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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby CID1990 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:26 am

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Here’s a photo of me in El Salvador on 4th of July in 2014

I fled the country for my safety a couple weeks later

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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby Ivytalk » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:37 am

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El Sal is #1 in the world in intentional homicide rate:

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indica ... 5/rankings

In that chart El Sal had a homicide rate of 108.6 per 100,000 persons in 2015 while the US had a rate of 4.9 in 2015.

I think I can see a reason other than economics for people wanting to get out of El Sal. Something like more than 20 times the homicide rate.


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Postby CID1990 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 4:59 am

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Here’s a photo of me in El Salvador on 4th of July in 2014

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The Mara sisters?


Yeah vicious gangbangers all of them


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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby GannonFan » Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:39 am

CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
El Sal is #1 in the world in intentional homicide rate:

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indica ... 5/rankings

In that chart El Sal had a homicide rate of 108.6 per 100,000 persons in 2015 while the US had a rate of 4.9 in 2015.

I think I can see a reason other than economics for people wanting to get out of El Sal. Something like more than 20 times the homicide rate.


It is hardly noticeable, John.

The rate could be the same in New Orleans and you wouldn’t know it. And the murder rate in El Sal is largely the Maras killing each other, with nobody seeing anything.

And for every piece of turf controlled by the Maras, there is another that is not. These “asylees” can flee there. Think of it as fleeing Chicago for Bloomington.


Come on, CID, why would we take your first-person, actually-been-there viewpoint when JSO has stats he's looked up on the internet. :rofl:
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Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby CID1990 » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:18 am

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CID1990 wrote:
It is hardly noticeable, John.

The rate could be the same in New Orleans and you wouldn’t know it. And the murder rate in El Sal is largely the Maras killing each other, with nobody seeing anything.

And for every piece of turf controlled by the Maras, there is another that is not. These “asylees” can flee there. Think of it as fleeing Chicago for Bloomington.


Come on, CID, why would we take your first-person, actually-been-there viewpoint when JSO has stats he's looked up on the internet. :rofl:


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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby CID1990 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:53 am

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Seriously -

What Klan murder in Missouri?


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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby kalm » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:35 am

So much for the 9th circuit being liberal... :ohno:

https://www.kxly.com/news/shareable-sto ... XLY_4_News
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Postby Pwns » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:34 am

https://slate.com/technology/2019/07/sp ... forum.html

I'm glad someone is paying attention to the all-important social justice aspect of space exploration. :lol:
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby 89Hen » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:02 am

kalm wrote:So much for the 9th circuit being liberal... :ohno:

https://www.kxly.com/news/shareable-sto ... XLY_4_News

Same court ruled that trans baristas could go topless, so there's that.
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Postby Pwns » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:39 pm

With Ross Perot dying there's a lot of talk about the 1992 election. This electoral map is unfathomable today and it's not a one-off. Things sure have changed.

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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby kalm » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:47 pm

89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:So much for the 9th circuit being liberal... :ohno:

https://www.kxly.com/news/shareable-sto ... XLY_4_News

Same court ruled that trans baristas could go topless, so there's that.


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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby JohnStOnge » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:49 pm

GannonFan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
It is hardly noticeable, John.

The rate could be the same in New Orleans and you wouldn’t know it. And the murder rate in El Sal is largely the Maras killing each other, with nobody seeing anything.

And for every piece of turf controlled by the Maras, there is another that is not. These “asylees” can flee there. Think of it as fleeing Chicago for Bloomington.


Come on, CID, why would we take your first-person, actually-been-there viewpoint when JSO has stats he's looked up on the internet. :rofl:


Because first person, actually been there experience is not as reliable as data are when it comes to stuff like that. People are very frequently deceived by their personal experiences.

As for the internet thing: We should all be grateful that we have that tool at our fingertips. El Salvador does have the highest intentional homicide rate in the world. 40 years ago one might have had to go to a library and look things up to verify that. Today that isn't necessary because the internet gives us access to the data.

Here's a story about another person who had first hand experience in El Salvador:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-w ... story.html
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Postby Ivytalk » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:27 pm

A trans woman is running for a State Senate seat in DE. Same one who addressed the DNC in ‘16. It’s a heavily Donk district, so the outcome isn’t in doubt.

The father is a lawyer that I knew pretty well. He and his wife had 3 biological sons. As it turns out, one is the trans, one is gay, and one is straight.
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby JohnStOnge » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:28 pm

Here's something you can find on the internet from the US State Department on El Salvador:

https://www.osac.gov/Country/ElSalvador ... f4aec90b02

It's not that it's the absolute worst. You can see from the overall travel advisory page at https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... ries.html/ that level 3 is the second highest caution level. But, at the same time, it's not Disneyland. It's not a good place to live and economics is not the only issue. Economics is probably related to the other issues. But it's not the only issue. It's not at all unreasonable to think that economics is not the only motivation for wanting to get out.
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby JohnStOnge » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:46 pm

CID1990 wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Come on, CID, why would we take your first-person, actually-been-there viewpoint when JSO has stats he's looked up on the internet. :rofl:


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I actually had to do my OWN GROCERY SHOPPING SOMETIMES

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https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... isory.html

Reconsider travel to El Salvador due to crime.

Violent crime, such as murder, assault, rape, and armed robbery, is common. Gang activity, such as extortion, violent street crime, and narcotics and arms trafficking, is widespread. Local police may lack the resources to respond effectively to serious criminal incidents.

Read the Safety and Security section on the country information page.

If you decide to travel to El Salvador:

Be aware of your surroundings.
Avoid walking or driving at night.
Do not physically resist any robbery attempt.
Be extra vigilant when visiting banks or ATMs.
Do not display signs of wealth, such as wearing expensive watches or jewelry.
Engage local guides certified by the national or local tourist authority when hiking in back country areas.
Visit our website for Travel to High-Risk Areas.
Enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) to receive Alerts and make it easier to locate you in an emergency.
Follow the Department of State on Facebook and Twitter.
Review the Crime and Safety Report for El Salvador.
U.S. citizens who travel abroad should always have a contingency plan for emergency situations. Review the Traveler’s Checklist.
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby Ivytalk » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:47 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:Here's something you can find on the internet from the US State Department on El Salvador:

https://www.osac.gov/Country/ElSalvador ... f4aec90b02

It's not that it's the absolute worst. You can see from the overall travel advisory page at https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... ries.html/ that level 3 is the second highest caution level. But, at the same time, it's not Disneyland. It's not a good place to live and economics is not the only issue. Economics is probably related to the other issues. But it's not the only issue. It's not at all unreasonable to think that economics is not the only motivation for wanting to get out.

So what’s your point? Do you think all those Northern Triangle hordes deserve asylum?
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby JohnStOnge » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:59 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Here's something you can find on the internet from the US State Department on El Salvador:

https://www.osac.gov/Country/ElSalvador ... f4aec90b02

It's not that it's the absolute worst. You can see from the overall travel advisory page at https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... ries.html/ that level 3 is the second highest caution level. But, at the same time, it's not Disneyland. It's not a good place to live and economics is not the only issue. Economics is probably related to the other issues. But it's not the only issue. It's not at all unreasonable to think that economics is not the only motivation for wanting to get out.

So what’s your point? Do you think all those Northern Triangle hordes deserve asylum?


I don't know how many deserve asylum. My point is that, in relative terms, it is a dangerous country and there are reasons for wanting to get out other than economics. There are 195 countries. The State Department has issued Level 3 or 4 travel advisories for 28 of them. The 4s are places like North Korea.

If you had been born in El Salvador you might very well might be wanting to get into the United States. We who were born here are very fortunate, or blessed, or whatever you want to call it.
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby CID1990 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:17 pm

JohnStOnge wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
It’s a hellhole, Ganny I tell you

I actually had to do my OWN GROCERY SHOPPING SOMETIMES

The struggle in El Salvador is real


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https://travel.state.gov/content/travel ... isory.html

Reconsider travel to El Salvador due to crime.

Violent crime, such as murder, assault, rape, and armed robbery, is common. Gang activity, such as extortion, violent street crime, and narcotics and arms trafficking, is widespread. Local police may lack the resources to respond effectively to serious criminal incidents.

Read the Safety and Security section on the country information page.

If you decide to travel to El Salvador:

Be aware of your surroundings.
Avoid walking or driving at night.
Do not physically resist any robbery attempt.
Be extra vigilant when visiting banks or ATMs.
Do not display signs of wealth, such as wearing expensive watches or jewelry.
Engage local guides certified by the national or local tourist authority when hiking in back country areas.
Visit our website for Travel to High-Risk Areas.
Enroll in the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) to receive Alerts and make it easier to locate you in an emergency.
Follow the Department of State on Facebook and Twitter.
Review the Crime and Safety Report for El Salvador.
U.S. citizens who travel abroad should always have a contingency plan for emergency situations. Review the Traveler’s Checklist.



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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby CAA Flagship » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:24 am

Ivytalk wrote:A trans woman is running for a State Senate seat in DE. Same one who addressed the DNC in ‘16. It’s a heavily Donk district, so the outcome isn’t in doubt.

The father is a lawyer that I knew pretty well. He and his wife had 3 biological sons. As it turns out, one is the trans, one is gay, and one is straight.

I'm sure that trifecta paid out well. :lol:

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Postby BDKJMU » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:07 am

British ambassador to US resigns. Course he started it. He should have known anything you put/send online nowadays can/will be hacked/leaked. There is no such thing as online and private anymore..

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BDKJMU wrote:British ambassador to US resigns. Course he started it. He should have known anything you put/send online nowadays can/will be hacked/leaked. There is no such thing as online and private anymore..

There's an old saying that golf doesn't build character, it reveals it.
But nothing reveals character more like electronic communication. :lol:

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BDKJMU wrote:British ambassador to US resigns. Course he started it. He should have known anything you put/send online nowadays can/will be hacked/leaked. There is no such thing as online and private anymore..

There's an old saying that golf doesn't build character, it reveals it.
But nothing reveals character more like electronic communication. :lol:


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Just wondering...are the people defending our Democratic norms going to go after a sitting member of congress calling for a boycott of a TV commentator for criticizing her? :geek:
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Re: Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

Postby CID1990 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:55 pm

BDKJMU wrote:British ambassador to US resigns. Course he started it. He should have known anything you put/send online nowadays can/will be hacked/leaked. There is no such thing as online and private anymore..


He shouldn’t have-

He was doing his job ... being candid for the benefit of the Foreign Office

If it was us, I’d say go after the leakers and land on them with both boots - I think 20 years busting rocks would suffice

But that’s up to the Brits


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