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Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:00 am
by kalm
Speaking of sentencing guidelines, when will these pussy liberals decide to get tough on crime and offer a hand up instead of a hand out?
Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote
From the crime bill to welfare reform, policies Bill Clinton enacted—and Hillary Clinton supported—decimated black America.
Bill Clinton presided over the largest increase in federal and state prison inmates of any president in American history. Clinton did not declare the War on Crime or the War on Drugs—those wars were declared before Reagan was elected and long before crack hit the streets—but he escalated it beyond what many conservatives had imagined possible. He supported the 100-to-1 sentencing disparity for crack versus powder cocaine, which produced staggering racial injustice in sentencing and boosted funding for drug-law enforcement.
Clinton championed the idea of a federal “three strikes” law in his 1994 State of the Union address and, months later, signed a $30 billion crime bill that created dozens of new federal capital crimes, mandated life sentences for some three-time offenders, and authorized more than $16 billion for state prison grants and the expansion of police forces. The legislation was hailed by mainstream-media outlets as a victory for the Democrats, who “were able to wrest the crime issue from the Republicans and make it their own.”
When Clinton left office in 2001, the United States had the highest rate of incarceration in the world. Human Rights Watch reported that in seven states, African Americans constituted 80 to 90 percent of all drug offenders sent to prison, even though they were no more likely than whites to use or sell illegal drugs. Prison admissions for drug offenses reached a level in 2000 for African Americans more than 26 times the level in 1983. All of the presidents since 1980 have contributed to mass incarceration, but as Equal Justice Initiative founder Bryan Stevenson recently observed, “President Clinton’s tenure was the worst.”
Some might argue that it’s unfair to judge Hillary Clinton for the policies her husband championed years ago. But Hillary wasn’t picking out china while she was first lady. She bravely broke the mold and redefined that job in ways no woman ever had before. She not only campaigned for Bill; she also wielded power and significant influence once he was elected, lobbying for legislation and other measures. That record, and her statements from that era, should be scrutinized. In her support for the 1994 crime bill, for example, she used racially coded rhetoric to cast black children as animals. “They are not just gangs of kids anymore,” she said. “They are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘super-predators.’ No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel.”
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(CID and Baldy, I tried to find an article from a conservative rag criticizing the outcomes of Clinton crime and economic policies on the black community, but I didn't have any luck. Sorry.

)
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:06 am
by Ivytalk
Let's see if Hildabeast starts wearing blonde dreads and droppin' her final consonants, just like B. Hussein Obama in front of a black audience.
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:18 am
by ASUG8
It's ironic that many view Bill as the first black president and he would do that to his own people.
It's going to take some doing from whoever is elected to calm racial tensions down moving forward after what's happened on the Obama/Holder watch.
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:04 am
by Ibanez
ASUG8 wrote:It's ironic that many view Bill as the first black president and he would do that to his own people.
It's going to take some doing from whoever is elected to calm racial tensions down moving forward after what's happened on the Obama/Holder watch.
Who better than an old white man?
Or middle aged Cubans?
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:05 am
by ASUG8
Ibanez wrote:ASUG8 wrote:It's ironic that many view Bill as the first black president and he would do that to his own people.
It's going to take some doing from whoever is elected to calm racial tensions down moving forward after what's happened on the Obama/Holder watch.
Who better than an old white man?
Or middle aged Cubans?
Brown is between black and white - maybe it makes sense.

Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:07 am
by Ibanez
ASUG8 wrote:Ibanez wrote:
Who better than an old white man?
Or middle aged Cubans?
Brown is between black and white - maybe it makes sense.

As much sense as HRC adopting a southern drawl when speaking in the South.

Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:27 am
by 93henfan
Ivytalk wrote:Let's see if Hildabeast starts wearing blonde dreads and droppin' her final consonants, just like B. Hussein Obama in front of a black audience.
Oh no he di-in't!!
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:31 am
by houndawg
Ivytalk wrote:Let's see if Hildabeast starts wearing blonde dreads and droppin' her final consonants, just like B. Hussein Obama in front of a black audience.
or if she start eating tacos like E. Rafael Cruz.

Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:36 am
by BDKJMU
Ivytalk wrote:Let's see if Hildabeast starts wearing blonde dreads and droppin' her final consonants, just like B. Hussein Obama in front of a black audience.
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Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:40 am
by CID1990
kalm wrote:Speaking of sentencing guidelines, when will these pussy liberals decide to get tough on crime and offer a hand up instead of a hand out?
Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote
From the crime bill to welfare reform, policies Bill Clinton enacted—and Hillary Clinton supported—decimated black America.
Bill Clinton presided over the largest increase in federal and state prison inmates of any president in American history. Clinton did not declare the War on Crime or the War on Drugs—those wars were declared before Reagan was elected and long before crack hit the streets—but he escalated it beyond what many conservatives had imagined possible. He supported the 100-to-1 sentencing disparity for crack versus powder cocaine, which produced staggering racial injustice in sentencing and boosted funding for drug-law enforcement.
Clinton championed the idea of a federal “three strikes” law in his 1994 State of the Union address and, months later, signed a $30 billion crime bill that created dozens of new federal capital crimes, mandated life sentences for some three-time offenders, and authorized more than $16 billion for state prison grants and the expansion of police forces. The legislation was hailed by mainstream-media outlets as a victory for the Democrats, who “were able to wrest the crime issue from the Republicans and make it their own.”
When Clinton left office in 2001, the United States had the highest rate of incarceration in the world. Human Rights Watch reported that in seven states, African Americans constituted 80 to 90 percent of all drug offenders sent to prison, even though they were no more likely than whites to use or sell illegal drugs. Prison admissions for drug offenses reached a level in 2000 for African Americans more than 26 times the level in 1983. All of the presidents since 1980 have contributed to mass incarceration, but as Equal Justice Initiative founder Bryan Stevenson recently observed, “President Clinton’s tenure was the worst.”
Some might argue that it’s unfair to judge Hillary Clinton for the policies her husband championed years ago. But Hillary wasn’t picking out china while she was first lady. She bravely broke the mold and redefined that job in ways no woman ever had before. She not only campaigned for Bill; she also wielded power and significant influence once he was elected, lobbying for legislation and other measures. That record, and her statements from that era, should be scrutinized. In her support for the 1994 crime bill, for example, she used racially coded rhetoric to cast black children as animals. “They are not just gangs of kids anymore,” she said. “They are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘super-predators.’ No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel.”
http://www.thenation.com/article/hillar ... les-votes/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(CID and Baldy, I tried to find an article from a conservative rag criticizing the outcomes of Clinton crime and economic policies on the black community, but I didn't have any luck. Sorry.

)
That's because you rode in on the short bus.
Plenty of outlets have pointed out that the omnibus crime bill signed into law by Bill Clinton greatly increased the black prison population in this country.
And Hillary is neither good nor bad for blacks. Until we stop asking how government can be good or bad for its lil black chilluns, the black population will never be able to benefit from the citizenship as Americans that they already possess
or, to quote Reuben Greenberg- "All the white people could disappear tomorrow and black people would still have the same problems."
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:02 am
by Ibanez
Good ole' Reuben Greenberg. I would love to hear his take on Michael Brown or Eric Gardner.
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:08 am
by SDHornet
ASUG8 wrote:Ibanez wrote:
Who better than an old white man?
Or middle aged Cubans?
Brown is between black and white - maybe it makes sense.


Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:38 am
by Bronco
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Malcolm X called it in the 60's
Blacks are "Political Chumps"
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Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:09 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:kalm wrote:Speaking of sentencing guidelines, when will these pussy liberals decide to get tough on crime and offer a hand up instead of a hand out?
http://www.thenation.com/article/hillar ... les-votes/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(CID and Baldy, I tried to find an article from a conservative rag criticizing the outcomes of Clinton crime and economic policies on the black community, but I didn't have any luck. Sorry.

)
That's because you rode in on the short bus.
Plenty of outlets have pointed out that the omnibus crime bill signed into law by Bill Clinton greatly increased the black prison population in this country.
And Hillary is neither good nor bad for blacks. Until we stop asking how government can be good or bad for its lil black chilluns, the black population will never be able to benefit from the citizenship as Americans that they already possess
or, to quote Reuben Greenberg- "All the white people could disappear tomorrow and black people would still have the same problems."
Agreed on your second point and best of luck with that. Government dependency hasn't worked, tough love hasn't worked.
But it's good to hear plenty of outlets have talked about how Clinton was too tough on crime.

Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:33 am
by CID1990
kalm wrote:CID1990 wrote:
That's because you rode in on the short bus.
Plenty of outlets have pointed out that the omnibus crime bill signed into law by Bill Clinton greatly increased the black prison population in this country.
And Hillary is neither good nor bad for blacks. Until we stop asking how government can be good or bad for its lil black chilluns, the black population will never be able to benefit from the citizenship as Americans that they already possess
or, to quote Reuben Greenberg- "All the white people could disappear tomorrow and black people would still have the same problems."
Agreed on your second point and best of luck with that. Government dependency hasn't worked, tough love hasn't worked.
But it's good to hear plenty of outlets have talked about how Clinton was too tough on crime.

They haven't said that. They have pointed out that she is a hypocrite for now claiming the incarceration rate is somehow a tragedy.
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:40 pm
by Ibanez
She's trying to appeal to them. Clinton is in Denmark, SC right now. It's about 90% black, home to a black college (unaccredited) and poor people. Median income is about $22k.
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:28 pm
by Baldy
Ibanez wrote:She's trying to appeal to them. Clinton is in Denmark, SC right now. It's about 90% black, home to a black college (unaccredited) and poor people. Median income is about $22k.
I'm curious to what kinda shape Denmark was in before the first black president?

Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:00 pm
by Ibanez
Baldy wrote:Ibanez wrote:She's trying to appeal to them. Clinton is in Denmark, SC right now. It's about 90% black, home to a black college (unaccredited) and poor people. Median income is about $22k.
I'm curious to what kinda shape Denmark was in before the first black president?

It's always been poor and black.
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:32 pm
by DSUrocks07
CID1990 wrote:kalm wrote:Speaking of sentencing guidelines, when will these pussy liberals decide to get tough on crime and offer a hand up instead of a hand out?
http://www.thenation.com/article/hillar ... les-votes/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(CID and Baldy, I tried to find an article from a conservative rag criticizing the outcomes of Clinton crime and economic policies on the black community, but I didn't have any luck. Sorry.

)
That's because you rode in on the short bus.
Plenty of outlets have pointed out that the omnibus crime bill signed into law by Bill Clinton greatly increased the black prison population in this country.
And Hillary is neither good nor bad for blacks. Until we stop asking how government can be good or bad for its lil black chilluns, the black population will never be able to benefit from the citizenship as Americans that they already possess
or, to quote Reuben Greenberg- "All the white people could disappear tomorrow and black people would still have the same problems."
I'm only two-fifths upset about this...
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:56 am
by CID1990
DSUrocks07 wrote:CID1990 wrote:
That's because you rode in on the short bus.
Plenty of outlets have pointed out that the omnibus crime bill signed into law by Bill Clinton greatly increased the black prison population in this country.
And Hillary is neither good nor bad for blacks. Until we stop asking how government can be good or bad for its lil black chilluns, the black population will never be able to benefit from the citizenship as Americans that they already possess
or, to quote Reuben Greenberg- "All the white people could disappear tomorrow and black people would still have the same problems."
I'm only two-fifths upset about this...
Lol I see what you did there
Klam- this is how it's done
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:58 am
by CID1990
Ibanez wrote:She's trying to appeal to them. Clinton is in Denmark, SC right now. It's about 90% black, home to a black college (unaccredited) and poor people. Median income is about $22k.
Has she been affecting that down homey African Methodist Episcopal accent she rolled out in 2008?
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:29 am
by kalm
CID1990 wrote:DSUrocks07 wrote:
I'm only two-fifths upset about this...
Lol I see what you did there
Klam- this is how it's done
Yep. That's well played.

Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:19 pm
by SDHornet
kalm wrote:CID1990 wrote:
Lol I see what you did there
Klam- this is how it's done
Yep. That's well played.


DSU FTW.

Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:52 pm
by Ibanez
CID1990 wrote:Ibanez wrote:She's trying to appeal to them. Clinton is in Denmark, SC right now. It's about 90% black, home to a black college (unaccredited) and poor people. Median income is about $22k.
Has she been affecting that down homey African Methodist Episcopal accent she rolled out in 2008?
Yup. I was just at SEWE and there was a Bernie Sanders march down King, left onto Calhoun and stopped in front of Mother Emanual.
Well, I say a March. It was close to 15 people, "feeling the bern."
Re: Is Clinton Good for Blacks?
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:03 am
by Jjoey52
That stank has to be the biggest phony of all time.