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There seems to be a grassroots movement of sorts in the Republican Party to divest themselves of that liability known as Donald Trump. The idea is that the delegates would open the Convention by passing a "conscience clause," which would wipe out the requirement that delegates are bound to vote according to the results of their primary/caucus. Trump, of course, is calling the whole thing illegal, and claims that party chair Reince Priebus agrees with him. State law is also involved in some cases. Digging around, though, seems to indicate that whatever the delegates do at the national Convention supersedes state law.

I'm not sure whether any of that will actually work. Party bigwigs are upset because if this movement works, then the perception is that the GOP will no longer be a functioning party. So far, the movement is small, focused on a Colorado school teacher who just happens to be a disgruntled Cruz supporter, though they at least claim not to support any particular candidate. She DOES happen to be on the rules committee, and claims that her "permission slip" (her words, not mine) was "signed" by Paul Ryan. I wonder what that might mean given that he doesn't really have a horse in the fight, particularly after long ago stating that he would decline any floor nomination.

I'm decidedly anti-Trump, but this doesn't seem to be the right way to go about it. I think the best thing for the GOP to do is write 2016 off as a lost cause regardless of who wins in November and make a concerted effort to get a decent candidate nominated and elected in 2020.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/unconvention ... 00630.html

What if he chooses Palin to be his VP?

The GOP needs to just shut up and accept what they brought upon themselves. They'll have 4 years to get their house in order and do some long-needed soul searching on where they are and where they should be

Not that that will happen. They'll just spend 4 years blaming everything on the newest Donk boogeyman and becoming more embittered and useless. And all the fat angry white guys will get fatter, whiter, and angrier, and push some other joker to the nomination in 2020.

Brock Landers wrote:The GOP needs to just shut up and accept what they brought upon themselves. They'll have 4 years to get their house in order and do some long-needed soul searching on where they are and where they should be

Not that that will happen. They'll just spend 4 years blaming everything on the newest Donk boogeyman and becoming more embittered and useless. And all the fat angry white guys will get fatter, whiter, and angrier, and push some other joker to the nomination in 2020.

Says the fan of a party that's nominated a felon to the general election.

Brock Landers wrote:The GOP needs to just shut up and accept what they brought upon themselves. They'll have 4 years to get their house in order and do some long-needed soul searching on where they are and where they should be

Not that that will happen. They'll just spend 4 years blaming everything on the newest Donk boogeyman and becoming more embittered and useless. And all the fat angry white guys will get fatter, whiter, and angrier, and push some other joker to the nomination in 2020.

WTF are you talking about, the Dems rolled out a criminal and a fucking socialist, both 100 years old and useless as shit.

Conservatives will blame the parasite class for the current state of political affairs and will be correct in their assessment

POD Knows wrote:

Brock Landers wrote:The GOP needs to just shut up and accept what they brought upon themselves. They'll have 4 years to get their house in order and do some long-needed soul searching on where they are and where they should be

Not that that will happen. They'll just spend 4 years blaming everything on the newest Donk boogeyman and becoming more embittered and useless. And all the fat angry white guys will get fatter, whiter, and angrier, and push some other joker to the nomination in 2020.

WTF are you talking about, the Dems rolled out a criminal and a fucking socialist, both 100 years old and useless as shit.

Conservatives will blame the parasite class for the current state of political affairs and will be correct in their assessment

As long as they blame the parasitic health insurance, private prison, defense contracting, and energy industries, this guy is all ears!

POD Knows wrote:

Brock Landers wrote:The GOP needs to just shut up and accept what they brought upon themselves. They'll have 4 years to get their house in order and do some long-needed soul searching on where they are and where they should be

Not that that will happen. They'll just spend 4 years blaming everything on the newest Donk boogeyman and becoming more embittered and useless. And all the fat angry white guys will get fatter, whiter, and angrier, and push some other joker to the nomination in 2020.

WTF are you talking about, the Dems rolled out a criminal and a fucking socialist, both 100 years old and useless as shit.

Conservatives will blame the parasite class for the current state of political affairs and will be correct in their assessment

And yet one of them is going to win the office and the other one would have, so... what was your point supposed to be?

And I'm no Democrat AZ. Most of the field could of gotten my vote, as pathetic as they were.

POD Knows wrote:

Brock Landers wrote:The GOP needs to just shut up and accept what they brought upon themselves. They'll have 4 years to get their house in order and do some long-needed soul searching on where they are and where they should be

Not that that will happen. They'll just spend 4 years blaming everything on the newest Donk boogeyman and becoming more embittered and useless. And all the fat angry white guys will get fatter, whiter, and angrier, and push some other joker to the nomination in 2020.

WTF are you talking about, the Dems rolled out a criminal and a **** socialist, both 100 years old and useless as ****.

Conservatives will blame the parasite class for the current state of political affairs and will be correct in their assessment

You're right. The dems gave us a criminal and a socialist for choices. And the reps managed to find a candidate that would make the dems competitive despite that. I hate to agree with a Griz fan, but I think Brock is right.

At the rate Drumpf's "campaign" is going -- no staff, no donations, no ads -- he'll dump himself. What an amateur.

catbooster wrote:

POD Knows wrote:
WTF are you talking about, the Dems rolled out a criminal and a **** socialist, both 100 years old and useless as ****.

Conservatives will blame the parasite class for the current state of political affairs and will be correct in their assessment

You're right. The dems gave us a criminal and a socialist for choices. And the reps managed to find a candidate that would make the dems competitive despite that. I hate to agree with a Griz fan, but I think Brock is right.

1). Corporate money tends to win elections. It's legalized bribery.

2). America has a mean democratic socialist streak that reaches beyond just your run of the mill hippie.

Both had a solid chance to beat anyone the Republicans nominated.

catbooster wrote:

POD Knows wrote:
WTF are you talking about, the Dems rolled out a criminal and a **** socialist, both 100 years old and useless as ****.

Conservatives will blame the parasite class for the current state of political affairs and will be correct in their assessment

You're right. The dems gave us a criminal and a socialist for choices. And the reps managed to find a candidate that would make the dems competitive despite that. I hate to agree with a Griz fan, but I think Brock is right.

Trump is a lot of things but he is a significantly better choice than Clinton and is isn't even close. I am not a Trump guy, he was probably my last choice in the Republican field but we cannot have Clinton picking SCOTUS justices, Trump already released what his choices would be and they are real solid. Trump's court picks and his position on immigration is what I am voting on.

kalm wrote:

catbooster wrote: You're right. The dems gave us a criminal and a socialist for choices. And the reps managed to find a candidate that would make the dems competitive despite that. I hate to agree with a Griz fan, but I think Brock is right.

1). Corporate money tends to win elections. It's legalized bribery.

2). America has a mean democratic socialist streak that reaches beyond just your run of the mill hippie.

Both had a solid chance to beat anyone the Republicans nominated.

Riddle me this, Batman. Assume we achieve instant Klam Utopia and abolish all corporate donations. Assume further that, on top of that, we give Kalm an orgasm (no homo) by publicly financing all federal elections and finding a Constitutional way to limit private donations. Wouldn't that just entrench all the incumbents that you claim to hate so much?

Brock Landers wrote:

POD Knows wrote:
WTF are you talking about, the Dems rolled out a criminal and a **** socialist, both 100 years old and useless as ****.

Conservatives will blame the parasite class for the current state of political affairs and will be correct in their assessment

And yet one of them is going to win the office and the other one would have, so... what was your point supposed to be?

And I'm no Democrat AZ. Most of the field could of gotten my vote, as pathetic as they were.

Maybe I need to read more of your "work" but your ire seems to be primarily aimed at the Repubs when the Democrats have rolled out the two worst candidates I have ever seen and I cast my first vote in 1980. I am more of a Libertarian than I am a Republican but in this case, Trump is a far better pick that either of Dems just on the Supreme Court issue alone.

But you are right, the Republicans, at least in recent memory, never cease to disappoint when it comes to POTUS candidates, but the voters get what they deserve, on both sides of the aisle.

Brock Landers wrote:The GOP needs to just shut up and accept what they brought upon themselves. They'll have 4 years to get their house in order and do some long-needed soul searching on where they are and where they should be

Not that that will happen. They'll just spend 4 years blaming everything on the newest Donk boogeyman and becoming more embittered and useless. And all the fat angry white guys will get fatter, whiter, and angrier, and push some other joker to the nomination in 2020.

Wasn't that the purpose of the 2012 autopsy?

Ivytalk wrote:

kalm wrote:
1). Corporate money tends to win elections. It's legalized bribery.

2). America has a mean democratic socialist streak that reaches beyond just your run of the mill hippie.

Both had a solid chance to beat anyone the Republicans nominated.

Riddle me this, Batman. Assume we achieve instant Klam Utopia and abolish all corporate donations. Assume further that, on top of that, we give Kalm an orgasm (no homo) by publicly financing all federal elections and finding a Constitutional way to limit private donations. Wouldn't that just entrench all the incumbents that you claim to hate so much?

No.

Ivytalk wrote:At the rate Drumpf's "campaign" is going -- no staff, no donations, no ads -- he'll dump himself. What an amateur.

Trump is turning into even more of kalm's perfect candidate. Upset about campaign finance ruining and corrupting politicians? Perfect, Trump's not going to raise any money and hence not be beholden to anyone. He should be thrilled that Trump isn't raising any money. Where's the love for the Donald, kalm? First he parrots your economic manifesto, now he's doing the same with campaign finance. Where on your body are you going to put your Trump tattoo?

If they Dump Trump, he will probably be a 3rd party candidate and open the doors wide open for Hilary.

Ivytalk wrote:on top of that, we give Gary Johnson an orgasm (no homo) by publicly financing all federal elections

Fixed that for you.

kalm wrote:

Ivytalk wrote:
Riddle me this, Batman. Assume we achieve instant Klam Utopia and abolish all corporate donations. Assume further that, on top of that, we give Kalm an orgasm (no homo) by publicly financing all federal elections and finding a Constitutional way to limit private donations. Wouldn't that just entrench all the incumbents that you claim to hate so much?

No.

OK, gotcha. So Bernie's horde of $27 givers would ensure perfect democracy, with consistent turnover of office holders. Check. End of debate.

Ivytalk wrote:

kalm wrote:
No.

OK, gotcha. So Bernie's horde of $27 givers would ensure perfect democracy, with consistent turnover of office holders. Check. End of debate.

Nothing is perfect Oh Butt Hurt one and keep it in your pants!

A majority of Americans including conks want money out of politics. You are in the extreme minority of wrong here.

kalm wrote:

Ivytalk wrote: OK, gotcha. So Bernie's horde of $27 givers would ensure perfect democracy, with consistent turnover of office holders. Check. End of debate.

Nothing is perfect Oh Butt Hurt one and keep it in your pants!

A majority of Americans including conks want money out of politics. You are in the extreme minority of wrong here.

A majority of Americans, including donks and conks, believe in the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny too.

Money is speech. Unlimited spending, full disclosure of donors. Let the voters decide. Deal with it.

These Never Trump retards are still stuck on stupid. These idiots don't realize that if they were able to steal the nomination from Trump that it would cause such a backlash that Hildacunt might literally win all 50 states..

They are too stupid to realize Trump is the nominee and there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

BDKJMU wrote:These Never Trump retards are still stuck on stupid. These idiots don't realize that if they were able to steal the nomination from Trump that it would cause such a backlash that Hildacunt might literally win all 50 states..

They are too stupid to realize Trump is the nominee and there's not a damn thing they can do about it.

Hey, Maurice, at the rate Drumpf is going, he'll lose all 50 states (including Utah) anyway!

Ivytalk wrote:

kalm wrote:
Nothing is perfect Oh Butt Hurt one and keep it in your pants!

A majority of Americans including conks want money out of politics. You are in the extreme minority of wrong here.

A majority of Americans, including donks and conks, believe in the tooth fairy and the Easter Bunny too.

Money is speech. Unlimited spending, full disclosure of donors. Let the voters decide. Deal with it.

Money is not speech and you know the founders would agree with me here.