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GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:34 am
by Skjellyfetti
:clap:
House Republicans on Wednesday failed to muster the two-thirds majority needed to block the Obama administration’s controversial standards for financial advisers.

The House voted 239-180 to block the fiduciary rule, well more than 40 votes short of the total needed.

Wednesday night's vote came as Democrats staged a sit-in on the House floor, starting around nearly 12 hours earlier, to push for a vote on legislation to prevent terror suspects from buying guns.

House GOP leaders had originally scheduled the vote for earlier in the day, but pushed it back due to Democrats' sit-in and kept the chamber in recess until calling the vote on the fiduciary rule around 10 p.m.

Throughout the roll call, Democrats continued their protests with chants of "No bill, no break!" and at one point broke into singing "We Shall Overcome" with modified lyrics.

The Labor Department issued the fiduciary rule in April, requiring financial advisers to act in the best interest of their clients who are saving for retirement.

The House and Senate passed a disapproval measure earlier this year blocking the regulation under the Congressional Review Act, but President Obama vetoed it.

Democrats say the rule will protect consumers from bad investment advice, but Republicans argue it could force financial advisers to raise their prices, shutting out lower-income workers.

While the attempt to overturn the rule in Congress has now failed, the Obama administration must still fend off a lawsuit against the fiduciary rule filed by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and several other business groups. That court fight could drag on for months.
http://thehill.com/regulation/284468-go ... viser-rule

Re: GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:34 am
by Baldy
Skjellyfetti wrote::clap:
House Republicans on Wednesday failed to muster the two-thirds majority needed to block the Obama administration’s controversial standards for financial advisers.

The House voted 239-180 to block the fiduciary rule, well more than 40 votes short of the total needed.

Wednesday night's vote came as Democrats staged a sit-in on the House floor, starting around nearly 12 hours earlier, to push for a vote on legislation to prevent terror suspects from buying guns.

House GOP leaders had originally scheduled the vote for earlier in the day, but pushed it back due to Democrats' sit-in and kept the chamber in recess until calling the vote on the fiduciary rule around 10 p.m.

Throughout the roll call, Democrats continued their protests with chants of "No bill, no break!" and at one point broke into singing "We Shall Overcome" with modified lyrics.

The Labor Department issued the fiduciary rule in April, requiring financial advisers to act in the best interest of their clients who are saving for retirement.

The House and Senate passed a disapproval measure earlier this year blocking the regulation under the Congressional Review Act, but President Obama vetoed it.

Democrats say the rule will protect consumers from bad investment advice, but Republicans argue it could force financial advisers to raise their prices, shutting out lower-income workers.

While the attempt to overturn the rule in Congress has now failed, the Obama administration must still fend off a lawsuit against the fiduciary rule filed by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and several other business groups. That court fight could drag on for months.
http://thehill.com/regulation/284468-go ... viser-rule
At least Obama's financial advisor doesn't have to deal with the riff-raff in the middle class now. :coffee:

Re: GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:54 am
by kalm
Baldy wrote:
At least Obama's financial advisor doesn't have to deal with the riff-raff in the middle class now. :coffee:
:nod:

Obama...the champion of the little guy!

:rofl:

Re: GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:43 am
by YoUDeeMan
Won't matter...Obama and Hillary won't bother to enforce this law. :nod:

And, from a fiduciary standpoint, it will be pretty much unenforceable anyway. :nod: Who can accurately predict the market for any particular person's investments?

This is purely for entertainment and to get idiots to think the Democrats are doing something to protect their ignorant voting block.

How many bankers went to jail after Obama promised to hold people accountable?

How much money has Hillary made from making Wall Street speeches (yeah, those speeches she refuses to make public)?

This is a non-story...a big show for the masses. The same masses that got us Hillary and Trump. :rofl:

Re: GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:55 am
by GannonFan
Kinda like the sub-prime loan thing. We'll put in place laws to guard against people potentially taking advantage of lower-income people (who by laws like this are also defined as less intelligent people because of their lower income) and in a few years we'll decry the fact that lower income people aren't being served by these services and we'll demand they have more access to these things, risks be damned. It's like a political narrative that is in a perpetual loop.

Re: GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:45 pm
by Pwns
GannonFan wrote:....and in a few years we'll decry the fact that lower income people aren't being served by these services and we'll demand they have more access to these things, risks be damned. It's like a political narrative that is in a perpetual loop.
And you know there will be cries of rrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaacism to go with it.

Re: RE: Re: GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:59 pm
by DSUrocks07
GannonFan wrote:Kinda like the sub-prime loan thing. We'll put in place laws to guard against people potentially taking advantage of lower-income people (who by laws like this are also defined as less intelligent people because of their lower income) and in a few years we'll decry the fact that lower income people aren't being served by these services and we'll demand they have more access to these things, risks be damned. It's like a political narrative that is in a perpetual loop.
Don't worry, the Democrats will put forth a government subsidy program to "assist" with the costs of getting a fiduciary.

At this point they have too.

Maybe they'll stage another sit-in for it.

Otherwise they just priced out financial advisory services to their own constituency.

Democrats = defenders of the rich and of the Wall Street Banksters :rofl:

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Re: GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:12 am
by kalm
GannonFan wrote:Kinda like the sub-prime loan thing. We'll put in place laws to guard against people potentially taking advantage of lower-income people (who by laws like this are also defined as less intelligent people because of their lower income) and in a few years we'll decry the fact that lower income people aren't being served by these services and we'll demand they have more access to these things, risks be damned. It's like a political narrative that is in a perpetual loop.
Good points. And it's not as if the lending industry was dragged kicking and screaming to make sub-prime loans. Or that builders, realtors, and hedge fund managers hated the idea. :lol:

Re: GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:53 am
by Skjellyfetti
Why are y'all focusing on lower income people?

The rules simply state that financial advisors must act in the best interest of their clients and be upfront about fees, etc.



The only thing about lower income folks is the Republican argument - that it will price out lower income people.

It will only price out lower income people because they will see the fees and the true cost of the financial advisor up front and will see that they can not afford it or that it is not worth it. :lol:

The rules have nothing to do about lower income people. :?

Re: GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:42 am
by Baldy
kalm wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Kinda like the sub-prime loan thing. We'll put in place laws to guard against people potentially taking advantage of lower-income people (who by laws like this are also defined as less intelligent people because of their lower income) and in a few years we'll decry the fact that lower income people aren't being served by these services and we'll demand they have more access to these things, risks be damned. It's like a political narrative that is in a perpetual loop.
Good points. And it's not as if the lending industry was dragged kicking and screaming to make sub-prime loans. Or that builders, realtors, and hedge fund managers hated the idea. :lol:
The government gave them a license to seal, legally. Anybody would have done it, and everyone did. :nod:

Re: RE: Re: GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:25 am
by DSUrocks07
Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
Good points. And it's not as if the lending industry was dragged kicking and screaming to make sub-prime loans. Or that builders, realtors, and hedge fund managers hated the idea. :lol:
The government gave them a license to seal, legally. Anybody would have done it, and everyone did. :nod:
So you're saying we need....


REGULATIONS????

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Re: GOP fails to block Obama's financial advisor standards:

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:02 am
by kalm
Baldy wrote:
kalm wrote:
Good points. And it's not as if the lending industry was dragged kicking and screaming to make sub-prime loans. Or that builders, realtors, and hedge fund managers hated the idea. :lol:
The government gave them a license to seal, legally. Anybody would have done it, and everyone did. :nod:
That's a little crazy.