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Baldy wrote:Transgender rugby player playing with 'a smile on my face'
Born Nicholas Gareth Morgan, she played representative rugby for east Wales as a teenager.

Injury ended that initial involvement with the sport but, after a decade wrestling with gender identity and transitioning to female, Kelly is back playing - and loving it.

Having impressed in friendly fixtures for Porth Harlequins Ladies, she now hopes to compete in the Welsh women's leagues from September.

Transgender women participating in female sport is a divisive subject, and one not confined to Welsh rugby.

Welsh Rugby Union (WRU) guidelines - which are "fully committed to the principles of equality" - state Kelly can play providing her blood-measured testosterone levels are within a certain range.

And she has taken a daily dose of the female hormone oestrogen for the past 18 months.

"They don't half make you cry," she says. "My body shape, my size... it's scary the massive difference it makes. I don't think I'll ever get used to hormones."

At nearly 6ft she stands out among her team-mates, and club captain Jessica Minty-Madley recounts a time she folded an opponent "like a deckchair".
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Transgender sprinters finish 1st, 2nd at Connecticut girls indoor track championships

.....She recently finished second in the 55-meter dash at the state open indoor track championships. The winner, Terry Miller of Bloomfield High, is also transgender and set a girls state indoor record of 6.95 seconds. Yearwood finished in 7.01 seconds and the third-place competitor, who is not transgender, finished in 7.23 seconds.

Miller and Yearwood also topped the 100-meter state championships last year, and Miller won the 300 this season....

....Connecticut is one of 17 states that allow transgender high school athletes to compete without restrictions, according to Transathlete.com, which tracks state policies in high school sports across the country....
https://washingtontimes.com/news/2019/f ... -sprinter/
Apparently one of them even had a full mustache to boot..

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Had a brief discussion about global warming on this board and was shocked at the lack of desire for good data.

Looks as if Dr Mann, the infamous "hockey stick" graph creator,has lost his court case because he wouldn't share his data.

As he teaches at Penn State, he pulled a Sandusky on the data. Diddled it and tried to hide it.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... costs.html
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SeattleGriz wrote:Had a brief discussion about global warming on this board and was shocked at the lack of desire for good data.

Looks as if Dr Mann, the infamous "hockey stick" graph creator,has lost his court case because he wouldn't share his data.

As he teaches at Penn State, he pulled a Sandusky on the data. Diddled it and tried to hide it.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... costs.html
Um... two things:
You do know that the "Hockey Stick" data has been freely accessible to all for over a decade (Right?)
and they have been made available to the court

Everything Mann used to create that graph is free and open to use

:coffee:

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/publi ... ANNETAL98/

and the courts DID NOT find against Mann... read below for the facts please

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Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Had a brief discussion about global warming on this board and was shocked at the lack of desire for good data.

Looks as if Dr Mann, the infamous "hockey stick" graph creator,has lost his court case because he wouldn't share his data.

As he teaches at Penn State, he pulled a Sandusky on the data. Diddled it and tried to hide it.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... costs.html
Um... two things:
You do know that the "Hockey Stick" data has been freely accessible to all for over a decade (Right?)
and they have been made available to the court

Everything Mann used to create that graph is free and open to use

:coffee:

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/publi ... ANNETAL98/

and the courts DID NOT find against Mann... read below for the facts please

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Dude. Mann started this case in 2011 and never supplied the data and calculations.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... s-case.php

"The rules of discovery provide that a litigant must make available to opposing parties documents that reasonably bear on the issues in the case. Here, it is absurd for Mann to sue Ball for libel, and then refuse to produce the documents that would have helped to show whether Ball’s statement about him–he belongs in the state pen–was true or false. The logical inference is that the R2 regression analysis and other materials, if produced, would have supported Ball’s claim that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud on Mann’s part."
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Um... two things:
You do know that the "Hockey Stick" data has been freely accessible to all for over a decade (Right?)
and they have been made available to the court

Everything Mann used to create that graph is free and open to use

:coffee:

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/publi ... ANNETAL98/

and the courts DID NOT find against Mann... read below for the facts please

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Dude. Mann started this case in 2011 and never supplied the data and calculations.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... s-case.php

"The rules of discovery provide that a litigant must make available to opposing parties documents that reasonably bear on the issues in the case. Here, it is absurd for Mann to sue Ball for libel, and then refuse to produce the documents that would have helped to show whether Ball’s statement about him–he belongs in the state pen–was true or false. The logical inference is that the R2 regression analysis and other materials, if produced, would have supported Ball’s claim that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud on Mann’s part."
I thought the hockey stock was pretty much confirmed?
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kalm wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Dude. Mann started this case in 2011 and never supplied the data and calculations.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... s-case.php

"The rules of discovery provide that a litigant must make available to opposing parties documents that reasonably bear on the issues in the case. Here, it is absurd for Mann to sue Ball for libel, and then refuse to produce the documents that would have helped to show whether Ball’s statement about him–he belongs in the state pen–was true or false. The logical inference is that the R2 regression analysis and other materials, if produced, would have supported Ball’s claim that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud on Mann’s part."
I thought the hockey stock was pretty much confirmed?
Only by those that didn't care to understand the methodology or why a warming period simply disappeared.

Shit science.

The hockey stick may be true, but without the sharing of data, nobody can properly evaluate Mann's findings.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Um... two things:
You do know that the "Hockey Stick" data has been freely accessible to all for over a decade (Right?)
and they have been made available to the court

Everything Mann used to create that graph is free and open to use

:coffee:

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/publi ... ANNETAL98/

and the courts DID NOT find against Mann... read below for the facts please

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Dude. Mann started this case in 2011 and never supplied the data and calculations.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... s-case.php

"The rules of discovery provide that a litigant must make available to opposing parties documents that reasonably bear on the issues in the case. Here, it is absurd for Mann to sue Ball for libel, and then refuse to produce the documents that would have helped to show whether Ball’s statement about him–he belongs in the state pen–was true or false. The logical inference is that the R2 regression analysis and other materials, if produced, would have supported Ball’s claim that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud on Mann’s part."
Do you understand what "Powerline" Blog is..?
and how its information is contrary to all the court case information provided by the actual courts

:shock:

you know who Alex Jones is..?
and Rupert Murdoch ..?
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Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Dude. Mann started this case in 2011 and never supplied the data and calculations.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... s-case.php

"The rules of discovery provide that a litigant must make available to opposing parties documents that reasonably bear on the issues in the case. Here, it is absurd for Mann to sue Ball for libel, and then refuse to produce the documents that would have helped to show whether Ball’s statement about him–he belongs in the state pen–was true or false. The logical inference is that the R2 regression analysis and other materials, if produced, would have supported Ball’s claim that the hockey stick was a deliberate fraud on Mann’s part."
Do you understand what "Powerline" Blog is..?
and how its information is contrary to all the court case information provided by the actual courts

:shock:

you know who Alex Jones is..?
and Rupert Murdoch ..?
Did he supply his data and calculations. That is all that matters. He did not, and therefore nobody can validate his work.

Besides, you've already proven you don't even understand the basics of NOAA datasets.
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BDKJMU wrote:Transgender sprinters finish 1st, 2nd at Connecticut girls indoor track championships

.....She recently finished second in the 55-meter dash at the state open indoor track championships. The winner, Terry Miller of Bloomfield High, is also transgender and set a girls state indoor record of 6.95 seconds. Yearwood finished in 7.01 seconds and the third-place competitor, who is not transgender, finished in 7.23 seconds.

Miller and Yearwood also topped the 100-meter state championships last year, and Miller won the 300 this season....

....Connecticut is one of 17 states that allow transgender high school athletes to compete without restrictions, according to Transathlete.com, which tracks state policies in high school sports across the country....
https://washingtontimes.com/news/2019/f ... -sprinter/
Apparently one of them even had a full mustache to boot..

Somewhere along the line, some parents of HS girls are going to sue and win a major lawsuit, which will put an end to this.

Transgenders are still generating male hormones regardless of how many surgeries they get. They need to have their own classification.


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BDKJMU wrote:Transgender sprinters finish 1st, 2nd at Connecticut girls indoor track championships

.....She recently finished second in the 55-meter dash at the state open indoor track championships. The winner, Terry Miller of Bloomfield High, is also transgender and set a girls state indoor record of 6.95 seconds. Yearwood finished in 7.01 seconds and the third-place competitor, who is not transgender, finished in 7.23 seconds.

Miller and Yearwood also topped the 100-meter state championships last year, and Miller won the 300 this season....

....Connecticut is one of 17 states that allow transgender high school athletes to compete without restrictions, according to Transathlete.com, which tracks state policies in high school sports across the country....
https://washingtontimes.com/news/2019/f ... -sprinter/
Apparently one of them even had a full mustache to boot..

Somewhere along the line, some parents of HS girls are going to sue and win a major lawsuit, which will put an end to this.

Transgenders are still generating male hormones regardless of how many surgeries they get. They need to have their own classification.


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It's a weird debate, and I'm not certain what will be done. You'd think a 3rd classification would work, but then you have advocates for trans-athletes pushing back that not getting to be called male or female is itself discrimination. There's two classifications now (male and female) because without it females would naturally not fare well in most athletic contests. There are plenty of places now in the US where governing federations (high school, state, etc) don't even require medical treatments to have been begun to be considered the gender you identify with - so a guy who identifies female can compete as a female with no medical restriction at all. The argument against cis-athletes is tough luck, trans athletes have been more marginalized so they'll get the protection. Like I said, a weird debate.
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css75 wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Transgender sprinters finish 1st, 2nd at Connecticut girls indoor track championships

.....She recently finished second in the 55-meter dash at the state open indoor track championships. The winner, Terry Miller of Bloomfield High, is also transgender and set a girls state indoor record of 6.95 seconds. Yearwood finished in 7.01 seconds and the third-place competitor, who is not transgender, finished in 7.23 seconds.

Miller and Yearwood also topped the 100-meter state championships last year, and Miller won the 300 this season....

....Connecticut is one of 17 states that allow transgender high school athletes to compete without restrictions, according to Transathlete.com, which tracks state policies in high school sports across the country....
https://washingtontimes.com/news/2019/f ... -sprinter/
Apparently one of them even had a full mustache to boot..

Somewhere along the line, some parents of HS girls are going to sue and win a major lawsuit, which will put an end to this.

Transgenders are still generating male hormones regardless of how many surgeries they get. They need to have their own classification.
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Yep, doesn't matter how much hormones a guy takes, he still has the advantage of growing up male with male physical characteristics, frame, bone density, muscle mass. Hormones doesn't erase that. And most of these states aren't even making these boys/young men take female hormones to compete. They are 100% male competing against females. Patently unfair.

Lawsuit was filed a couple of months ago against these boys pretending to be female being allowed to compete as females.
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GannonFan wrote:
css75 wrote:

Somewhere along the line, some parents of HS girls are going to sue and win a major lawsuit, which will put an end to this.

Transgenders are still generating male hormones regardless of how many surgeries they get. They need to have their own classification.


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It's a weird debate, and I'm not certain what will be done. You'd think a 3rd classification would work, but then you have advocates for trans-athletes pushing back that not getting to be called male or female is itself discrimination. There's two classifications now (male and female) because without it females would naturally not fare well in most athletic contests. There are plenty of places now in the US where governing federations (high school, state, etc) don't even require medical treatments to have been begun to be considered the gender you identify with - so a guy who identifies female can compete as a female with no medical restriction at all. The argument against cis-athletes is tough luck, trans athletes have been more marginalized so they'll get the protection. Like I said, a weird debate.
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BDKJMU wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
It's a weird debate, and I'm not certain what will be done. You'd think a 3rd classification would work, but then you have advocates for trans-athletes pushing back that not getting to be called male or female is itself discrimination. There's two classifications now (male and female) because without it females would naturally not fare well in most athletic contests. There are plenty of places now in the US where governing federations (high school, state, etc) don't even require medical treatments to have been begun to be considered the gender you identify with - so a guy who identifies female can compete as a female with no medical restriction at all. The argument against cis-athletes is tough luck, trans athletes have been more marginalized so they'll get the protection. Like I said, a weird debate.
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Barack Obama wrote:"There’s only so much you can eat. There’s only so big a house you can have. There’s only so many nice trips you can take. I mean, it’s enough."

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So proud of my progressive county...

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Students in Montgomery County Public Schools will have a third gender option to declare on their school records.

This year the school system is adding an “X” classification in addition to male and female gender options, according to a letter from Montgomery County Schools Superintendent Jack Smith to Maryland State Superintendent of Schools Karen Salmon requesting that the change become official.

The letter states that Montgomery County school system has received “a number of requests” from students and their parents seeking to designate their gender in their official student records as “nonbinary” or “unspecified.”
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89Hen wrote:
Barack Obama wrote:"There’s only so much you can eat. There’s only so big a house you can have. There’s only so many nice trips you can take. I mean, it’s enough."
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Whoops! :lol:

Although I think a POTUS probably has earned a place like that and can still afford...even with higher taxes.
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kalm wrote:
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Whoops! :lol:

Although I think a POTUS probably has earned a place like that and can still afford...even with higher taxes.
Well, we at least we know that he didn't build that. :rofl:
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GannonFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Whoops! :lol:

Although I think a POTUS probably has earned a place like that and can still afford...even with higher taxes.
Well, we at least we know that he didn't build that. :rofl:
It's funny how legitimate that statement was and how it still sticks in peoples craws. :lol:

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89Hen wrote:
Barack Obama wrote:"There’s only so much you can eat. There’s only so big a house you can have. There’s only so many nice trips you can take. I mean, it’s enough."

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kalm wrote:
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Well, we at least we know that he didn't build that. :rofl:
It's funny how legitimate that statement was and how it still sticks in peoples craws. :lol:

:tiptoe:
Not quite the way, "elections have consequences", does. :lol:

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89Hen wrote:
Barack Obama wrote:"There’s only so much you can eat. There’s only so big a house you can have. There’s only so many nice trips you can take. I mean, it’s enough."

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kalm wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Well, we at least we know that he didn't build that. :rofl:
It's funny how legitimate that statement was and how it still sticks in peoples craws. :lol:

:tiptoe:
In context of everything else he said with it, it wasn't an untrue statement. "If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that." by itself is demeaning to the people who busted their butts to build a business. All he had to do was add "by yourself" or "without help" and it would have been more respectful.

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kalm wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Well, we at least we know that he didn't build that. :rofl:
It's funny how legitimate that statement was and how it still sticks in peoples craws. :lol:

:tiptoe:
Well, legitimacy can be skewed depending on your point of view, so it wasn't terribly surprising that people would take umbrage with a statement that grossly oversimplified reality.

With that said, I think an even more legitimate statement was that "basket of irredeemable deplorables" comment. I don't think she was too far off the mark with that one at all. Problem there, though, was that those deplorables, even the irredeemable ones, were also called "voters" in the election she was in.
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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:
It's funny how legitimate that statement was and how it still sticks in peoples craws. :lol:

:tiptoe:
In context of everything else he said with it, it wasn't an untrue statement. "If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that." by itself is demeaning to the people who busted their butts to build a business. All he had to do was add "by yourself" or "without help" and it would have been more respectful.
I think kalmie knows that, hence the tip-toe away emoji.
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