Panama Papers... and why nothing will come of it
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:48 pm
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https://theintercept.com/2016/04/04/a-k ... legalized/… But even though various criminal money-laundering schemes are the sexiest possible use of shell companies, the day-to-day tax dodging is what really pays the bills. As a manager of offshore bank accounts told me years ago, “People think of banking secrecy as all about terrorists and drug smugglers, but the truth is there are a lot of rich people who don’t want to pay taxes.” And the system persists because there are a lot of politicians in the West who don’t particularly want to make them. …
… Incorporating your hedge fund in a country with no corporate income tax even though all your fund’s employees and investors live in the United States is perfectly legal. So is, in most cases, setting up a Panamanian shell company to own and manage most of your family’s fortune.
Yeah, but Panama is so tacky and third-worldy.Grizalltheway wrote:Shouldn't the Ayn Rand-ian conks be in favor of this? Captains of industry protecting their hard-earned wealth from the evil redistributionists?
CitadelGrad wrote:Well, maybe not nothing. The heads of state in Ukraine and Iceland are under pressure to resign because of this.
This is great fodder for bernie. This story would be even better if hilldog is somewhere in the leaks (she probably deleted those emails already).Skjellyfetti wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrsI0Sw2hq8[/youtube]
No kidding.Chizzang wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:Well, maybe not nothing. The heads of state in Ukraine and Iceland are under pressure to resign because of this.![]()
Under pressure to resign...
If I could steal millions of dollars and the result was "pressure"
not 50 years in prison
So what....
Resignation would be the first step. We all know that Iceland does not tolerate financial shenanigans.Chizzang wrote:CitadelGrad wrote:Well, maybe not nothing. The heads of state in Ukraine and Iceland are under pressure to resign because of this.![]()
Under pressure to resign...
If I could steal millions of dollars and the result was "pressure"
not 50 years in prison
So what....
Or we could lower corporate taxes so that the cost and hassle of going through this isn't worth it...of course now there will just be another "Panama" that will get something like this going.Grizalltheway wrote:Shouldn't the Ayn Rand-ian conks be in favor of this? Captains of industry protecting their hard-earned wealth from the evil redistributionists?
I read that the Iceland PM just resignedCitadelGrad wrote:Well, maybe not nothing. The heads of state in Ukraine and Iceland are under pressure to resign because of this.
NY and CA just got more expensive.SDHornet wrote:Or we could lower corporate taxes so that the cost and hassle of going through this isn't worth it...of course now there will just be another "Panama" that will get something like this going.Grizalltheway wrote:Shouldn't the Ayn Rand-ian conks be in favor of this? Captains of industry protecting their hard-earned wealth from the evil redistributionists?
I equate this feel good story to the increase in minimum wage to $15 CA just passed. Yeah it's cool, but it really just increases the demand for cheap illegal labor.
Must have been the roaring throng of 150 reproductively-challenged Icelanders in the Reykjavik public square.tribe_pride wrote:I read that the Iceland PM just resignedCitadelGrad wrote:Well, maybe not nothing. The heads of state in Ukraine and Iceland are under pressure to resign because of this.
I prefer the Cayman's.Ivytalk wrote:Yeah, but Panama is so tacky and third-worldy.Grizalltheway wrote:Shouldn't the Ayn Rand-ian conks be in favor of this? Captains of industry protecting their hard-earned wealth from the evil redistributionists?Whatever happened to the good old days of Switzerland?
Ivytalk wrote:Delaware's losing the Corporate Race to the Bottom.
SDHornet wrote:Or we could lower corporate taxes so that the cost and hassle of going through this isn't worth it...of course now there will just be another "Panama" that will get something like this going.Grizalltheway wrote:Shouldn't the Ayn Rand-ian conks be in favor of this? Captains of industry protecting their hard-earned wealth from the evil redistributionists?
I equate this feel good story to the increase in minimum wage to $15 CA just passed. Yeah it's cool, but it really just increases the demand for cheap illegal labor.
Good to know I'm a little person. A vast majority of folks on your side of the isle don't agree.dbackjon wrote:Taxes are for the little people.
We've become so tolerant of leaders who amass great personal wealth and the expense of the public.SDHornet wrote:No kidding.Chizzang wrote:
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Under pressure to resign...
If I could steal millions of dollars and the result was "pressure"
not 50 years in prison
So what....
I'm down for a little revolution.JoltinJoe wrote:We've become so tolerant of leaders who amass great personal wealth and the expense of the public.SDHornet wrote: No kidding.
Kings and despots were hanged or beheaded for these type of atrocities at the start of the Enlightenment era. Which is why we can all tour Versailles today.
Would today's despots be so quick to gorge themselves like this if they feared having their necks being placed under the guillotine?
Hey, just a thought ...
dbackjon wrote:I'm down for a little revolution.JoltinJoe wrote: We've become so tolerant of leaders who amass great personal wealth and the expense of the public.
Kings and despots were hanged or beheaded for these type of atrocities at the start of the Enlightenment era. Which is why we can all tour Versailles today.
Would today's despots be so quick to gorge themselves like this if they feared having their necks being placed under the guillotine?
Hey, just a thought ...
Joe,JoltinJoe wrote:We've become so tolerant of leaders who amass great personal wealth and the expense of the public.SDHornet wrote: No kidding.
Kings and despots were hanged or beheaded for these type of atrocities at the start of the Enlightenment era. Which is why we can all tour Versailles today.
Would today's despots be so quick to gorge themselves like this if they feared having their necks being placed under the guillotine?
Hey, just a thought ...
bandl wrote:dbackjon wrote:
I'm down for a little revolution.Uh, your peeps don't do so well in these revolutions....you know?