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RALEIGH — Federal judges struck down late Friday two majority black congressional districts in North Carolina, saying race was the predominant factor in drawing those lines but state legislators lacked justification in using that practice.


Two of the three judges on the redistricting panel hearing the 2013 lawsuit agreed the size and composition of both the 1st and 12th Districts violated the Constitution's equal protection provision and must be redrawn.


The judges ordered the General Assembly to come up with new boundaries by Feb. 19, although Republican lawmakers who helped shepherd North Carolina's congressional map through the legislature in 2011 said a swift appeal was coming. The state could seek a delay at the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

What the GOP in the NC legislature has done is the REAL voter fraud.

dbackjon wrote:What the GOP in the NC legislature has done is the REAL voter fraud.

Now are you going to throw a fit about what Democrats have done in Maryland?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

dbackjon wrote:What the GOP in the NC legislature has done is the REAL voter fraud.

Some of the most gerrymandered congressional districts in the country are in NC and they are slanted towards black voters.

93henfan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:What the GOP in the NC legislature has done is the REAL voter fraud.

Now are you going to throw a fit about what Democrats have done in Maryland?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Why did you ask such a stupid question?

93henfan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:What the GOP in the NC legislature has done is the REAL voter fraud.

Now are you going to throw a fit about what Democrats have done in Maryland?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

I have been consistent in my opposition to gerrymandering from any party.

CID1990 wrote:

dbackjon wrote:What the GOP in the NC legislature has done is the REAL voter fraud.

Some of the most gerrymandered congressional districts in the country are in NC and they are slanted towards black voters.

They are slanted to pack as many blacks into two districts, leaving the other districts minority (and Democratic) free. Done by the GOP to suppress Democratic Vote

and newsflash - this is what the post/court ruling was about.

dbackjon wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Some of the most gerrymandered congressional districts in the country are in NC and they are slanted towards black voters.

They are slanted to pack as many blacks into two districts, leaving the other districts minority (and Democratic) free. Done by the GOP to suppress Democratic Vote

and newsflash - this is what the post/court ruling was about.

You've never been to North Carolina, have you?

dbackjon wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Some of the most gerrymandered congressional districts in the country are in NC and they are slanted towards black voters.

They are slanted to pack as many blacks into two districts, leaving the other districts minority (and Democratic) free. Done by the GOP to suppress Democratic Vote

and newsflash - this is what the post/court ruling was about.

That isnt what I asked you, Jon-

so let me ask again in a different way:

Since NC is one of the most gerrymandered states, would you support redistricting along population lines?

NC is gerrymandered because the districts were drawn by people who think like you, so you can't be against gerrymandering if you are looking to manipulate outcomes in favor of black citizens.

I lived in gerrymandered District 12. There was really no point in even voting.

dbackjon wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Some of the most gerrymandered congressional districts in the country are in NC and they are slanted towards black voters.

They are slanted to pack as many blacks into two districts, leaving the other districts minority (and Democratic) free. Done by the GOP to suppress Democratic Vote

and newsflash - this is what the post/court ruling was about.

You just want to deprive black people of a guarantee of having a black rep. Racist..

dbackjon wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Now are you going to throw a fit about what Democrats have done in Maryland?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

I have been consistent in my opposition to gerrymandering from any party.

Huh? Really? You do know that, technically speaking, crafting a voting district to contain a certain number of voters (whether it be a party, or a class, or a race, or some other criteria) you are in effect gerrymandering? I suppose it's good or bad depending on your point of view and what you're doing, but it's still gerrymandering.

North Carolina 12, just like Virginia 3, were created by Democrats to elect black Comgressmen or women (read Democratic for the uninitiated). The Republicans just enhanced the procedure when they got the chance after the next census.

Didn't the courts order majority black districts? So now they turn around and say what they ordered is unconstitutional.

dbackjon wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Some of the most gerrymandered congressional districts in the country are in NC and they are slanted towards black voters.

They are slanted to pack as many blacks into two districts, leaving the other districts minority (and Democratic) free. Done by the GOP to suppress Democratic Vote

and newsflash - this is what the post/court ruling was about.

Well, the US is busy cramming as many liberals as we can into California and New York effectively suppressing the Republican vote.

I'm trying to figure out why anybody thinks there is a Constitutional right to having Black majority districts in the first place.

BDKJMU wrote:Didn't the courts order majority black districts? So now they turn around and say what they ordered is unconstitutional.

This.

A minority majority of anything doesnt fall under the facts of the demographics of this country.

It would be interesting to see congressional districts divided strictly along ethnic percentages, and how the maps would be drawn.

Every district would be majority white...but that would be racist

93henfan wrote:

dbackjon wrote:What the GOP in the NC legislature has done is the REAL voter fraud.

Now are you going to throw a fit about what Democrats have done in Maryland?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70eU840lc38[/youtube]

andy7171 wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Now are you going to throw a fit about what Democrats have done in Maryland?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70eU840lc38[/youtube]

TheDancinMonarch wrote:North Carolina 12, just like Virginia 3, were created by Democrats to elect black Comgressmen or women (read Democratic for the uninitiated). The Republicans just enhanced the procedure when they got the chance after the next census.

This. NC 12 was established a long ways back. Glad it was thrown out. Now if they would do something about NC 10, I'd like that as well.

This should be the way it is done in every state.

Every census the numbers (without any accompanying demographic data on age, sex, race, class, income, etc.) should be entered into a GIS and districts are spit out based solely on the distribution of people.

Skjellyfetti wrote:This should be the way it is done in every state.

Every census the numbers (without any accompanying demographic data on age, sex, race, class, income, etc.) should be entered into a GIS and districts are spit out based solely on the distribution of people.

You mean get rid of the I-85 district??

Skjellyfetti wrote:This should be the way it is done in every state.

Every census the numbers (without any accompanying demographic data on age, sex, race, class, income, etc.) should be entered into a GIS and districts are spit out based solely on the distribution of people.

For once KY puts up a worthwhile graph that I agree with..

Skjellyfetti wrote:This should be the way it is done in every state.

Every census the numbers (without any accompanying demographic data on age, sex, race, class, income, etc.) should be entered into a GIS and districts are spit out based solely on the distribution of people.

That is a really dumb idea.

A surrounding farm district would be at the mercy of a large city next door. The two groups have little in common, but the majority of people crammed into in a 10-square mile area would completely dominate the political, and thus, financial, decisions for hundreds or thousands of square miles.

Heck, why don't you just eliminate state and county lines and simply divide people up simply by numbers? Hey, let's do that for the world, also. The Chinks and Dot People know what's good for the rest of the world, right? After all, equality and elimination of individuality is paramount...we need to leave no reminders of any particular group of people or their particular needs.

Skjellyfetti wrote:This should be the way it is done in every state.

Every census the numbers (without any accompanying demographic data on age, sex, race, class, income, etc.) should be entered into a GIS and districts are spit out based solely on the distribution of people.

A human still writes the code jelly.