So what's the course of action to take against Islamist violence?

[Pwns]

A. Pretend like there's not an epidemic of violence by Islamists in Europe and the US.

B. Pretend like gun control is the answer in spite of the fact that it happens in Europe, who has Obama's "common sense" gun laws.

C. More security and surveillance that goes on the assumption elderly white women are just as likely to commit a mass shooting as a radicalized young Muslim male.

D. Just accept the killings as collateral damage for a diverse, culturally-enriched society.

[Appaholic]

I'm gonna go with D

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[Pwns]

I'm gonna go with D

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You look very familiar. Have you been around here before, perhaps long ago?

[Appaholic]

I'm gonna go with D

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You look very familiar. Have you been around here before, perhaps long ago?

The prodigal Appa has come home....

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[kalm]

E. Get butt hurt while ignoring the fact we have supported and funded authoritarian Islamic regimes for the past 50 years.

[93henfan]

Hillary has already gone with "all of the above". That's what you'll get if she's elected.

[Appaholic]

E. Get butt hurt while ignoring the fact we have supported and funded authoritarian Islamic regimes for the past 50 years.

Well, now I have to change my answer to D. Having already known our role in creating the current mess compelled me to answer D earlier...might as well accept & ignore since we certainly have played a strong role in creating this environment. It's a little disingenuous to feign outrage....

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[Appaholic]

Excuse me....change my answer to "E"...

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[Ivytalk]

F. Ram a Curtis LeMay special up their azzes and turn Raqqa into asphalt.

[CID1990]

Suck it up and don't live in cities.

[CAA Flagship]

G. Send ISIS air conditioners made by Carrier in Mexico.

[Chizzang]

Put on big boy pants...

1) Admit (proclaim) that Islam has a global problem
2) Name that problem specifically for what it is - a lack of a religious reformation
3) Explain clearly what a religious reformation is in modern terms to the world
4) Announce that ALL Islamic males of fighting age must chose ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER
5) Be the adults in the global conversation about Religious Reformation
6) Explain clearly that "reformed Islam will be accepted" globally
7) Unreformed Islam is a dead end and is a death sentence

[kalm]

Put on big boy pants...

1) Admit (proclaim) that Islam has a global problem
2) Name that problem specifically for what it is - a lack of a religious reformation
3) Explain clearly what a religious reformation is in modern terms to the world
4) Announce that ALL Islamic males of fighting age must chose ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER
5) Be the adults in the global conversation about Religious Reformation
6) Explain clearly that "reformed Islam will be accepted" globally
7) Unreformed Islam is a dead end and is a death sentence

It's about time you posted something constructive on this subject.

Now, how many of them can actually read this before becoming radicalized?

[Pwns]

Put on big boy pants...

1) Admit (proclaim) that Islam has a global problem
2) Name that problem specifically for what it is - a lack of a religious reformation
3) Explain clearly what a religious reformation is in modern terms to the world
4) Announce that ALL Islamic males of fighting age must chose ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER
5) Be the adults in the global conversation about Religious Reformation
6) Explain clearly that "reformed Islam will be accepted" globally
7) Unreformed Islam is a dead end and is a death sentence

Think of debating a topic on this board with someone who is stubborn and dogmatic and imagine a person being considerably less educated and even more stubborn and dogmatic. That's what you would be up against, here.

Though I will give it to you that what you propose will do a lot more good than anything that 0bama or Hilldog will do like banning scary-looking weapons or some kind of mandatory diversensitolerance training for all Americans.

Personally, I'd like to see us reach energy independence so we can be as indifferent about what happens in the middle east as we are about what happens in sub-Saharan Africa. But we're not going to get any closer to that goal with a pantywaist renewable-only strategy that 0bama is using and that the Hildabeast will continue.

[CID1990]

Put on big boy pants...

1) Admit (proclaim) that Islam has a global problem
2) Name that problem specifically for what it is - a lack of a religious reformation
3) Explain clearly what a religious reformation is in modern terms to the world
4) Announce that ALL Islamic males of fighting age must chose ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER
5) Be the adults in the global conversation about Religious Reformation
6) Explain clearly that "reformed Islam will be accepted" globally
7) Unreformed Islam is a dead end and is a death sentence

So at what age do they become culpable for being unreformed? Do we just kill the families of the unreformed regardless of age, or do we wait until they are 18 and then kill them?

[Chizzang]

Put on big boy pants...

1) Admit (proclaim) that Islam has a global problem
2) Name that problem specifically for what it is - a lack of a religious reformation
3) Explain clearly what a religious reformation is in modern terms to the world
4) Announce that ALL Islamic males of fighting age must chose ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER
5) Be the adults in the global conversation about Religious Reformation
6) Explain clearly that "reformed Islam will be accepted" globally
7) Unreformed Islam is a dead end and is a death sentence

So at what age do they become culpable for being unreformed? Do we just kill the families of the unreformed regardless of age, or do we wait until they are 18 and then kill them?

First:
We build a wall



Oh and there is no solution (BTW)
so really it's just live where they ain't and enjoy your life

and this:
We can educate them from behind

[mrklean]

Build a wall.......................LOL

Build dezzzz NUTS!!!!!

[JohnStOnge]

Announce that the next time there is any kind of Islamist attack we will nuke Mecca. Say we will give everybody in Mecca plenty of time to get out and clear. But if there is any violence in the name of Islam will will destroy Islam's holiest site.

And if we're concerned about radioactive fallout and don't want to nuke at it we can say we will level it in another way. Either way there's nothing the Islamic World can do to stop us from doing it and they know it.

Then say that if leveling Mecca doesn't do it we will move on to the second holiest site.

BTW if we tell them that they will be given time to clear and they don't, that's on them.

[DSUrocks07]

Announce that the next time there is any kind of Islamist attack we will nuke Mecca. Say we will give everybody in Mecca plenty of time to get out and clear. But if there is any violence in the name of Islam will will destroy Islam's holiest site.

And if we're concerned about radioactive fallout and don't want to nuke at it we can say we will level it in another way. Either way there's nothing the Islamic World can do to stop us from doing it and they know it.

Then say that if leveling Mecca doesn't do it we will move on to the second holiest site.

BTW if we tell them that they will be given time to clear and they don't, that's on them.

That's EXACTLY what these terrorist groups want the US to do. Solidify the identity of the "Great Satan" and unite ALL of Islam against it.

I dont care how "moderate" a Muslim is, if you blow up Mecca because of a single man or small group, its going to piss them off.

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[Ivytalk]

Build a wall.......................LOL

Build dezzzz NUTS!!!!!

Are you high, kleany?

[JohnStOnge]

That's EXACTLY what these terrorist groups want the US to do. Solidify the identity of the "Great Satan" and unite ALL of Islam against it.

I dont care how "moderate" a Muslim is, if you blow up Mecca because of a single man or small group, its going to piss them off.

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All Islam can't do squat if the Western World decides it's not going to take this shit anymore. Another thing is that, psychologically, doing stuff like that will impress upon them how powerless they are if the Western World decides not to play nice with them. Go after what is really important to them. And it's not peoples' lives. It's stuff like holy sites and such. Let them know that if this crap continues the things that are important to them are going to be destroyed and there's absolutely nothing they can do about it.

[AshevilleApp]

That's EXACTLY what these terrorist groups want the US to do. Solidify the identity of the "Great Satan" and unite ALL of Islam against it.

I dont care how "moderate" a Muslim is, if you blow up Mecca because of a single man or small group, its going to piss them off.

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All Islam can't do squat if the Western World decides it's not going to take this **** anymore. Another thing is that, psychologically, doing stuff like that will impress upon them how powerless they are if the Western World decides not to play nice with them. Go after what is really important to them. And it's not peoples' lives. It's stuff like holy sites and such. Let them know that if this crap continues the things that are important to them are going to be destroyed and there's absolutely nothing they can do about it.

So what countries make up the Western World, and how do we get them to play?

[DSUrocks07]

All Islam can't do squat if the Western World decides it's not going to take this **** anymore. Another thing is that, psychologically, doing stuff like that will impress upon them how powerless they are if the Western World decides not to play nice with them. Go after what is really important to them. And it's not peoples' lives. It's stuff like holy sites and such. Let them know that if this crap continues the things that are important to them are going to be destroyed and there's absolutely nothing they can do about it.

So what countries make up the Western World, and how do we get them to play?

Not to mention that Islam is the second largest religion in the world with 1.7 billion followers.

You just KNOW that with the desires of the radicals being and all out holy war, that Jerusalem and Rome will have HUGE targets marked on them as well.

You're only playing right into their hands.

Islam itself need to not only promote the truth that these barbaric actions will no longer be tolerated in modern society, but they need to protect those that do speak out against this.

Sharia law has no place in a free society, and any group that tolerates it in the name of "diversity and acceptance" is only feeding into the problem.

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[DSUrocks07]

All Islam can't do squat if the Western World decides it's not going to take this **** anymore. Another thing is that, psychologically, doing stuff like that will impress upon them how powerless they are if the Western World decides not to play nice with them. Go after what is really important to them. And it's not peoples' lives. It's stuff like holy sites and such. Let them know that if this crap continues the things that are important to them are going to be destroyed and there's absolutely nothing they can do about it.

So what countries make up the Western World, and how do we get them to play?

Sounds like we need another "Coalition of the Willing".

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[Chizzang]

All Islam can't do squat if the Western World decides it's not going to take this **** anymore. Another thing is that, psychologically, doing stuff like that will impress upon them how powerless they are if the Western World decides not to play nice with them. Go after what is really important to them. And it's not peoples' lives. It's stuff like holy sites and such. Let them know that if this crap continues the things that are important to them are going to be destroyed and there's absolutely nothing they can do about it.

So what countries make up the Western World, and how do we get them to play?

The "western world" is mostly code for America
a light dusting of European support is all that can ever be counted on (at best)
for anything that requires intestinal fortitude and steadfast commitment

And we can't stop licking Saudi Arabia's balls
because money is more important than ANYTHING



As long as we stay that way we are
This will not change

If we said:
To hell with the world economy and truly waged war on Islam
We would tank this thing in ways too abstract to even imagine - but it would tank