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Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:12 pm
by Pwns
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/16/world ... -bill.html

Good, let them do that, and maybe we can stop buying their oil if they dump our debt they're holding.

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:28 pm
by Bronco
President Obama has refused to fulfill a twice made promise to declassify findings related to September 11, 2001
.

Biggest liar in presidential history.

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:56 pm
by Ivytalk
Fock the Saudis and the camels they rode in on.

Re: RE: Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:51 am
by DSUrocks07
Bronco wrote:
President Obama has refused to fulfill a twice made promise to declassify findings related to September 11, 2001
.

Biggest liar in presidential history.
clearly it's the Republicans fault /s

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Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:24 am
by 93henfan
The Saudis' assholes puckered up like Dubya's lips when he visits them when we dropped sanctions against Iran.

And then over the weekend when Iran refused to limit production and the US stock market actually went up yesterday, well, the Saudis are realizing that their vice grip on the world's testicles isn't quite as tight.

So they're throwing a fit.

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:45 am
by ASUG8
Jeez, I hope we can dust off the intel from an event that occurred nearly 15 years ago. :ohno: We know the freakin' carpet pilots were behind it and are culpable for funding the bombers. If Obama were to hold their feet to the fire he just might be able to save his presidential legacy.

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:50 am
by kalm
Bronco wrote:
President Obama has refused to fulfill a twice made promise to declassify findings related to September 11, 2001
.

Biggest liar in presidential history.
He's also approved more arms sales to SA than any other president and his State Department likes to under-report casualties on behalf of the Saudis. At least Rand Paul and Chris Murphy are trying to block US arms sales to SA. I still think Paul would have been an interesting pick for the GOP.

Anyhoo...do you ever get the impression that when each president gets his sit down/come-to-jesus meeting before taking office that he's told Saudi Arabia is off limits for criticizing? :suspicious:
IN ITS ANNUAL human rights report on Saudi Arabia, the State Department ignored thousands of civilian casualties from the Saudi-led bombing campaign in Yemen and overlooked the widespread use of illegal cluster munitions by the bombing coalition.

Saudi Arabia launched an air campaign in Yemen last March after Houthi rebels in Yemen threatened the rule of the Saudi-backed president. The Saudi military has been widely criticized for targeting civilians, destroying homes, schools, and hospitals, and using internationally banned cluster munitions.................

President Obama has approved more arms sales to Saudi Arabia than any other president. By 2015, his administration had approved more than $100 billion in weapons sales to the Saudis, and currently has approved $46 billion in new agreements.

A State Department spokesperson, who would only comment on background, pointed out that the U.S. has called on both sides of the conflict to protect civilians. He also claimed that the use of cluster munitions is not a human rights violation because the United States has not signed the ban on cluster munitions. :rofl: :ohno:
https://theintercept.com/2016/04/15/u-s ... -in-yemen/

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:56 am
by kalm
ASUG8 wrote:Jeez, I hope we can dust off the intel from an event that occurred nearly 15 years ago. :ohno: We know the freakin' carpet pilots were behind it and are culpable for funding the bombers. If Obama were to hold their feet to the fire he just might be able to save his presidential legacy.
:nod:

Another instance of Obama being Bush's bitch.
Earlier in the day, September 13, 2001, the FAA "issued a notice that private aviation was banned and that three private planes that had violated the ban had been forced to land by military aircraft," according to an article published in Vanity Fair.

On the afternoon of September 13, 2001, "three Saudi men in their early 20s flew in a Lear jet from Tampa, Fla., to Lexington, Ky., where they boarded a Boeing 747 with Arabic writing on it waiting to take them out of the country."

The flight from Tampa to Lexington, first reported October 2001 in the Tampa Tribune, "was one of several flights that Saudi Arabian citizens took in the immediate aftermath of September 11, 2001 when the rest of the country was prohibited from flying.""

"Many of the Saudis were members of the Saudi royal family or the bin Laden family."

The New York Times "reported that bin Laden family members were driven or flown under FBI supervision to a secret meeting in Texas and then to Washington, from where they left the country when airports were allowed to open Sept. 14, 2001."

Bolton concluded that "close to 140 Saudis left the U.S. days after the attacks, even though 15 of the 19 terrorists who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks were Saudi Arabian."
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Se ... _Nationals

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:00 am
by YoUDeeMan
kalm wrote:
Bronco wrote:.

Biggest liar in presidential history.
He's also approved more arms sales to SA than any other president and his State Department likes to under-report casualties on behalf of the Saudis. At least Rand Paul and Chris Murphy are trying to block US arms sales to SA. I still think Paul would have been an interesting pick for the GOP.

Anyhoo...do you ever get the impression that when each president gets his sit down/come-to-jesus meeting before taking office that he's told Saudi Arabia is off limits for criticizing? :suspicious:
IN ITS ANNUAL human rights report on Saudi Arabia, the State Department ignored thousands of civilian casualties from the Saudi-led bombing campaign in Yemen and overlooked the widespread use of illegal cluster munitions by the bombing coalition.

Saudi Arabia launched an air campaign in Yemen last March after Houthi rebels in Yemen threatened the rule of the Saudi-backed president. The Saudi military has been widely criticized for targeting civilians, destroying homes, schools, and hospitals, and using internationally banned cluster munitions.................

President Obama has approved more arms sales to Saudi Arabia than any other president. By 2015, his administration had approved more than $100 billion in weapons sales to the Saudis, and currently has approved $46 billion in new agreements.

A State Department spokesperson, who would only comment on background, pointed out that the U.S. has called on both sides of the conflict to protect civilians. He also claimed that the use of cluster munitions is not a human rights violation because the United States has not signed the ban on cluster munitions. :rofl: :ohno:
https://theintercept.com/2016/04/15/u-s ... -in-yemen/

Obomba's repeated issues with clouding civilian casualties (those we've inflicted, as well as our, "allies") should come back to haunt him.

and, of course, let's not forget Hillary's hand in selling arms to Saudi Arabia...and her hand in Libya...of, heck, everywhere...doing Saudi Arabia's bidding in our foreign policy decisions.

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:02 am
by GannonFan
Hey, if we're okay with everyone everywhere suing the USA for whatever damages they think we've inflicted then we should go right ahead with this bill. I mean, what can go wrong with that? :roll:

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:03 am
by 93henfan
Nothing will haunt Obama. Notice how Cindy Sheehan disappeared and the media stopped concerning itself with casualties on Jan 20, 2009. What a cowinkydink!

Re: RE: Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:14 am
by DSUrocks07
93henfan wrote:Nothing will haunt Obama. Notice how Cindy Sheehan disappeared and the media stopped concerning itself with casualties on Jan 20, 2009. What a cowinkydink!
Barack Obama will go down as one of the greatest presidents in the history of our country in the eyes of many...a man with such few actual accomplishments but a FUCKTON of hype and bravado.

Courtesy of the FEELZ generation :ohno:

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Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:18 am
by YoUDeeMan
GannonFan wrote:Hey, if we're okay with everyone everywhere suing the USA for whatever damages they think we've inflicted then we should go right ahead with this bill. I mean, what can go wrong with that? :roll:
Maybe we'll stop the majority of the unnecessary things we do to other countries? :suspicious:

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:05 am
by andy7171
Where is kalmy jumping up and down about "BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH!"

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:32 am
by kalm
andy7171 wrote:Where is kalmy jumping up and down about "BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH!"
I criticized Bush and Obama in one fell swoop.

I'm post partisan like that! :nod:

:clap:

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:45 am
by GannonFan
kalm wrote:
andy7171 wrote:Where is kalmy jumping up and down about "BUT BUSH, BUT BUSH!"
I criticized Bush and Obama in one fell swoop.

I'm post partisan like that! :nod:

:clap:
Strange, the only time you seem to be post partisan is when you are repeating the mantra that you are post partisan. Most of the other times you seem decidedly on one side of the aisle. I haven't seen you in the middle for at least a year now. :coffee:

Re: RE: Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:48 am
by DSUrocks07
GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
I criticized Bush and Obama in one fell swoop.

I'm post partisan like that! :nod:

:clap:
Strange, the only time you seem to be post partisan is when you are repeating the mantra that you are post partisan. Most of the other times you seem decidedly on one side of the aisle. I haven't seen you in the middle for at least a year now. :coffee:
Klam man is "post partisan" like Bernie Sanders is an "Independent" :rofl:

They both go left 99.99% of the time.Image
And the 0.01% is when they feel the left isn't going left enough. :rofl:

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Re: RE: Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:22 am
by andy7171
DSUrocks07 wrote: Klam man is "post partisan" like Bernie Sanders is an "Independent" :rofl:

They both go left 99.99% of the time.Image
And the 0.01% is when they feel the left isn't going left enough. :rofl:

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Spoiler: show
BOOM! Goes the DYNAMITE!

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

rOCKS IS BLACK, SO KALMY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A COMEBACK!

Re: RE: Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:53 am
by kalm
andy7171 wrote:
DSUrocks07 wrote: Klam man is "post partisan" like Bernie Sanders is an "Independent" :rofl:

They both go left 99.99% of the time.Image
And the 0.01% is when they feel the left isn't going left enough. :rofl:

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...........aaaaaaaaaannnnnnndddddd
Spoiler: show
BOOM! Goes the DYNAMITE!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

rOCKS IS BLACK, SO KALMY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A COMEBACK!
Psst...just to let you guys know...partisan can mean a strong supporter of party as well. It doesn't have to be which "side of the aisle." :coffee:

I'm fiercely independent and liberal. :nod:

I'm also post racial so I don't know what DSUrocks being a black Republican has to do with anything. :suspicious:

Gary Johnson motherfuckers!

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Re: RE: Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:55 am
by andy7171
kalm wrote:
andy7171 wrote:


...........aaaaaaaaaannnnnnndddddd
Spoiler: show
BOOM! Goes the DYNAMITE!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

rOCKS IS BLACK, SO KALMY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A COMEBACK!
Psst...just to let you guys know...partisan can mean a strong supporter of party as well. It doesn't have to be which "side of the aisle." :coffee:

I'm fiercely independent and liberal. :nod:

I'm also post racial so I don't know what DSUrocks being a black Republican has to do with anything. :suspicious:

Gary Johnson motherfuckers!

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Re: RE: Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:57 am
by Ivytalk
kalm wrote:
andy7171 wrote:


...........aaaaaaaaaannnnnnndddddd
Spoiler: show
BOOM! Goes the DYNAMITE!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

rOCKS IS BLACK, SO KALMY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A COMEBACK!
Psst...just to let you guys know...partisan can mean a strong supporter of party as well. It doesn't have to be which "side of the aisle." :coffee:

I'm fiercely independent and liberal. :nod:

I'm also post racial so I don't know what DSUrocks being a black Republican has to do with anything. :suspicious:

Gary Johnson motherfuckers!

Image
Is that a real bumpersticker? :? I suspect not. Unless the Libertarians don't care if they gross voters out. Oh, wait...

BUT TRUMP! :lol:

Re: RE: Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:02 pm
by kalm
andy7171 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Psst...just to let you guys know...partisan can mean a strong supporter of party as well. It doesn't have to be which "side of the aisle." :coffee:

I'm fiercely independent and liberal. :nod:

I'm also post racial so I don't know what DSUrocks being a black Republican has to do with anything. :suspicious:

Gary Johnson motherfuckers!

Image
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So I guess you didn't know that. :lol:

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:47 pm
by Pwns

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:14 pm
by Chizzang
Pwns wrote:Congress overrides Obama's veto.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/news/ov ... index.html
There's no President alive that wouldn't veto that bill
They have to Veto regardless of their feelings

We are inextricably tied to Saudi Arabia
in the 1930's we had a better relationship with Saudi Arabia than either England or France
Think about that for a second - and - The Petrol dollar is a very powerful tool for America

:nod:

Re: Saudis threaten repercussions for US bill

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:19 pm
by CID1990
At least it is good to see that at least in a few isolated cases, our system still works.


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