all laughed in unison.

Abuja?

If it was Lagos you should do it if theres more money involved.

Hmmm...
Every time in my life I ever did something because there "more money involved" I regretted it

CID1990 wrote:

93henfan wrote:Hey CID, sorry for hijack, but I was asked if I wanted to volunteer for 3-6 months in Nigeria yesterday.

I didn't have to think on that one. In fact, the whole room of analysts all laughed in unison.

Abuja?

If it was Lagos you should do it if theres more money involved.

Fuck if I know. We didn't get past "Nigeria". It'd be wherever the USAID Mission is. Perhaps there's more than one?

Edit: Looked 'em up. It's Abuja.

Hey Obama, the 80s called….they want their foreign policy back.

(Did I do that right?)

93henfan wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Abuja?

If it was Lagos you should do it if theres more money involved.

**** if I know. We didn't get past "Nigeria". It'd be wherever the USAID Mission is. Perhaps there's more than one?

Edit: Looked 'em up. It's Abuja.

yeah dont go to Abuja. Its a manufactured capital- the Pyongyang of Africa

CID1990 wrote:

93henfan wrote:
**** if I know. We didn't get past "Nigeria". It'd be wherever the USAID Mission is. Perhaps there's more than one?

Edit: Looked 'em up. It's Abuja.

yeah dont go to Abuja. Its a manufactured capital- the Pyongyang of Africa

Yeah I checked it out and it looks it. The bookends looked to be a giant government sector on one end and a sports complex on the other with a giant mosque and church right in the middle. Shrewd.

Chizzang wrote:

CID1990 wrote:OUR military spending is THEIR military spending.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/ ... obamaputin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm guessing that the same people who like to point to the European social utopia (paid mommy leave for all!) also complain about US military presence all over the world.

You can't do both.

We seem to be stupid enough to keep doing it - over and over again....
I continue to suspect that it really doesn't make one bit of difference who our President is

It's a consumption-based economy...

Chizzang wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Abuja?

If it was Lagos you should do it if theres more money involved.

Hmmm...
Every time in my life I ever did something because there "more money involved" I regretted it

That's because you're a goddamn hippie.

CID1990 wrote:OUR military spending is THEIR military spending.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/ ... obamaputin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm guessing that the same people who like to point to the European social utopia (paid mommy leave for all!) also complain about US military presence all over the world.

You can't do both.

Yes, yes I have.

I've long complained about the free ride our MIC gives other countries. How we can pour trillions into rebuilding other countries, but won't spend on the U.S.

SDHornet wrote:Where is the donk outrage on our out of control spending on military? Oh wait, it’s cool cause their guy is doing it.

Oh, and fuck Europe…BTW anyone noticing that the German banks are starting to go under now?

I have pointed it out many times

Plus, as you know, spending originates in the House - who fund the military far in excess of what Obama has requested.

CitadelGrad wrote:

Chizzang wrote:
Hmmm...
Every time in my life I ever did something because there was "more money involved" I regretted it

That's because you're a goddamn hippie.

Its not that I'm a Hippie
Its that I have a Hippies soul... and a 1/2 Hippie girlfriend

dbackjon wrote:

CID1990 wrote:OUR military spending is THEIR military spending.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/ ... obamaputin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm guessing that the same people who like to point to the European social utopia (paid mommy leave for all!) also complain about US military presence all over the world.

You can't do both.

Yes, yes I have.

I've long complained about the free ride our MIC gives other countries. How we can pour trillions into rebuilding other countries, but won't spend on the U.S.

All I'm saying is if we didn't provide Europe with the means to do so, their pie in the sky social programs that liberals like to point to would not exist. They rely solely on the US to protect against another land war there.

Frankly we should be twisting it to our advantage. I'm thinking free Healthcare and paid vacation for Americans in Europe.

It's not specific on where the money is going... just "central and eastern Europe."

I would assume focused on countries in the Baltics. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania aren't exactly liberal social utopias.

I doubt much, if any, of this money is going to Scandanavia.

Skjellyfetti wrote:It's not specific on where the money is going... just "central and eastern Europe."

I would assume focused on countries in the Baltics. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania aren't exactly liberal social utopias.

I doubt much, if any, of this money is going to Scandanavia.

We aren't talking about transfer payments, dumbass.

Skjellyfetti wrote:It's not specific on where the money is going... just "central and eastern Europe."

I would assume focused on countries in the Baltics. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania aren't exactly liberal social utopias.

I doubt much, if any, of this money is going to Scandanavia.

Incorrect, and not the point.

All of our support and. Logistics emanate from Western Europe. If we increase capabilities there, it happens in Germany and is the projected to Eastern Europe.

Scandinavian countries are even bigger consumers of the US umbrella than the rest of Europe because they have not been in NATO, but any actions taken to protect mainland Europe protects them by proxy. They have their cake and they eat it too- they not only don't maintain enough of a military to protect their own sovereignty, they also don't pay to play with NATO.

It is no coincidence that they have so much capital to dump into those paid vacations

CID1990 wrote:

dbackjon wrote:

Yes, yes I have.

I've long complained about the free ride our MIC gives other countries. How we can pour trillions into rebuilding other countries, but won't spend on the U.S.

All I'm saying is if we didn't provide Europe with the means to do so, their pie in the sky social programs that liberals like to point to would not exist. They rely solely on the US to protect against another land war there.

Frankly we should be twisting it to our advantage. I'm thinking free Healthcare and paid vacation for Americans in Europe.

Can't Americans already study for zero-little tuition in some European countries? (Rumor don't know if it's true).

I do like you're thinking on the vacations.

This whole deal almost feels intentional. Like we had a choice to become the world's super power and took it.

CID1990 wrote:Scandinavian countries are even bigger consumers of the US umbrella than the rest of Europe because they have not been in NATO

CID1990 wrote:they also don't pay to play with NATO.

Did Norway and Denmark leave NATO or something?

Otherwise, Sweden is the only Scandanavian country not in NATO.

CID1990 wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:It's not specific on where the money is going... just "central and eastern Europe."

I would assume focused on countries in the Baltics. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania aren't exactly liberal social utopias.

I doubt much, if any, of this money is going to Scandanavia.

Incorrect, and not the point.

All of our support and. Logistics emanate from Western Europe. If we increase capabilities there, it happens in Germany and is the projected to Eastern Europe.

Scandinavian countries are even bigger consumers of the US umbrella than the rest of Europe because they have not been in NATO, but any actions taken to protect mainland Europe protects them by proxy. They have their cake and they eat it too- they not only don't maintain enough of a military to protect their own sovereignty, they also don't pay to play with NATO.

It is no coincidence that they have so much capital to dump into those paid vacations

Norway also has a sovereign wealth fund of over $7 trillion. If they had to start dumping a little more into defense spending, I think they'd be okay.

Oh, and it's not like any of these countries would need a $600 billion annual budget just to protect their own borders. Not playing world police has its advantages.