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What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:38 am
by kalm
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And it's all perfectly fine because according to conk judges, Media Matter's David Brock, Gannonfan, and Ivytalk there is no quid pro quo. :rofl:

(The David Sirota piece that is linked to in the article has substantially more evidence of the corruption)
The assertions above obscure the problems unearthed through years of investigative reporting on the foundation. Journalist David Sirota, who has reported extensively on the Clinton Foundation, rounded up a sample of the stories that provide a window into Clinton Foundation issues:

The Washington Post found that two months after Secretary Clinton encouraged the Russian government to approve a $3.7 billion deal with Boeing, the aerospace company announced a $900,000 donation to the Clinton Foundation.
The Wall Street Journal found that Clinton made an “unusual intervention” to announce a legal settlement with UBS, after which the Swiss bank increased its donations to, and involvement with, the Clinton Foundation.
The New York Times reported that a Russian company assumed control of major uranium reserves in a deal that required State Department approval, as the chairman of the company involved in the transaction donated $2.35 million to the Clinton Foundation...................


In fact, the more Clinton’s allies have worked to defend big money donations to the Clinton Foundation, the more closely they resemble the right-wing principles they once denounced.

In one telling argument in defense of the Clinton Foundation, Media Matters, another group run by David Brock, argued this week that there was “no evidence of ethics breaches” because there was no explicit quid pro quo cited by the AP. The Media Matters piece mocked press figures for focusing on the “optics” of corruption surrounding the foundation.

Such a standard is quite a reversal for the group. In a piece published by Media Matters only two years ago, the organization criticized conservatives for focusing only on quid pro quo corruption — the legal standard used to decide the Citizens United and McCutcheon Supreme Court decisions — calling such a narrow focus a “new perspective of campaign finance” that dismisses “concerns about institutional corruption in politics.” The piece notes that ethics laws concerning the role of money in politics follow a standard, set forth since the Watergate scandal, in which even the appearance, or in other words, the “optics” of corruption, is cause for concern.
https://theintercept.com/2016/08/26/cli ... tion-spin/

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:38 am
by Pwns
Simple solution...progdonks need to make a stand and vote for Jill or even Gary.

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:41 am
by GannonFan
kalm wrote:Image

And it's all perfectly fine because according to conk judges, Media Matter's David Brock, Gannonfan, and Ivytalk there is no quid pro quo. :rofl:

(The David Sirota piece that is linked to in the article has substantially more evidence of the corruption)
The assertions above obscure the problems unearthed through years of investigative reporting on the foundation. Journalist David Sirota, who has reported extensively on the Clinton Foundation, rounded up a sample of the stories that provide a window into Clinton Foundation issues:

The Washington Post found that two months after Secretary Clinton encouraged the Russian government to approve a $3.7 billion deal with Boeing, the aerospace company announced a $900,000 donation to the Clinton Foundation.
The Wall Street Journal found that Clinton made an “unusual intervention” to announce a legal settlement with UBS, after which the Swiss bank increased its donations to, and involvement with, the Clinton Foundation.
The New York Times reported that a Russian company assumed control of major uranium reserves in a deal that required State Department approval, as the chairman of the company involved in the transaction donated $2.35 million to the Clinton Foundation...................


In fact, the more Clinton’s allies have worked to defend big money donations to the Clinton Foundation, the more closely they resemble the right-wing principles they once denounced.

In one telling argument in defense of the Clinton Foundation, Media Matters, another group run by David Brock, argued this week that there was “no evidence of ethics breaches” because there was no explicit quid pro quo cited by the AP. The Media Matters piece mocked press figures for focusing on the “optics” of corruption surrounding the foundation.

Such a standard is quite a reversal for the group. In a piece published by Media Matters only two years ago, the organization criticized conservatives for focusing only on quid pro quo corruption — the legal standard used to decide the Citizens United and McCutcheon Supreme Court decisions — calling such a narrow focus a “new perspective of campaign finance” that dismisses “concerns about institutional corruption in politics.” The piece notes that ethics laws concerning the role of money in politics follow a standard, set forth since the Watergate scandal, in which even the appearance, or in other words, the “optics” of corruption, is cause for concern.
https://theintercept.com/2016/08/26/cli ... tion-spin/
And if you would focus more on making these things transparent rather than focusing on trying to squelch free speech we wouldn't in such a mess. You're fighting the wrong battle and hence, are getting in the way. For shame. :kisswink:

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:42 am
by kalm
Pwns wrote:Simple solution...progdonks need to make a stand and vote for Jill or even Gary.
yes they should as should conservatives. 3rd party success is a step in the right direction.

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:52 am
by andy7171
Yet, Kalmy will still vote For her.

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:01 am
by SDHornet
Pay for play with the CF? Shocker.

kalm, I do like your spin on making hilldogs corruption out to be the conks fault thought. How nuanced of you. :lol: :clap:

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:05 am
by Baldy
SDHornet wrote:Pay for play with the CF? Shocker.

kalm, I do like your spin on making hilldogs corruption out to be the conks fault thought. How nuanced of you. :lol: :clap:
Team Brown FTW! :rofl: :notworthy:

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:55 am
by Chizzang
At what point does a lifetime politician cross the line - officially - into just being a common criminal..?

:ohno:

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:10 am
by Skjellyfetti
*Oligarchs

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Trump donated $100,000 to Clinton Foundation. Was there any quid pro quo there?
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/st ... oundation/

:coffee:

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:12 am
by ALPHAGRIZ1
Chizzang wrote:At what point does a lifetime politician cross the line - officially - into just being a common criminal..?

:ohno:
When they are elected........................

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:29 am
by kalm
SDHornet wrote:Pay for play with the CF? Shocker.

kalm, I do like your spin on making hilldogs corruption out to be the conks fault thought. How nuanced of you. :lol: :clap:
1. I consider her a conk.

2. Citizens United, especially the quid pro quo argument was pretty much a conk issue. That's not to say many donks aren't fully taking advantage of it and democratic establishment has for quite some time. There are also a few conks (see Buddy Romar) who aren't afraid to label it for what it is...corruption.

Bottom line, if you're pro-Citizens United (conk or donk) you are pro-corruption and pro oligarch.

You has it!

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Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:41 am
by andy7171
Still voting for Her.

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:04 am
by kalm
andy7171 wrote:Still voting for Her.
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Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:13 am
by Chizzang
kalm wrote:
andy7171 wrote:Still voting for Her.
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:rofl:

BTW:
For anybody wondering
It doesn't matter who kalm votes for Hilary is winning Washington State by a LANDSLIDE

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:22 am
by 93henfan
Gee, I think I'll make a cute stand and vote for Gary Johnson. I want to ensure that Hillary gets elected.

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:33 am
by andy7171
Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
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:rofl:

BTW:
For anybody wondering
It doesn't matter who kalm votes for Hilary is winning Washington State by a LANDSLIDE
And he's part of it. :|

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:37 am
by Ivytalk
93henfan wrote:Gee, I think I'll make a cute stand and vote for Gary Johnson.
It's called a conscience. Not that you'd recognize that. :coffee:

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:59 am
by 93henfan
Ivytalk wrote:
93henfan wrote:Gee, I think I'll make a cute stand and vote for Gary Johnson.
It's called a conscience. Not that you'd recognize that. :coffee:
My conscience tells me not to let Hillary Clinton appoint the Supreme Court justices that will ensure a liberal majority for the rest of your lifetime.

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:14 pm
by Ivytalk
93henfan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
It's called a conscience. Not that you'd recognize that. :coffee:
My conscience tells me not to let Hillary Clinton appoint the Supreme Court justices that will ensure a liberal majority for the rest of your lifetime.
Meh. We survived the Warren Court, we can handle the dillweeds that Hildabeast would appoint (if she can get them confirmed, without the opposition of the GOP Senators that your millstone POTUS candidate is dragging down to defeat). So don't talk to me about your conscience. :tothehand:

Besides, the Johnson/Stein vote isn't likely to be decisive in many states, least of all the swing states. Old duopolies die hard.

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:24 pm
by SDHornet
Ivytalk wrote:
93henfan wrote:
My conscience tells me not to let Hillary Clinton appoint the Supreme Court justices that will ensure a liberal majority for the rest of your lifetime.
Meh. We survived the Warren Court, we can handle the dillweeds that Hildabeast would appoint (if she can get them confirmed, without the opposition of the GOP Senators that your millstone POTUS candidate is dragging down to defeat). So don't talk to me about your conscience. :tothehand:

Besides, the Johnson/Stein vote isn't likely to be decisive in many states, least of all the swing states. Old duopolies die hard.
No kidding, Senate will easily swing to the donks thanks to Trump. :lol:
And 93 blaming the Johnson for hilldogs easy impending win? :suspicious: :rofl:

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:24 pm
by kalm
SDHornet wrote:Pay for play with the CF? Shocker.

kalm, I do like your spin on making hilldogs corruption out to be the conks fault thought. How nuanced of you. :lol: :clap:
Oh...and I almost forgot...David Brock must be a conk now too...at least according to you and Baldy.

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:27 pm
by SDHornet
kalm wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Pay for play with the CF? Shocker.

kalm, I do like your spin on making hilldogs corruption out to be the conks fault thought. How nuanced of you. :lol: :clap:
Oh...and I almost forgot...David Brock must be a conk now too...at least according to you and Baldy.
Don't know, don't care. I just find it funny that everything is a conks fault according to the MSM...which you so willfully come on here and parrot. Accountability be damned!!!! :lol: :dunce:

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:34 pm
by kalm
SDHornet wrote:
kalm wrote:
Oh...and I almost forgot...David Brock must be a conk now too...at least according to you and Baldy.
Don't know, don't care. I just find it funny that everything is a conks fault according to the MSM...which you so willfully come on here and parrot. Accountability be damned!!!! :lol: :dunce:
I can see you're very confused.

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:36 pm
by 93henfan
SDHornet wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:
Meh. We survived the Warren Court, we can handle the dillweeds that Hildabeast would appoint (if she can get them confirmed, without the opposition of the GOP Senators that your millstone POTUS candidate is dragging down to defeat). So don't talk to me about your conscience. :tothehand:

Besides, the Johnson/Stein vote isn't likely to be decisive in many states, least of all the swing states. Old duopolies die hard.
No kidding, Senate will easily swing to the donks thanks to Trump. :lol:
And 93 blaming the Johnson for hilldogs easy impending win? :suspicious: :rofl:
It's not Johnson's fault that a significant portion of the Republican Party (RIP) has no backbone and is running scared to him.

Re: What an Oligarch Looks Like

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:37 pm
by SDHornet
93henfan wrote:
SDHornet wrote: No kidding, Senate will easily swing to the donks thanks to Trump. :lol:
And 93 blaming the Johnson for hilldogs easy impending win? :suspicious: :rofl:
It's not Johnson's fault that a significant portion of the Republican Party (RIP) has no backbone and is running scared to him.
I can agree with that. :thumb: