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Infotainment news in America really IS the enemy. They are not impartial and they hide/minimize the issues with politicians they agree with. I can’t wait to get back overseas and away from this crap inundating every tv channel. I really feel sorry for you guys here who have to search the dial for real media news when all there is is garbage and bile


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Agree with CID. Infotainment news is the enemy.

And GF, that's exactly what I do. Never watch ANY news channel longer than about 5 minutes tho. :ohno: :ohno:
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89Hen wrote:Our country sucks.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/49ers/annki ... 885046.php
Speaking on KNBR’s “Murph and Mac” morning show Monday, Ryan said, “He’s really good at that fake, Lamar Jackson, but when you consider his dark skin color with a dark football with a dark uniform, you could not see that thing. I mean, you literally could not see when he was in and out of the mesh point.”

There was no follow-up question on the strange remark. The interview has been deleted from the KNBR website. After inquiries from The Chronicle, the 49ers announced Wednesday afternoon that Ryan has been suspended from Sunday’s broadcast. Ryan also issued an apology.

You can shrug it off. Or you can interpret it that Ryan said basically that Jackson is really good, but he has an unfair advantage because he has dark skin. Which should make you do a spit-take if you’ve paid attention to the league and its history.

And that’s the problem. Ryan is a color commentator. An analyst. He is not a 14-year-old who just wandered into the booth with no context or historical knowledge. He is supposed to provide perspective, not just on the play in the moment, or the particular game he’s calling, but the big picture on what we are watching.
“Assigning ANY dimension of Lamar’s undeniable brilliance at QB to his skin color — a raw and sensitive assessment and assertion not only because it is profoundly obtuse and ignorant on its face and carries implications that I’m certain were not intended, but because skin color has been such a factor in rationalizing denial of Black athletes’ opportunities to play the QB position over most of the NFL’s 100 years of existence,”
Arizona Cardinals - Kyler Murray
Baltimore Ravens - Lamar Jackson
Carolina Panthers - Cam Newton
Dallas Cowboys - Dak Prescott
Houston Texans - Deshaun Watson
Indianapolis Colts - Jacoby Brissett
Kansas City Chiefs - Patrick Mahomes
Seattle Seahawks - Russell Wilson
Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jameis Winston
Washington Redskins - Dwayne Haskins

9/32 teams have a black starting QB. That's 28% of NFL teams. AA's make up 13% of the population. Then you have the backup QB's like Tyrod Taylor, Teddy Bridgewater, RG III, Geno Smith, Deshone Kizer, Josh Dobbs.

What a complete fucking non-story. :roll: :roll:
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89Hen wrote:Our country sucks.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/49ers/annki ... 885046.php
Speaking on KNBR’s “Murph and Mac” morning show Monday, Ryan said, “He’s really good at that fake, Lamar Jackson, but when you consider his dark skin color with a dark football with a dark uniform, you could not see that thing. I mean, you literally could not see when he was in and out of the mesh point.”

There was no follow-up question on the strange remark. The interview has been deleted from the KNBR website. After inquiries from The Chronicle, the 49ers announced Wednesday afternoon that Ryan has been suspended from Sunday’s broadcast. Ryan also issued an apology.

You can shrug it off. Or you can interpret it that Ryan said basically that Jackson is really good, but he has an unfair advantage because he has dark skin. Which should make you do a spit-take if you’ve paid attention to the league and its history.

And that’s the problem. Ryan is a color commentator. An analyst. He is not a 14-year-old who just wandered into the booth with no context or historical knowledge. He is supposed to provide perspective, not just on the play in the moment, or the particular game he’s calling, but the big picture on what we are watching.
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Anybody notice the bombshell in the NYT today?
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This might actually deserve its own thread, but I'll stash it here.

I saw on the local evening news just now that Tuskegee airman Col Charles McGee decided to celebrate his 100th birthday by flying a Cirrus Vision jet from Frederick, MD to Dover AFB to celebrate with the troops. Dude was sharp as a tack in the TV interview clip. Pretty fucking cool:
Col. McGee says he actively flew 27 of his 30 years of service. He holds an Air Force record for flying more than 400 combat missions during World War II, Korea and Vietnam.
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CID1990 wrote:Anybody notice the bombshell in the NYT today?
This?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/opin ... e=Homepage

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I was a socialist in college. I read magazines like The Nation and old issues of The New Masses. I dreamed of being the next Clifford Odets, a lefty playwright who was always trying to raise proletarian class consciousness. If you go on YouTube and search “David Brooks Milton Friedman,” you can see a 22-year-old socialist me debating the great economist. I’m the one with the bushy hair and the giant 1980s glasses that were apparently on loan from the Palomar lunar observatory.

The best version of socialism is defined by Michael Walzer’s phrase, “what touches all should be decided by all.” The great economic enterprises should be owned by all of us in common. Decisions should be based on what benefits all, not the maximization of profit.

That’s not what “democratic socialists” like Bernie Sanders are talking about, but I get why some of their socialist concerns are popular. Why do we have to live with such poverty and inequality? Why can’t we put people over profits? What is the best life in the most just society? Socialism is the most compelling secular religion of all time. It gives you an egalitarian ideal to sacrifice and live for.

My socialist sympathies didn’t survive long once I became a journalist. I quickly noticed that the government officials I was covering were not capable of planning the society they hoped to create. It wasn’t because they were bad or stupid. The world is just too complicated.

I came to realize that capitalism is really good at doing the one thing socialism is really bad at: creating a learning process to help people figure stuff out. If you want to run a rental car company, capitalism has a whole bevy of market and price signals and feedback loops that tell you what kind of cars people want to rent, where to put your locations, how many cars to order. It has a competitive profit-driven process to motivate you to learn and innovate, every single day.

Socialist planned economies — the common ownership of the means of production — interfere with price and other market signals in a million ways. They suppress or eliminate profit motives that drive people to learn and improve.

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CAA Flagship wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Anybody notice the bombshell in the NYT today?
This?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/opin ... e=Homepage

I Was Once a Socialist. Then I Saw How It Worked.
I was a socialist in college. I read magazines like The Nation and old issues of The New Masses. I dreamed of being the next Clifford Odets, a lefty playwright who was always trying to raise proletarian class consciousness. If you go on YouTube and search “David Brooks Milton Friedman,” you can see a 22-year-old socialist me debating the great economist. I’m the one with the bushy hair and the giant 1980s glasses that were apparently on loan from the Palomar lunar observatory.

The best version of socialism is defined by Michael Walzer’s phrase, “what touches all should be decided by all.” The great economic enterprises should be owned by all of us in common. Decisions should be based on what benefits all, not the maximization of profit.

That’s not what “democratic socialists” like Bernie Sanders are talking about, but I get why some of their socialist concerns are popular. Why do we have to live with such poverty and inequality? Why can’t we put people over profits? What is the best life in the most just society? Socialism is the most compelling secular religion of all time. It gives you an egalitarian ideal to sacrifice and live for.

My socialist sympathies didn’t survive long once I became a journalist. I quickly noticed that the government officials I was covering were not capable of planning the society they hoped to create. It wasn’t because they were bad or stupid. The world is just too complicated.

I came to realize that capitalism is really good at doing the one thing socialism is really bad at: creating a learning process to help people figure stuff out. If you want to run a rental car company, capitalism has a whole bevy of market and price signals and feedback loops that tell you what kind of cars people want to rent, where to put your locations, how many cars to order. It has a competitive profit-driven process to motivate you to learn and innovate, every single day.

Socialist planned economies — the common ownership of the means of production — interfere with price and other market signals in a million ways. They suppress or eliminate profit motives that drive people to learn and improve.
Nope thats not a bombshell. Everyone eventually must come to that conclusion

I’m talking about the one where they admit they’ve been wrong about the US jobs market


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CID1990 wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:
This?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/opin ... e=Homepage

I Was Once a Socialist. Then I Saw How It Worked.
Nope thats not a bombshell. Everyone eventually must come to that conclusion

I’m talking about the one where they admit they’ve been wrong about the US jobs market


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:lol: :lol: Yeah I saw the headline but I don't have access to the article.

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Nope thats not a bombshell. Everyone eventually must come to that conclusion

I’m talking about the one where they admit they’ve been wrong about the US jobs market


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:lol: :lol: Yeah I saw the headline but I don't have access to the article.
Never fear.

HotAir paraphrases it all so we do not need to slip behind the paywall:

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrisse ... ket-wrong/



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CID1990 wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: :lol: :lol: Yeah I saw the headline but I don't have access to the article.
Never fear.

HotAir paraphrases it all so we do not need to slip behind the paywall:

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrisse ... ket-wrong/
Can't wait to hear JSO's spin on this. I can actually add some theories but I'll wait to see it JSO can objectively decipher this information.

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CAA Flagship wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Never fear.

HotAir paraphrases it all so we do not need to slip behind the paywall:

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrisse ... ket-wrong/
Can't wait to hear JSO's spin on this. I can actually add some theories but I'll wait to see it JSO can objectively decipher this information.
He probably pulled an all-nighter on that. :lol:
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CAA Flagship wrote: Can't wait to hear JSO's spin on this. I can actually add some theories but I'll wait to see it JSO can objectively decipher this information.
He probably pulled an all-nighter on that. :lol:
and a hamstring. :coffee:

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CAA Flagship wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Never fear.

HotAir paraphrases it all so we do not need to slip behind the paywall:

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrisse ... ket-wrong/
Can't wait to hear JSO's spin on this. I can actually add some theories but I'll wait to see it JSO can objectively decipher this information.
Here’s a couple of spins...
“A far more substantial factor severing the earlier connections between unemployment and inflation, however, is the changed composition of the employment base itself,” states the JQI White Paper. “The channel through which this occurs is fairly simple: If a greater proportion of jobs produce incomes below the mean of all jobs (i.e. a reduction in the level of the JQI), than they did in the past, then an increase in the proportion of people working will have a lesser impact on household incomes—and therefore aggregate demand—than in the past… Despite central banks in the U.S., the Eurozone, Japan, and the U.K. having pumped more than $10 trillion into their collective economies over the past decade, aggregate demand remains tepid.””

What do the new jobs actually look like? The JQI White Paper paints a grim picture. “The success of superstar companies like Google or Apple or Pfizer should not blind us to the fact that today Leisure & Hospitality is our largest sector with 14,7 million non-management employees. It’s a sector that pays such workers $16.58 an hour and the average worker works just 25.8 hours a week – resulting in average weekly income of $428. (Benefits like health insurance in the sector are small to nonexistent.)”

What were policy makers thinking while all th0se high-quality manufacturing jobs were being shipped to other countries? A clue comes from the remark attributed to Michael Boskin Chairman of President George H. W. Bush’s Council of Economic Advisors: “It doesn’t make any difference whether a country makes computer chips or potato chips!”


His flippant remark has proven tragically incorrect. “When all that a country has left is the domestic manufacture of processed foodstuffs,” concludes the JQI White Paper, “you end up with a lot of unhealthy and unwealthy workers who are in dire shortage of security, much less dignity. A republic that offers no better than this cannot long endure
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kalm wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Can't wait to hear JSO's spin on this. I can actually add some theories but I'll wait to see it JSO can objectively decipher this information.
Here’s a couple of spins...
“A far more substantial factor severing the earlier connections between unemployment and inflation, however, is the changed composition of the employment base itself,” states the JQI White Paper. “The channel through which this occurs is fairly simple: If a greater proportion of jobs produce incomes below the mean of all jobs (i.e. a reduction in the level of the JQI), than they did in the past, then an increase in the proportion of people working will have a lesser impact on household incomes—and therefore aggregate demand—than in the past… Despite central banks in the U.S., the Eurozone, Japan, and the U.K. having pumped more than $10 trillion into their collective economies over the past decade, aggregate demand remains tepid.””

What do the new jobs actually look like? The JQI White Paper paints a grim picture. “The success of superstar companies like Google or Apple or Pfizer should not blind us to the fact that today Leisure & Hospitality is our largest sector with 14,7 million non-management employees. It’s a sector that pays such workers $16.58 an hour and the average worker works just 25.8 hours a week – resulting in average weekly income of $428. (Benefits like health insurance in the sector are small to nonexistent.)”

What were policy makers thinking while all th0se high-quality manufacturing jobs were being shipped to other countries? A clue comes from the remark attributed to Michael Boskin Chairman of President George H. W. Bush’s Council of Economic Advisors: “It doesn’t make any difference whether a country makes computer chips or potato chips!”


His flippant remark has proven tragically incorrect. “When all that a country has left is the domestic manufacture of processed foodstuffs,” concludes the JQI White Paper, “you end up with a lot of unhealthy and unwealthy workers who are in dire shortage of security, much less dignity. A republic that offers no better than this cannot long endure
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenni ... 0509772d97
That's an accurate spin but it's effect is not that great. If more people are working, regardless of the amount they make it's still more than what they were making while sitting on the sidelines. That money should still be injected into the economy.
I think the disconnection is related to people not spending much money. Call it the hangover from the Great Recession, or fear of the next one. Also, the housing market is still a problem. Housing, IMO, is the biggest driver of the economy. The jobs that a single house creates from construction to the manufacture and sales of materials is a huge driver. But I digress.

Regardless what the reason(s) may be:
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No, this isn't the onion. It's no wonder people think the media a joke.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-s ... os-2019-12
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HI54UNI wrote:No, this isn't the onion. It's no wonder people think the media a joke.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-s ... os-2019-12
The horror. :rofl: :rofl:
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Super interesting read.


https://www.businessinsider.com/the-11- ... economy-10

My home County is in westernmost Tidewater, bordering Appalachia. The article describes the area fairly well.
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CID1990 wrote:Super interesting read.


https://www.businessinsider.com/the-11- ... economy-10

My home County is in westernmost Tidewater, bordering Appalachia. The article describes the area fairly well.
Fun topic.

The Far West was as much settled by Lutheran Scandinavians as quakers. It shares the mistrust of eastern establishment similar to the Midlands and is fiercely independent but also adventurous like Appalachia and the Left coast. You can find some obvious overlaps between many of these.

Politically and to a certain extent culturally you could break this down further to small towns, middle sized town desiring to be big cities, and big cities.
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CID1990 wrote:Super interesting read.


https://www.businessinsider.com/the-11- ... economy-10

My home County is in westernmost Tidewater, bordering Appalachia. The article describes the area fairly well.
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CID1990 wrote:Super interesting read.


https://www.businessinsider.com/the-11- ... economy-10

My home County is in westernmost Tidewater, bordering Appalachia. The article describes the area fairly well.
I always knew New Castle County (at least north of the C&D Canal) should be given back to Pennsylvania.

And that Delmarva should be granted its independence as a sovereign island.
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93henfan wrote:And that Delmarva should be granted its independence as a sovereign island.
Why, so it can replace Mississippi as the poorest, most uneducated state? :finger:
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93henfan wrote:And that Delmarva should be granted its independence as a sovereign island.
Why, so it can replace Mississippi as the poorest, most uneducated state? :finger:
Yeah, because jettisoning Wilmingon would lower those numbers. Makes sense.
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89Hen wrote: Why, so it can replace Mississippi as the poorest, most uneducated state? :finger:
Yeah, because jettisoning Wilmingon would lower those numbers. Makes sense.
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