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I heard the EU gave the UK an extension.

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SDHornet wrote:I heard the EU gave the UK an extension.
Yup, not as long as I thought, but still longer than the UK was seeking - deadline is now Halloween of this year. No expectation that the UK will be able to function in Parliament, though, so I suspect they still won't have a deal come October.
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SDHornet wrote:I heard the EU gave the UK an extension.
Yup, not as long as I thought, but still longer than the UK was seeking - deadline is now Halloween of this year. No expectation that the UK will be able to function in Parliament, though, so I suspect they still won't have a deal come October.
If they do, I will be shocked. The inability to find a solution is really complicating some of the engine emission work I am involved with on imports/exports.
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SDHornet wrote:I heard the EU gave the UK an extension.
Yup, not as long as I thought, but still longer than the UK was seeking - deadline is now Halloween of this year. No expectation that the UK will be able to function in Parliament, though, so I suspect they still won't have a deal come October.
Tusk and his Brussels bunch are betting that there will be a new referendum by then.
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GannonFan wrote:
Yup, not as long as I thought, but still longer than the UK was seeking - deadline is now Halloween of this year. No expectation that the UK will be able to function in Parliament, though, so I suspect they still won't have a deal come October.
Tusk and his Brussels bunch are betting that there will be a new referendum by then.
I would put my money on another UK referendum on the matter. That has been the "Remain" goal the entire time.

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Ivytalk wrote: Tusk and his Brussels bunch are betting that there will be a new referendum by then.
I would put my money on another UK referendum on the matter. That has been the "Remain" goal the entire time.
Like I said, it's a be careful what you wish for thing, and probably why they haven't really pushed full out for a second referendum yet. There's no guarantee that a second referendum will be any different than the first, and if the UK votes again to leave the EU then the Labor party as it's currently constituted pretty much falls apart as "Remain" goes away forever. That's a whole lot to risk and why they aren't more vocal about a second referendum.
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Theresa May is out. Who is going to want the job of PM?
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Boris Johnson. May was an abysmal failure that ignored the will of the people. The people voted for Brexit. They should have been given that.

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It’s going to be Johnson and a no-deal Brexit now
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CID1990 wrote:It’s going to be Johnson and a no-deal Brexit now
Should have been that in the 1st place..

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I just made a no-deal Brexit on the shitter.

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The British screwed up. Same problem as we have here only worse. Dying spasms of an element of the population dominated by ignorance and resentment. The problem for the young Brits is that the results of the dying spasms over there are going to be much harder to overcome.
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JohnStOnge wrote:The British screwed up. Same problem as we have here only worse. Dying spasms of an element of the population dominated by ignorance and resentment. The problem for the young Brits is that the results of the dying spasms over there are going to be much harder to overcome.
I guess you’d support a NAU then huh, John? One with Canada, Mexico, and maybe including Central America?

You can’t see the problems of signing over most of the key elements of national sovereignty (immigration/trade/civil rights) to a congressional body in, say, Toronto - a body consisting of reps from all of those countries?

Brexit was inevitable when the EU was formed, and it should be a cautionary tale to any future countries considering joining similar schemes

The EU is a Warsaw Pact with better window dressing

The British are going to suffer consequences for leaving that were purely created by the charter they entered in the first place

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JohnStOnge wrote:The British screwed up. Same problem as we have here only worse. Dying spasms of an element of the population dominated by ignorance and resentment. The problem for the young Brits is that the results of the dying spasms over there are going to be much harder to overcome.
You haven’t had an original thought in months (years?). Just spewing the official CNN/MSNBC/Al Jazeera line equating Brexit supporters with Trump supporters.
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Ivytalk wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:The British screwed up. Same problem as we have here only worse. Dying spasms of an element of the population dominated by ignorance and resentment. The problem for the young Brits is that the results of the dying spasms over there are going to be much harder to overcome.
You haven’t had an original thought in months (years?). Just spewing the official CNN/MSNBC/Al Jazeera line equating Brexit supporters with Trump supporters.
I'm telling you. StOnge passed away and D1B was asked to fill his role.
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Ivytalk wrote: You haven’t had an original thought in months (years?). Just spewing the official CNN/MSNBC/Al Jazeera line equating Brexit supporters with Trump supporters.
I'm telling you. StOnge passed away and D1B was asked to fill his role.
:lol: No shit.
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Ivytalk wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:The British screwed up. Same problem as we have here only worse. Dying spasms of an element of the population dominated by ignorance and resentment. The problem for the young Brits is that the results of the dying spasms over there are going to be much harder to overcome.
You haven’t had an original thought in months (years?). Just spewing the official CNN/MSNBC/Al Jazeera line equating Brexit supporters with Trump supporters.
They are one and the same. :thumb:

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SeattleGriz wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: You haven’t had an original thought in months (years?). Just spewing the official CNN/MSNBC/Al Jazeera line equating Brexit supporters with Trump supporters.
I'm telling you. StOnge passed away and D1B was asked to fill his role.
Welcome to Trump World. :nod:

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Here’s a little something for those who think a second referendum in the UK would return a different result (those Brits seeing them consequences and all):

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/27/eu-elec ... seats.html


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CID1990 wrote:Here’s a little something for those who think a second referendum in the UK would return a different result (those Brits seeing them consequences and all):

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/27/eu-elec ... seats.html


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GannonFan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Here’s a little something for those who think a second referendum in the UK would return a different result (those Brits seeing them consequences and all):

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/27/eu-elec ... seats.html


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Yup, there's a reason why no one is really pushing for a second referendum - if Brexit wins again, as it would very likely do, how can you have any political party that has Remain as part of its agenda?
I think we are going to see Irish reunification and Scottish independence in our lifetimes.
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CID1990 wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Yup, there's a reason why no one is really pushing for a second referendum - if Brexit wins again, as it would very likely do, how can you have any political party that has Remain as part of its agenda?
I think we are going to see Irish reunification and Scottish independence in our lifetimes.
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CID1990 wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Yup, there's a reason why no one is really pushing for a second referendum - if Brexit wins again, as it would very likely do, how can you have any political party that has Remain as part of its agenda?
I think we are going to see Irish reunification and Scottish independence in our lifetimes.
I don't know so much about the Irish reunification - they can both be separate entities inside the larger EU, assuming the EU exists long-term (not going anywhere currently, I'm just thinking out 50 years or so). But yes, could certainly see Scottish independence depending on what post Brexit looks like. I still don't think it'll look all that bad - a lot of fear-mongering on both sides over this.
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CID1990 wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Yup, there's a reason why no one is really pushing for a second referendum - if Brexit wins again, as it would very likely do, how can you have any political party that has Remain as part of its agenda?
I think we are going to see Irish reunification and Scottish independence in our lifetimes.
Not a whole lot separating Ireland and NI right now....no wall, no fence, no border check stations....just a line on a map...
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