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"Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 10:11 am
by Pwns
So, a bunch of atheists are planning a "reason rally" in Washington on June 4th. Basically, the only gathering of people more lilly-white than a tea-party rally. :nod:

What are the top issues of the rally of people who are about reason and objective evidence? LGBTQ equality, climate change, and "reproductive rights". :lol:

Oh, and here is their list of speakers. They absolutely bend over backwards to find women and minorities and people with androgynous appearances to be speakers. There's Johnny Depp's wife, George Carlin's daughter, some random women bloggers no one has heard of, and some black rappers from something called the Wu-Tang Clan. :lol:

Christopher Hitchens is rolling in his grave. The movement the "four horsemen" of atheism started has been completely subverted without creationists and theists getting many punches in. :lol:

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 11:03 am
by 89Hen
Women’s Reproductive Rights

The beliefs of a minority of Americans have limited a woman’s right to choose and access to birth control – and, in the process, also have drastically cut the health care available to women. If a woman believes that birth control is a sin, she doesn’t have to use birth control—but she surely does not have the right to bar another woman from doing so. Those same politicians who vote against Planned Parenthood or insurance coverage for birth control or the morning-after pill would be appalled by a law that prohibited men from getting Viagra.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c[/youtube]

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 11:16 am
by Ibanez
89Hen wrote:
Women’s Reproductive Rights

The beliefs of a minority of Americans have limited a woman’s right to choose and access to birth control – and, in the process, also have drastically cut the health care available to women. If a woman believes that birth control is a sin, she doesn’t have to use birth control—but she surely does not have the right to bar another woman from doing so. Those same politicians who vote against Planned Parenthood or insurance coverage for birth control or the morning-after pill would be appalled by a law that prohibited men from getting Viagra.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c[/youtube]
Wait...killing a fetus is the same as getting an erection?

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:34 pm
by kalm
89Hen wrote:
Women’s Reproductive Rights

The beliefs of a minority of Americans have limited a woman’s right to choose and access to birth control – and, in the process, also have drastically cut the health care available to women. If a woman believes that birth control is a sin, she doesn’t have to use birth control—but she surely does not have the right to bar another woman from doing so. Those same politicians who vote against Planned Parenthood or insurance coverage for birth control or the morning-after pill would be appalled by a law that prohibited men from getting Viagra.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c[/youtube]
I'm sure I'm missing something here because...well it's you...but what do you find disagreeable?

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 1:53 pm
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:I'm sure I'm missing something here because...well it's you...but what do you find disagreeable?
They are throwing together a bunch of different issues into one big mess to try to make it sound like the other side is unreasonable. They mention birth control options, insurance, PP and wrap it all up in the "if men could get pregnant" stale old line... :coffee:

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:41 pm
by kalm
89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:I'm sure I'm missing something here because...well it's you...but what do you find disagreeable?
They are throwing together a bunch of different issues into one big mess to try to make it sound like the other side is unreasonable. They mention birth control options, insurance, PP and wrap it all up in the "if men could get pregnant" stale old line... :coffee:
Women’s Reproductive Rights

The beliefs of a minority of Americans have limited a woman’s right to choose and access to birth control – and, in the process, also have drastically cut the health care available to women. If a woman believes that birth control is a sin, she doesn’t have to use birth control—but she surely does not have the right to bar another woman from doing so. Those same politicians who vote against Planned Parenthood or insurance coverage for birth control or the morning-after pill would be appalled by a law that prohibited men from getting Viagra.
How does this all not relate to "Women's Reproductive Rights?"

I'm seeing about as much to be outraged at here as I did with Pwns original post. :coffee:

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:53 pm
by JohnStOnge
Reason should tell you that if there is no "something else" (i.e., no God or something like that) nothing matters. So why bother?

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:00 pm
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote:Reason should tell you that if there is no "something else" (i.e., no God or something like that) nothing matters. So why bother?
Because egalitarianism has it's biological and cultural benefits.

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:10 pm
by JohnStOnge
Because egalitarianism has it's biological and cultural benefits.
In their essences, egalitarianism and atheism are philosophical outlooks that are inconsistent with each other.

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:16 pm
by kalm
JohnStOnge wrote:
Because egalitarianism has it's biological and cultural benefits.
In their essences, egalitarianism and atheism are philosophical outlooks that are inconsistent with each other.
As is conservative ideology and Christianity. But hey!

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:58 pm
by YoUDeeMan
kalm wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
In their essences, egalitarianism and atheism are philosophical outlooks that are inconsistent with each other.
As is conservative ideology and Christianity. But hey!
:shock:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:clap:

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:01 pm
by YoUDeeMan
JohnStOnge wrote:
Because egalitarianism has it's biological and cultural benefits.
In their essences, through my narrow point of view, egalitarianism and atheism are philosophical outlooks that are inconsistent with each other.
FIFY

You are blinded by your ignorance and inability to see things differently from how you were taught.

We forgive you and your shortcomings. :nod:

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:04 pm
by Pwns
I missed that line about viagra. That's so stupid, it makes my head hurt. Maybe the people that don't like birth control don't have a problem with viagra because it's not a mode of birth control? :dunce:

The people that say idiotic things like that are the same ones that pitch a fit when the FDA didn't release the aphrodisiac for women because "fvck medical evidence, wimmin's sexuality is being suppressed". :lol:

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:14 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:outrage
WTF are you talking about drama queen? :dunce:

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:19 am
by kalm
89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:outrage
WTF are you talking about drama queen? :dunce:
That's exactly MY point.
The beliefs of a minority of Americans have limited a woman’s right to choose and access to birth control – and, in the process, also have drastically cut the health care available to women. If a woman believes that birth control is a sin, she doesn’t have to use birth control—but she surely does not have the right to bar another woman from doing so. Those same politicians who vote against Planned Parenthood or insurance coverage for birth control or the morning-after pill would be appalled by a law that prohibited men from getting Viagra.
How dare they conflate reproductive rights with access to birth control, PP, insurance coverage for birth control or morning after pill? I mean, that's as bad as applying reason to climate change or letting Johnny Depp's wife speak!

:ohno:

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:44 am
by 93henfan
Did the OP really say "something called the Wu-Tang Clan"?


ODB RIP

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:47 am
by 89Hen
kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: WTF are you talking about drama queen? :dunce:
That's exactly MY point.
The beliefs of a minority of Americans have limited a woman’s right to choose and access to birth control – and, in the process, also have drastically cut the health care available to women. If a woman believes that birth control is a sin, she doesn’t have to use birth control—but she surely does not have the right to bar another woman from doing so. Those same politicians who vote against Planned Parenthood or insurance coverage for birth control or the morning-after pill would be appalled by a law that prohibited men from getting Viagra.
How dare they conflate reproductive rights with access to birth control, PP, insurance coverage for birth control or morning after pill? I mean, that's as bad as applying reason to climate change or letting Johnny Depp's wife speak!

:ohno:
You are babbling. :suspicious:

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:47 am
by Ibanez
93henfan wrote:Did the OP really say "something called the Wu-Tang Clan"?


ODB RIP
C.R.E.A.M

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 7:37 am
by CAA Flagship

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:14 am
by YoUDeeMan
Ibanez wrote:
93henfan wrote:Did the OP really say "something called the Wu-Tang Clan"?


ODB RIP
C.R.E.A.M
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lmq6RDn5O8[/youtube]

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:16 am
by Ibanez
Cluck U wrote:
Ibanez wrote: C.R.E.A.M
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lmq6RDn5O8[/youtube]
I'll raise you

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBwAxmrE194[/youtube]

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:16 am
by CAA Flagship

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:40 am
by 93henfan
CAA Flagship wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbqQL0J_Vr0[/youtube]
Baker playing a silver sparkle Ludwig kit. :notworthy:


:lol: @ 60's cymbal stands

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 8:45 am
by Grizalltheway
WTF is that animal on his head

Re: "Reason Rally" 2016

Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 9:38 am
by CAA Flagship
Grizalltheway wrote:WTF is that animal on his head
Some mountainfuck you are. :ohno: :ohno: