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Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 5:37 am
by kalm
Kudos to Flying Dog. :clap:

Something we should all agree on.

Perhaps Bandl should let the CS community pick his next label.

FYD Whiskey?

Vodcoont?
Good beer and free speech both prevail in this uncharacteristically feel-good First Amendment story. First, Maryland's Flying Dog Brewery won in its battle with the Michigan Liquor Control Commission, after the agency tried to ban the sale of Flying Dog's delicious, Belgian-style IPA because of the brew's name: Raging Bitch.

The liquor commission also objected to the beer label's artwork, designed by Ralph Steadman, best known for illustrating Hunter S. Thompson's books and articles.

Flying Dog sued the commission in 2009, but the case didn't come to a close until last year, when the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit sided with the brewery, saying Michigan officials could be held liable for violating the brewery's First Amendment rights, and Flying Dog could pursue damages for lost sales during the ban.

Now, Flying Dog has announced that it will use the damages received in that case to found the "1st Amendment Society," a non-profit dedicated to awareness-raising and advocacy around free-speech issues and organizing events that promote "the arts, journalism and civil liberties."

Flying Dog will launch the organization with a May 31 event at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., featuring constitutional lawyer Alan Gura. Some of the society's first orders of business will be establishing a scholarship at the University of Maryland’s College of Journalism and hosting a banned-book club this summer at Flying Dog Brewery.
https://reason.com/blog/2016/05/13/flyi ... ntent=link

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:56 am
by CAA Flagship
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Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:36 am
by Ivytalk
Great result! :thumb:

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:46 am
by Chizzang
:wtf:

I thought Michigan was all about Freedom and Ted Nugent
What is this nonsense..?

:ohno:

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 7:49 am
by kalm
Chizzang wrote::wtf:

I thought Michigan was all about Freedom and Ted Nugent
What is this nonsense..?

:ohno:
Liquor control boards will turn anyone authoritarian. It even says so in the name.

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:35 am
by AZGrizFan
Hell, their beer names are the only reason I BUY their beer....best beer names on the planet.

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:36 am
by UNI88
Flying Dog has had some great names - In Heat Wheat, Doggie Style, etc.

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Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:41 am
by 89Hen
AZGrizFan wrote:Hell, their beer names are the only reason I BUY their beer....best beer names on the planet.
:suspicious: It was the only reason I didn't buy it for a long time... and it's the best beer on the planet. :nod:

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:45 am
by Grizalltheway
89Hen wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Hell, their beer names are the only reason I BUY their beer....best beer names on the planet.
:suspicious: It was the only reason I didn't buy it for a long time.

:facepalm:

Ward Cleaver strikes again.

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:52 am
by 93henfan
89Hen wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Hell, their beer names are the only reason I BUY their beer....best beer names on the planet.
:suspicious: It was the only reason I didn't buy it for a long time... and it's the best beer on the planet. :nod:
Shirley you can't be serious.

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 12:30 pm
by AZGrizFan
89Hen wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Hell, their beer names are the only reason I BUY their beer....best beer names on the planet.
:suspicious: It was the only reason I didn't buy it for a long time... and it's the best beer on the planet. :nod:
Wha??? :dunce:

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 5:21 pm
by JohnStOnge
Free speech stuff aside, that IS a pretty ugly label:

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I don't know if I'd want to drink a beer with that label on it.

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 10:35 pm
by YoUDeeMan
JohnStOnge wrote:Free speech stuff aside, that IS a pretty ugly label:

Image

I don't know if I'd want to drink a beer with that label on it.
:suspicious:

Raging Bitch...aren't you supporting Hillary?

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 5:11 am
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote:Free speech stuff aside, that IS a pretty ugly label:

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I don't know if I'd want to drink a beer with that label on it.
Steadman isn't known for drawing pretty. And would you really not drink a beer because of the lable? :?

Have you ever read in Hunter S. Thompson?

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 5:45 am
by CID1990
What if they called it "Flaming Homo"?

Does everybody think the outcome would have been the same?

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 6:23 am
by CAA Flagship
CID1990 wrote:What if they called it "Flaming Homo"?

Does everybody think the outcome would have been the same?
There would be an Executive Order to ensure the products are offered in every outlet. :coffee:

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 7:07 am
by 89Hen
The names and labels seemed contrived to me. Like they were trying too hard to be cool. After drinking it, I don't care if they call it Bloody Tampon. The beer is too good to care.

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Wed May 18, 2016 10:40 am
by Chizzang
CID1990 wrote:What if they called it "Flaming Homo"?

Does everybody think the outcome would have been the same?
This ^ is why you cheer me up so much...

:rofl:

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 9:04 am
by UNI88
89Hen wrote:The names and labels seemed contrived to me. Like they were trying too hard to be cool. After drinking it, I don't care if they call it Bloody Tampon. The beer is too good to care.
They have but it's only sold at Roos Field. :D

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 9:30 am
by Ibanez
JohnStOnge wrote:Free speech stuff aside, that IS a pretty ugly label:

Image

I don't know if I'd want to drink a beer with that label on it.
Seriously?

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 9:57 am
by Ivytalk
Ibanez wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Free speech stuff aside, that IS a pretty ugly label:

Image

I don't know if I'd want to drink a beer with that label on it.
Seriously?
Shirley! :nod:

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 9:59 am
by YoUDeeMan
Ibanez wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Free speech stuff aside, that IS a pretty ugly label:

Image

I don't know if I'd want to drink a beer with that label on it.
Seriously?
Why does that surprise you? :suspicious:

JSO has proven that, in his world, outward appearance is FAR more important than what is actually within. :nod:

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 10:05 am
by Ibanez
Cluck U wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Seriously?
Why does that surprise you? :suspicious:

JSO has proven that, in his world, outward appearance is FAR more important than what is actually within. :nod:
It doesn't. JSO is very predictable

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:27 pm
by JohnStOnge
nd would you really not drink a beer because of the lable?
Actually at this point of my life I rarely drink beer because of calories. I drink to get alcohol. So just go directly to the point and drink grain alcohol. Alcohol itself has enough calories as it is. 200 per ounce. No need to add the extra calories you get in beer.

Re: Flying Dog Brewery and Free Speech

Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:30 pm
by JohnStOnge
JSO has proven that, in his world, outward appearance is FAR more important than what is actually within.
Now, see, I didn't see that before my last post. But my last post obviously proves you wrong. If i want to drink alcohol, I'm interested in alcohol. What is actually within. I'm not interested in impressing anybody with how sophisticated I am by drinking this beer or that beer or this wine or that wine. I just want the alcohol. So when I drink I just drink grain alcohol mixed with some matrix. Usually Fresca.