Gas Tax to Fund Self Driving Cars...

[Chizzang]

This actually made me laugh hard...
I seriously hope this article is a hoax or a punk



http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/109187 ... iving-cars" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[AZGrizFan]

How about a gas tax to fund alternative fuel cars.

[Pwns]

Google will have to buy off some Repiblicans to make this happen.

[Chizzang]

This is precisely why we can't have nice things...

A situation vaguely reminiscent of the publicly funded Broadband circa 1995
A project that netted already wealthy companies $400 Billion in free money
had zero accountability and ultimately reduced competition
ended up setting fixed prices for worse service

Thanks retarded Big Government !!!
and it worked so badly and so embarrassingly they're trying it again
Hey I've got a great idea lets give Apple and Google free money

Because yeah that makes sense

[YoUDeeMan]

This is precisely why we can't have nice things...

A situation vaguely reminiscent of the publicly funded Broadband circa 1995
A project that netted already wealthy companies $400 Billion in free money
had zero accountability and ultimately reduced competition
ended up setting fixed prices for worse service

Thanks retarded Big Government !!!
and it worked so badly and so embarrassingly they're trying it again
Hey I've got a great idea lets give Apple and Google free money

Because yeah that makes sense

Got a link to the $400B broadband thinghy?

[Chizzang]

This is precisely why we can't have nice things...

A situation vaguely reminiscent of the publicly funded Broadband circa 1995
A project that netted already wealthy companies $400 Billion in free money
had zero accountability and ultimately reduced competition
ended up setting fixed prices for worse service

Thanks retarded Big Government !!!
and it worked so badly and so embarrassingly they're trying it again
Hey I've got a great idea lets give Apple and Google free money

Because yeah that makes sense

Got a link to the $400B broadband thinghy?

Here read this book...
http://newnetworks.com/bookofbrokenpromises.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"spanning 17 years, senior telecom analyst and industry insider Bruce Kushnick lays out, in all of the gory details, how America paid over $400 billion and counting, to be the first fully fiber optic-based nation yet ended up 27th in the world for high-speed Internet. .."

[YoUDeeMan]

BTW, one of the funniest things in that proposal was to make the states fund, "smarter" infrastructure projects.

By, "smarter," the author (who seems to support the tax idea) surely means that the states would eliminate hiring expensive union construction workers, right?

[kalm]

This is precisely why we can't have nice things...

A situation vaguely reminiscent of the publicly funded Broadband circa 1995
A project that netted already wealthy companies $400 Billion in free money
had zero accountability and ultimately reduced competition
ended up setting fixed prices for worse service

Thanks retarded Big Government !!!
and it worked so badly and so embarrassingly they're trying it again
Hey I've got a great idea lets give Apple and Google free money

Because yeah that makes sense

Let's add up the externalities of big oil, make them responsible for the charges past and present, and have a really competitive free market.

Ready, set, go!

[YoUDeeMan]

Got a link to the $400B broadband thinghy?

Here read this book...
http://newnetworks.com/bookofbrokenpromises.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"spanning 17 years, senior telecom analyst and industry insider Bruce Kushnick lays out, in all of the gory details, how America paid over $400 billion and counting, to be the first fully fiber optic-based nation yet ended up 27th in the world for high-speed Internet. .."

Wait, the guy wrote a $200B broadband book, and now wants people to buy the $400B broadband book? Should I hold out for the $600B broadband book?

Thanks for the $25 book recommendation...but I think I'll Google the guy's name and get a summary somewhere.

[Chizzang]

Here read this book...
http://newnetworks.com/bookofbrokenpromises.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"spanning 17 years, senior telecom analyst and industry insider Bruce Kushnick lays out, in all of the gory details, how America paid over $400 billion and counting, to be the first fully fiber optic-based nation yet ended up 27th in the world for high-speed Internet. .."

Wait, the guy wrote a $200B broadband book, and now wants people to buy the $400B broadband book? Should I hold out for the $600B broadband book?

Thanks for the $25 book recommendation...but I think I'll Google the guy's name and get a summary somewhere.

For starters... 3.5 Billion in 2015 was wasted
Yes I know that seems "unlikely" but the two decades of Braoddband fraud in the country is staggering

Read this
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150 ... raud.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[YoUDeeMan]

Wait, the guy wrote a $200B broadband book, and now wants people to buy the $400B broadband book? Should I hold out for the $600B broadband book?

Thanks for the $25 book recommendation...but I think I'll Google the guy's name and get a summary somewhere.

For starters... 3.5 Billion in 2015 was wasted
Yes I know that seems "unlikely" but the two decades of Braoddband fraud in the country is staggering

Read this
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150 ... raud.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well, you can't say the entire $3.5B was wasted. That total was set aside to expand high speed internet to hard to reach areas, and they report that some of that money's use was spotty. Loved the embedded story about the buried consultant's report, though. Hang them all.

Thanks for the link...I was busy reading some articles from the original author you quoted. Dude's on a mission, but he also seems to be in bed with the communications unions.

I'll be looking into this...Newark DE is looking into building their own high speed network...citing some Carolina or Tennessee city as an example. Of course, the bleeding hearts want to give the poor discounted access, while the city's businesses want the city to pay for their internet.

[Chizzang]

For starters... 3.5 Billion in 2015 was wasted
Yes I know that seems "unlikely" but the two decades of Braoddband fraud in the country is staggering

Read this
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150 ... raud.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well, you can't say the entire $3.5B was wasted. That total was set aside to expand high speed internet to hard to reach areas, and they report that some of that money's use was spotty. Loved the embedded story about the buried consultant's report, though. Hang them all.

Thanks for the link...I was busy reading some articles from the original author you quoted. Dude's on a mission, but he also seems to be in bed with the communications unions.

I'll be looking into this...Newark DE is looking into building their own high speed network...citing some Carolina or Tennessee city as an example. Of course, the bleeding hearts want to give the poor discounted access, while the city's businesses want the city to pay for their internet.

the American tax payer has been swindled out of hundreds of Billions in the past 20 plus years
in regards to the "Broadband build-out" / We didn't get what we paid for
we didn't get what we were promised in the contract

Funding the richest companies in the world (Apple and google) to build Self driving cars
Something they're ALREADY DOING JUST FINE
is about as dumb as the Broadband swindle that we're finally wrapping up

[CID1990]

A 20 dollar per barrel tax on oil proposal is just a pander by Obama to the progtard base. It will never happen in an election year. (but I'd love to see Hillary Obama explain it after promising no new taxes on the middle class (that's people making less than 250k this week)

But given that it has no chance and it also hurts Hillary... it makes no sense coming from this White House

But that hasn't stopped them before

[Chizzang]

A 20 dollar per barrel tax on oil proposal is just a pander by Obama to the progtard base. It will never happen in an election year. (but I'd love to see Hillary Obama explain it after promising no new taxes on the middle class (that's people making less than 250k this week)

But given that it has no chance and it also hurts Hillary... it makes no sense coming from this White House

But that hasn't stopped them before

Its so poorly conceived I find it hard to believe
anybody in a Federal position that would even hint at a tax like this has completely lost their marbles

Lets give two of the most profitable largest companies on the planet free money
and not just free money but money extracted directly from the middle class



Have I accidentally taken some crazy pills...!!!
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcRS5eUpwk[/youtube]

I'm a HUGE FAN of the technology and would love to see it succeed
BUT JEEZUS TITTY F*CKING CHRIST

[AshevilleApp]

Won't happen. And the gas tax currently can't keep up with road funding needs, at least in NC. 'Ware the VMT tax coming your way.

[kalm]

A 20 dollar per barrel tax on oil proposal is just a pander by Obama to the progtard base. It will never happen in an election year. (but I'd love to see Hillary Obama explain it after promising no new taxes on the middle class (that's people making less than 250k this week)

But given that it has no chance and it also hurts Hillary... it makes no sense coming from this White House

But that hasn't stopped them before

Its so poorly conceived I find it hard to believe
anybody in a Federal position that would even hint at a tax like this has completely lost their marbles

Lets give two of the most profitable largest companies on the planet free money
and not just free money but money extracted directly from the middle class



Have I accidentally taken some crazy pills...!!!
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilcRS5eUpwk[/youtube]

I'm a HUGE FAN of the technology and would love to see it succeed
BUT JEEZUS TITTY F*CKING CHRIST

Agreed on the implications to the middle class and self driving cars are still a trinket.

How do you level the playing field between renewables and petro?

I like fair competition.

[BDKJMU]

This is precisely why we can't have nice things...

A situation vaguely reminiscent of the publicly funded Broadband circa 1995
A project that netted already wealthy companies $400 Billion in free money
had zero accountability and ultimately reduced competition
ended up setting fixed prices for worse service

Thanks retarded Big Government !!!
and it worked so badly and so embarrassingly they're trying it again
Hey I've got a great idea lets give Apple and Google free money

Because yeah that makes sense

Let's add up the externalities of big oil, make them responsible for the charges past and present, and have a really competitive free market.

Ready, set, go!

You mean like the massive benefit to the American public and US economy of having $2 gas vs $5-10, and all the externalities that entails besides filling their tank..

Ready, set, go!

[kalm]

Let's add up the externalities of big oil, make them responsible for the charges past and present, and have a really competitive free market.

Ready, set, go!

You mean like the massive benefit to the American public and US economy of having $2 gas vs $5-10, and all the externalities that entails besides filling their tank..

Ready, set, go!

You do realize the price at the pump doesn't represent the total cost to the country right?

Never mind, you don't.

[Wedgebuster]

Thanks Obama!

And Hillary too!!

[BDKJMU]

You mean like the massive benefit to the American public and US economy of having $2 gas vs $5-10, and all the externalities that entails besides filling their tank..

Ready, set, go!

You do realize the price at the pump doesn't represent the total cost to the country right?

Never mind, you don't.

You do realize only a fraction of the massive economic benefit to the US of lower cost oil is at the pump right? Nevermind, you don't.

[kalm]

You do realize the price at the pump doesn't represent the total cost to the country right?

Never mind, you don't.

You do realize only a fraction of the massive economic benefit to the US of lower cost oil is at the pump right? Nevermind, you don't.

Who said there hasn't been an economic benefit from the cost of low oil?

There's also been a massive investment by government going back decades in petro based infrastructure. If you enjoy the benefits of our cheap oil economy you enjoy big government.

As I mentioned in the other post, I don't necessarily care for the methods here either, but investment in renewable infrastructure today could have the same impact over the next 80 years that it's had on oil. Other countries are already ahead of us in this.

If done right, government investment in renewable energy would simply level the playing field providing similar benefits to what oil has enjoyed. That helps the market decide. You do like competition and a free market right?