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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby dbackjon » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:13 pm

ASUG8 wrote:
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That’s the future we’re headed toward and curing it will be bloody, though necessary.


These are scary times. The snowflakes, the Kardashian "me! me! me!" selfie culture, hurt feelings, every person is their own minority group.....

America is doomed. Hate to be a glass half empty Debbie Downer, but the current slope is too slippery.




So putting up a statue to celebrate a war that was started to defend slavery, (60 years after the fact) and to intimidate blacks wasn't the key to dooming the US, but a bunch of Patriotic American Students, who recognize what the statue stands for (racism, terrorism) removing it dooms America?

America is stronger today with it gone. We don't need monuments celebrating racist traitors.
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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby CID1990 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:36 pm

dbackjon wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
These are scary times. The snowflakes, the Kardashian "me! me! me!" selfie culture, hurt feelings, every person is their own minority group.....

America is doomed. Hate to be a glass half empty Debbie Downer, but the current slope is too slippery.




So putting up a statue to celebrate a war that was started to defend slavery, (60 years after the fact) and to intimidate blacks wasn't the key to dooming the US, but a bunch of Patriotic American Students, who recognize what the statue stands for (racism, terrorism) removing it dooms America?

America is stronger today with it gone. We don't need monuments celebrating racist traitors.


It isn't about the statue, Jon

Its looking the other way to righteous lawlessness

Today it is tearing down a statue you dont like. Tomorrow it might be something more distasteful to you


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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby css75 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:05 pm

dbackjon wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
These are scary times. The snowflakes, the Kardashian "me! me! me!" selfie culture, hurt feelings, every person is their own minority group.....

America is doomed. Hate to be a glass half empty Debbie Downer, but the current slope is too slippery.




So putting up a statue to celebrate a war that was started to defend slavery, (60 years after the fact) and to intimidate blacks wasn't the key to dooming the US, but a bunch of Patriotic American Students, who recognize what the statue stands for (racism, terrorism) removing it dooms America?

America is stronger today with it gone. We don't need monuments celebrating racist traitors.



There is a right way to go about getting rid of these. Mob rule and tearing it down is 3rd world, I would like to think we are better than that.


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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby 93henfan » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:21 pm

dbackjon wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
These are scary times. The snowflakes, the Kardashian "me! me! me!" selfie culture, hurt feelings, every person is their own minority group.....

America is doomed. Hate to be a glass half empty Debbie Downer, but the current slope is too slippery.




So putting up a statue to celebrate a war that was started to defend slavery, (60 years after the fact) and to intimidate blacks wasn't the key to dooming the US, but a bunch of Patriotic American Students, who recognize what the statue stands for (racism, terrorism) removing it dooms America?

America is stronger today with it gone. We don't need monuments celebrating racist traitors.


Erasing history is 1984ish. Tearing down/blowing up monuments and historical artifacts is Tablibanish/ISISish.
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Re: RE: Re: Campus Happenings

Postby Bisonfanatical » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:37 pm

CID1990 wrote:
dbackjon wrote:


So putting up a statue to celebrate a war that was started to defend slavery, (60 years after the fact) and to intimidate blacks wasn't the key to dooming the US, but a bunch of Patriotic American Students, who recognize what the statue stands for (racism, terrorism) removing it dooms America?

America is stronger today with it gone. We don't need monuments celebrating racist traitors.


It isn't about the statue, Jon

Its looking the other way to righteous lawlessness

Today it is tearing down a statue you dont like. Tomorrow it might be something more distasteful to you


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Exactly, and letting a mob determine what is "righteous" is an extremely scary concept indeed.

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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby Skjellyfetti » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:43 pm

93henfan wrote:Erasing history is 1984ish. Tearing down/blowing up monuments and historical artifacts is Tablibanish/ISISish.


I agree.

The Right are way better at trolling.

Someone on the Left needs to pony up for a United Daughters of the Union and start building Sherman statues all over the South.
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Re: RE: Re: Campus Happenings

Postby Bisonfanatical » Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:48 pm

Ibanez wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:That's awesome. I hope more displays are toppled when action isn't being taken to remove them.

I'm not sure destruction of property is a peaceful assembly as outlined in our Constitution.....ahhh look at who I'm talking to you.

Laws are for white people....not the minorities or the ones with hurt feelings, right?


I most definately see the point you are making, and agree with it, but there are those people nowadays who are enjoying this lawlessness who will find a different type of playing field IF and WHEN the rule of law breaks down.

Sad thought though, hope it never happens.

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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby CID1990 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:51 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:
93henfan wrote:Erasing history is 1984ish. Tearing down/blowing up monuments and historical artifacts is Tablibanish/ISISish.


I agree.

The Right are way better at trolling.

Someone on the Left needs to pony up for a United Daughters of the Union and start building Sherman statues all over the South.


False equivalence

You’re like a fallacious logic “how to”, Jelly

If they erected Sherman statues all over the north then that would be equivalent
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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby css75 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:28 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
I agree.

The Right are way better at trolling.

Someone on the Left needs to pony up for a United Daughters of the Union and start building Sherman statues all over the South.


False equivalence

You’re like a fallacious logic “how to”, Jelly

If they erected Sherman statues all over the north then that would be equivalent


Sherman statues would irritate the American Indian more than a Southerner, his idea was to kill all the Buffalo and starve Indians out.


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Re: RE: Re: Campus Happenings

Postby UNI88 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:59 pm

css75 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
False equivalence

You’re like a fallacious logic “how to”, Jelly

If they erected Sherman statues all over the north then that would be equivalent


Sherman statues would irritate the American Indian more than a Southerner, his idea was to kill all the Buffalo and starve Indians out.


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Re: RE: Re: Campus Happenings

Postby Chizzang » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:11 pm

UNI88 wrote:
css75 wrote:
Sherman statues would irritate the American Indian more than a Southerner, his idea was to kill all the Buffalo and starve Indians out.


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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby Skjellyfetti » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:20 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
I agree.

The Right are way better at trolling.

Someone on the Left needs to pony up for a United Daughters of the Union and start building Sherman statues all over the South.


False equivalence

You’re like a fallacious logic “how to”, Jelly

If they erected Sherman statues all over the north then that would be equivalent


Ah. Thought we were reunified. My bad.

It's part of our history. The absence of monuments to Sherman in the South is whitewashing the defeat of the Southrons. :ohno:
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Cid1990 wrote:It is going to be a sad day for a lot of people when all that comes of all of this is Flynn getting whacked.

Mueller is going to take a beating on the left before this business is over

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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby BDKJMU » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:32 pm

Its obvious the liberal powers to be at UNC were complicit in the statue’s toppling. They couldn’t remove the statue by state law. So they found another way. How convenient that they allowed a bunch of anarchist students to surround the statue with large banners for reportedly about an hour, and not allow the campus police to see what the students were doing behind the banners until the statue was toppled. What elese would they have been doing behind the banners? Singing kumbya? All the campus police would have had to do was step in there and see that a handful of anarchists were trying to topple the statue. I don’t blame the individual police- they were obviously told to stand down, just like the campus cops in Berley were Feb last year when the ANTFA were allowed to run wild and cause 6 figures of vandalism & destruction on campus. Then then the liberal campus leadership feigned indignation at the very thing they were complocit in allowong happen. You can’t make this up..

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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby ASUG8 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:11 am

dbackjon wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
These are scary times. The snowflakes, the Kardashian "me! me! me!" selfie culture, hurt feelings, every person is their own minority group.....

America is doomed. Hate to be a glass half empty Debbie Downer, but the current slope is too slippery.




So putting up a statue to celebrate a war that was started to defend slavery, (60 years after the fact) and to intimidate blacks wasn't the key to dooming the US, but a bunch of Patriotic American Students, who recognize what the statue stands for (racism, terrorism) removing it dooms America?

America is stronger today with it gone. We don't need monuments celebrating racist traitors.


No, the devolution of society to a mob mentality of destruction of public property as the norm is the issue. If that's a good thing in your eyes then I guess we're better today.

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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby Ibanez » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:17 am

dbackjon wrote:
ASUG8 wrote:
These are scary times. The snowflakes, the Kardashian "me! me! me!" selfie culture, hurt feelings, every person is their own minority group.....

America is doomed. Hate to be a glass half empty Debbie Downer, but the current slope is too slippery.




So putting up a statue to celebrate a war that was started to defend slavery, (60 years after the fact) and to intimidate blacks wasn't the key to dooming the US, but a bunch of Patriotic American Students, who recognize what the statue stands for (racism, terrorism) removing it dooms America?

America is stronger today with it gone. We don't need monuments celebrating racist traitors.

The Washington Monument and Jefferson Memorial should go as well?


That's where this is heading.
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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby BDKJMU » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:48 am

The ? is will the statue be put back up, or will mob rule be allowed to rule the day?

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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby ∞∞∞ » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:25 am

BDKJMU wrote:The ? is will the statue be put back up, or will mob rule be allowed to rule the day?

Some may get in trouble, but laws are just words - and punishments are simply that. The foundation of an equal society is better in the long-term for civil unrest like this. These students understood the spirit of justice better than anyone involved with the ink and rules.

If that statue goes up, it will be taken down again. And expect more toppings in the future.

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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby Ibanez » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:28 am

∞∞∞ wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:The ? is will the statue be put back up, or will mob rule be allowed to rule the day?

Some may get in trouble, but laws are just words - and punishments are simply that. The foundation of an equal society is better in the long-term for civil unrest like this. These students understood the spirit of justice better than anyone involved with the ink and rules.

If that statue goes up, it will be taken down again. And expect more toppings in the future.

That bs sounds like something Trump would say. So much for democracy.
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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby ∞∞∞ » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:54 am

Laws can easily promote justice, equality, and freedom while masquerading behind alternative intentions, or even worse: malice. And then people stand behind them and say, "well that's the law."

IMHO, the spirit of justice, equality, and freedom trumps any written word. The actions they took tearing down the statue is the spirit of those ideals.

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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby Chizzang » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:10 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:Laws can easily promote justice, equality, and freedom while masquerading behind alternative intentions, or even worse: malice. And then people stand behind them and say, "well that's the law."

IMHO, the spirit of justice, equality, and freedom trumps any written word. The actions they took tearing down the statue is the spirit of those ideals.


That's a ^ slippery one...
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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby GannonFan » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:13 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: the spirit of justice


Unfortunately, that's always in the eye of the beholder. Many a heinous crime has been perpetrated using the "spirit of justice" to circumvent actual law.

And seriously, they took down a statue on an isolated campus that few people would even know anything about had it not been toppled (I had never heard of this statue until this event). In the grand scheme of life, this is small potatoes. No need to get all teary-eyed with "the spirit of justice" odes. We already know you're a millennial, no need to be overly dramatic and prove that. :coffee:
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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby CAA Flagship » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:44 pm

Chizzang wrote:The Republic is nothing with the Rule of Law

What is it without the Rule of Law?

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Re: Campus Happenings

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Chizzang wrote:The Republic is nothing with the Rule of Law

What is it without the Rule of Law?


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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby css75 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:16 pm

UNI88 wrote:
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Sherman statues would irritate the American Indian more than a Southerner, his idea was to kill all the Buffalo and starve Indians out.


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Re: Campus Happenings

Postby css75 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:18 pm

∞∞∞ wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:The ? is will the statue be put back up, or will mob rule be allowed to rule the day?

Some may get in trouble, but laws are just words - and punishments are simply that. The foundation of an equal society is better in the long-term for civil unrest like this. These students understood the spirit of justice better than anyone involved with the ink and rules.

If that statue goes up, it will be taken down again. And expect more toppings in the future.


Is this right? Do you want a civilized society or mob rule?


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