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kalm wrote:1st hit I got.

WORLDPOST
ISIS Claims Responsibility For Nice Terror Attack

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_578a0 ... c3ee51128b

kalm wrote:1st hit I got.

WORLDPOST
ISIS Claims Responsibility For Nice Terror Attack

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_578a0 ... c3ee51128b

Chizzang wrote:

kalm wrote:1st hit I got.

WORLDPOST
ISIS Claims Responsibility For Nice Terror Attack

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_578a0 ... c3ee51128b

This ^ is what happens when people use Yahoo...

kalm wrote:

Chizzang wrote:

This ^ is what happens when people use Yahoo...

When I search, I always use Google. Yahoo and Bing blow.

In this case I simply went to a prominent lame stream media site expecting you to be right.

Threads like this happen when otherwise thoughtful liberals turn to guns...... and Breitbart.

Chizzang wrote:

kalm wrote:
When I search, I always use Google. Yahoo and Bing blow.

In this case I simply went to a prominent lame stream media site expecting you to be right.

Threads like this happen when otherwise thoughtful liberals turn to guns...... and Breitbart.

The leader of the free world will not call this event what it was...

Chizzang wrote:

kalm wrote:
When I search, I always use Google. Yahoo and Bing blow.

In this case I simply went to a prominent lame stream media site expecting you to be right.

Threads like this happen when otherwise thoughtful liberals turn to guns...... and Breitbart.

The leader of the free world will not call this event what it was...

kalm wrote:

Chizzang wrote:



The leader of the free world will not call this event what it was...

An act of Islamic terrorism?

He should.

But I'll remind you that the phrase "religion of peace" was coined by GWB.

There are a number of problems with the timing and content of Gingrich’s statement. At a moment when the world—and by “world,” I mean all non-Muslims and Muslims who reject the ideology of ISIS and the theology of radical Islamism—should be united in its defense of enlightened civilization, Gingrich, and others like him, do ISIS a favor by making Islam itself the culprit. The war we are experiencing is not primarily a war between civilizations, but a war within a civilization. ISIS, and its fellow travelers, will ultimately be defeated only by Muslims themselves, including Muslims who adhere to Islamic law. Muslims who meet with ISIS disapproval—which is to say, most Muslims—are the constant targets of murderous Islamists. The countries that are fighting ISIS include several Muslim-led, Muslim-majority states, and include states that are governed by Islamic law. Among other goals, ISIS seeks to convince devout Muslims that there is no place for them in the West. Suggestions like Gingrich’s reinforce this core ISIS message.

There is much to critique in Gingrich’s approach, but I was struck in particular by his statement that “Sharia is incompatible with Western civilization.” One of the Middle East countries that officially endorses sharia as a legal system is one of Gingrich’s most favored countries, Israel, which is, by his lights—and mine—a crucial component of Western civilization. Israel’s sharia courts, which are supervised by the Ministry of Justice, allow the more than 15 percent of Israel’s population that is Muslim to seek religious recourse for their personal dilemmas. These courts have been in operation since Israel’s founding, and yet the country does not seem to have been fatally undermined by their existence. Israel’s sharia courts raise complicated mosque-state questions (and the power of the Israeli rabbinate raises complicated synagogue-state questions) but, so far, Western civilization, in its Israeli democratic manifestation, seems to be holding on.

kalm wrote:So it turns out that 1) Newt is still a dumbass, 2) Israel supports Sharia Law and 3) we might just need other muslims to stop the bad muslims.

Hmmmm.

There are a number of problems with the timing and content of Gingrich’s statement. At a moment when the world—and by “world,” I mean all non-Muslims and Muslims who reject the ideology of ISIS and the theology of radical Islamism—should be united in its defense of enlightened civilization, Gingrich, and others like him, do ISIS a favor by making Islam itself the culprit. The war we are experiencing is not primarily a war between civilizations, but a war within a civilization. ISIS, and its fellow travelers, will ultimately be defeated only by Muslims themselves, including Muslims who adhere to Islamic law. Muslims who meet with ISIS disapproval—which is to say, most Muslims—are the constant targets of murderous Islamists. The countries that are fighting ISIS include several Muslim-led, Muslim-majority states, and include states that are governed by Islamic law. Among other goals, ISIS seeks to convince devout Muslims that there is no place for them in the West. Suggestions like Gingrich’s reinforce this core ISIS message.

There is much to critique in Gingrich’s approach, but I was struck in particular by his statement that “Sharia is incompatible with Western civilization.” One of the Middle East countries that officially endorses sharia as a legal system is one of Gingrich’s most favored countries, Israel, which is, by his lights—and mine—a crucial component of Western civilization. Israel’s sharia courts, which are supervised by the Ministry of Justice, allow the more than 15 percent of Israel’s population that is Muslim to seek religious recourse for their personal dilemmas. These courts have been in operation since Israel’s founding, and yet the country does not seem to have been fatally undermined by their existence. Israel’s sharia courts raise complicated mosque-state questions (and the power of the Israeli rabbinate raises complicated synagogue-state questions) but, so far, Western civilization, in its Israeli democratic manifestation, seems to be holding on.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... ia/491471/

Chizzang wrote:Israel is the Nation State equivalent of a pathological serial killer / Business Man

see: America Psycho

kalm wrote:

Among other goals, ISIS seeks to convince devout Muslims that there is no place for them in the West. Suggestions like Gingrich’s reinforce this core ISIS message.

CID1990 wrote:For the few hundred thousand years since we became "modern" humans we've been tribal. Not getting along is in our DNA. I'm not sure why now it is suddenly a revelation to so many people.

Maybe we should stop trying to force incompatible cultures together in the name of our Lord God Diversity blessed be his name amen

Cluck U wrote:

kalm wrote:

Anyone else find it funny when a liberal article talks about it being bad that conservative people in the US say that there is no place for conservative Muslins in America...but the same liberal folks go on and on about how there is no place for conservative Christian thinking in America?

Chizzang wrote:

CID1990 wrote:For the few hundred thousand years since we became "modern" humans we've been tribal. Not getting along is in our DNA. I'm not sure why now it is suddenly a revelation to so many people.

Maybe we should stop trying to force incompatible cultures together in the name of our Lord God Diversity blessed be his name amen

If you're not willing to die for freedom and democracy
You'll never have it - period - The End

Democracy cannot be given to people
It's not Starbucks or McDonalds
There is only ONE WAY to get it

Until fighting age Islamic men (which will never happen) over throw their nations power structures
We'll have exactly what we have right now

CID1990 wrote:For the few hundred thousand years since we became "modern" humans we've been tribal. Not getting along is in our DNA. I'm not sure why now it is suddenly a revelation to so many people.

Maybe we should stop trying to force incompatible cultures together in the name of our Lord God Diversity blessed be his name amen

DSUrocks07 wrote:

Cluck U wrote:
Anyone else find it funny when a liberal article talks about it being bad that conservative people in the US say that there is no place for conservative Muslins in America...but the same liberal folks go on and on about how there is no place for conservative Christian thinking in America?

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AshevilleApp wrote:

CID1990 wrote:For the few hundred thousand years since we became "modern" humans we've been tribal. Not getting along is in our DNA. I'm not sure why now it is suddenly a revelation to so many people.

Maybe we should stop trying to force incompatible cultures together in the name of our Lord God Diversity blessed be his name amen

So this 240 year old experiment we have here is doomed to failure? I agree that the whole "melting pot" idea is BS though.