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Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:00 pm
by CID1990
So I'm not all that savvy when it comes to the latest trends in identity politics and PC stuff. I usually try to ignore it when I can-
But I saw a couple references or articles on it in the last couple weeks. One was I believe a literature critic or someone from either WaPo, WSG or NYT talking about how authors are being criticized for writing fiction with characters outside their own cultures (and of course those cultures would be non white)
Then I saw some discussion on dreadlocks and how white people shouldn't wear them since they are primarily an African thing (although there is some evidence that the Celts, Picts, and possibly Vikings also twisted their hair into "snakes")
What's the take on this? I'm primarily interested in if anyone here agrees with the folks that are suggesting that whites should stay in their own cultural lanes.
Personally, I think these people are racist as fuck for suggesting this and there's some pretty easy ways to refute the logic, but I'm curious
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Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:19 pm
by Chizzang
CID1990 wrote:So I'm not all that savvy when it comes to the latest trends in identity politics and PC stuff. I usually try to ignore it when I can-
But I saw a couple references or articles on it in the last couple weeks. One was I believe a literature critic or someone from either WaPo, WSG or NYT talking about how authors are being criticized for writing fiction with characters outside their own cultures (and of course those cultures would be non white)
Then I saw some discussion on dreadlocks and how white people shouldn't wear them since they are primarily an African thing (although there is some evidence that the Celts, Picts, and possibly Vikings also twisted their hair into "snakes")
What's the take on this? I'm primarily interested in if anyone here agrees with the folks that are suggesting that whites should stay in their own cultural lanes.
Personally, I think these people are racist as fuck for suggesting this and there's some pretty easy ways to refute the logic, but I'm curious
The logical end - if played out all the way - is complete and total racial separation
a multitude of discrete islands within our contiguous boarder
Each containing only one specific race of individuals
Sounds fun...
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:30 am
by kalm
Guess I'm gonna have to burn this album in reprisal...
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And also this one...the "Pride" of Montana...
(He has an interesting bio)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzHHvxNh4PY[/youtube]
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 4:33 am
by Baldy
CID1990 wrote:So I'm not all that savvy when it comes to the latest trends in identity politics and PC stuff. I usually try to ignore it when I can-
But I saw a couple references or articles on it in the last couple weeks. One was I believe a literature critic or someone from either WaPo, WSG or NYT talking about how authors are being criticized for writing fiction with characters outside their own cultures (and of course those cultures would be non white)
Then I saw some discussion on dreadlocks and how white people shouldn't wear them since they are primarily an African thing (although there is some evidence that the Celts, Picts, and possibly Vikings also twisted their hair into "snakes")
What's the take on this? I'm primarily interested in if anyone here agrees with the folks that are suggesting that whites should stay in their own cultural lanes.
Personally, I think these people are racist as fuck for suggesting this and there's some pretty easy ways to refute the logic, but I'm curious
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It would probably be best for you to keep your mouth shut on these critical issues until BLM, La Raza, NAACP, or the White House tells you what you should say, identify with or talk about.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:20 am
by Ibanez
CID1990 wrote:So I'm not all that savvy when it comes to the latest trends in identity politics and PC stuff. I usually try to ignore it when I can-
But I saw a couple references or articles on it in the last couple weeks. One was I believe a literature critic or someone from either WaPo, WSG or NYT talking about how authors are being criticized for writing fiction with characters outside their own cultures (and of course those cultures would be non white)
Then I saw some discussion on dreadlocks and how white people shouldn't wear them since they are primarily an African thing (although there is some evidence that the Celts, Picts, and possibly Vikings also twisted their hair into "snakes")
What's the take on this? I'm primarily interested in if anyone here agrees with the folks that are suggesting that whites should stay in their own cultural lanes.
Personally, I think these people are racist as fuck for suggesting this and there's some pretty easy ways to refute the logic, but I'm curious
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Our culture needs a cleansing.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:32 am
by 93henfan
CID, I work a couple of blocks from Capitol Hill in a building shared with a large hotel that hosts conventions for advocacy groups (2-3 a week usually) marching on the mall or lobbying Congress. I have been here a year and have seen advocacy groups for just about every variation of human being under the sun except one - straight white men.
That's where the country is headed. You can show pride in and fight for whatever you are, as long as it's not being an average straight white man. That would be racist, sexist, genderist, etc.
We are the devil, apparently, and need to be punished and wiped off the face of the planet.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 5:50 am
by kalm
93henfan wrote:CID, I work a couple of blocks from Capitol Hill in a building shared with a large hotel that hosts conventions for advocacy groups (2-3 a week usually) marching on the mall or lobbying Congress. I have been here a year and have seen advocacy groups for just about every variation of human being under the sun except one - straight white men.
That's where the country is headed. You can show pride in and fight for whatever you are, as long as it's not being an average straight white man. That would be racist, sexist, genderist, etc.
We are the devil, apparently, and need to be punished and wiped off the face of the planet.
I'm so goddamned proud to be an average white straight white man, I refuse to like hip hop and R&B. I have well cropped, blond hair, that's a straight as an arrow. My jeans only sag because my white privileged full belly pushes them down and my ass crack hangs out.
What do you feel the need to protest about? Let me know, and I'll join ya...after I'm done bending the brim on my hat.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:00 am
by 93henfan
My biggest issue is that a white male (particularly a disadvantaged one) does not have all the state and federal funding and programs and preferential college selection and preferential hiring available to them that a minority male does. I'm not saying I like more Government; just that if you're going to do it, make it fair. Our country has made the decision that poor white men are not worthy of any help but everyone else is. If you are an intelligent minority male in this country and can't get yourself accepted to a great college and to a great job with any Fortunate 500 company, then you just aren't trying. Everything has been set up to aid you, give you preference, and give you the nod over more qualified white applicants.
Just sticking to facts instead of hyperbole.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:06 am
by Col Hogan
Do I have to burn my copy of Uncle Tom's Cabin since it was written by a white woman?
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:33 am
by CAA Flagship
kalm wrote:93henfan wrote:CID, I work a couple of blocks from Capitol Hill in a building shared with a large hotel that hosts conventions for advocacy groups (2-3 a week usually) marching on the mall or lobbying Congress. I have been here a year and have seen advocacy groups for just about every variation of human being under the sun except one - straight white men.
That's where the country is headed. You can show pride in and fight for whatever you are, as long as it's not being an average straight white man. That would be racist, sexist, genderist, etc.
We are the devil, apparently, and need to be punished and wiped off the face of the planet.
I'm so goddamned proud
to be an average white straight white man, I refuse to like hip hop and R&B. I have well cropped, blond hair, that's a straight as an arrow. My jeans only sag because my white privileged full belly pushes them down and my ass crack hangs out.
What do you feel the need to protest about? Let me know, and I'll join ya...after I'm done bending the brim on my hat.
You can't prove that.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:47 am
by Pwns
I ask again...why is it that it's considered an affront to all black people to dress like a young urban black "gangsta" male, but dressing as a hippie, hillbilly, or ComiCon fanboy doesn't make you racist to whites?
You are basically making a implicit acknowledgement that the gangsta badass is blackness in some way the white stereotypes aren't.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:55 am
by CAA Flagship
Eminem caused this.
Re: RE: Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:09 am
by Bisonfanatical
CAA Flagship wrote:Eminem caused this.
I agree
M&M's are the root of most problems.
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Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:16 am
by Rob Iola
93henfan wrote:... I have been here a year and have seen advocacy groups for just about every variation of human being under the sun except one - straight white men.
...
That would be a Trump rally.
Re: RE: Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:17 am
by CAA Flagship
Bisonfanatical wrote:CAA Flagship wrote:Eminem caused this.
I agree
M&M's are the root of most problems.
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Yes.
We're a confused society. (see pic below).
What's with the white arms and legs?
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:19 am
by mrklean
kalm wrote:93henfan wrote:CID, I work a couple of blocks from Capitol Hill in a building shared with a large hotel that hosts conventions for advocacy groups (2-3 a week usually) marching on the mall or lobbying Congress. I have been here a year and have seen advocacy groups for just about every variation of human being under the sun except one - straight white men.
That's where the country is headed. You can show pride in and fight for whatever you are, as long as it's not being an average straight white man. That would be racist, sexist, genderist, etc.
We are the devil, apparently, and need to be punished and wiped off the face of the planet.
I'm so goddamned proud to be an average white straight white man, I refuse to like hip hop and R&B. I have well cropped, blond hair, that's a straight as an arrow. My jeans only sag because my white privileged full belly pushes them down and my ass crack hangs out.
What do you feel the need to protest about? Let me know, and I'll join ya...after I'm done bending the brim on my hat.
Ode to the average white male
Red necks
White trucks
Blue Ribbon Beer
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:24 am
by 93henfan
mrklean wrote:kalm wrote:
I'm so goddamned proud to be an average white straight white man, I refuse to like hip hop and R&B. I have well cropped, blond hair, that's a straight as an arrow. My jeans only sag because my white privileged full belly pushes them down and my ass crack hangs out.
What do you feel the need to protest about? Let me know, and I'll join ya...after I'm done bending the brim on my hat.
Ode to the average white male
Red necks
White trucks
Blue Ribbon Beer
Thanks for the validation. You proved my point perfectly, and I thank you. Poor white men are the only group allowed to be discriminated against in this country.
Now if I can just get Chizzang or Kalm or Weetag to post a video from multimillionaire Louis CK that states that poor white males are living on easy street, we can go ahead and close this thread.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:29 am
by kalm
93henfan wrote:mrklean wrote:
Ode to the average white male
Red necks
White trucks
Blue Ribbon Beer
Thanks for the validation. You proved my point perfectly, and I thank you. Poor white men are the only group allowed to be discriminated against in this country.
Now if I can just get Chizzang or Kalm or Weetag to post a video from multimillionaire Louis CK that states that poor white males are living on easy street, we can go ahead and close this thread.
What about that bit did you disagree with?
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:30 am
by 93henfan
Rob Iola wrote:93henfan wrote:... I have been here a year and have seen advocacy groups for just about every variation of human being under the sun except one - straight white men.
...
That would be a Trump rally.
Precisely. He's the only person running who hasn't completely bought into the PC nonsense.
Btw, you should stick to insulting kids with special needs. You're far more effective with those kinds of zingers.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:31 am
by mrklean
93henfan wrote:My biggest issue is that a white male (particularly a disadvantaged one) does not have all the state and federal funding and programs and preferential college selection and preferential hiring available to them that a minority male does. I'm not saying I like more Government; just that if you're going to do it, make it fair. Our country has made the decision that poor white men are not worthy of any help but everyone else is. If you are an intelligent minority male in this country and can't get yourself accepted to a great college and to a great job with any Fortunate 500 company, then you just aren't trying. Everything has been set up to aid you, give you preference, and give you the nod over more qualified white applicants.
Just sticking to facts instead of hyperbole.
Where the fuck it this place?
We attend college for free............Full ride scholarships......name me this place so I can get my PhD for free.
If this was true, why does my wife have over 65k in student loans and she graduated undergrad with a 3.87
Where are all of the smart black men in the corporate world?
If you are lucky, you may have 2 or 3 in the top levels. And most of them are gay as hell.
White tear story.........................
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:31 am
by 93henfan
kalm wrote:93henfan wrote:
Thanks for the validation. You proved my point perfectly, and I thank you. Poor white men are the only group allowed to be discriminated against in this country.
Now if I can just get Chizzang or Kalm or Weetag to post a video from multimillionaire Louis CK that states that poor white males are living on easy street, we can go ahead and close this thread.
What about that bit did you disagree with?
The premise that a poor white kid born in the 70s has it easier than a poor black kid born in the 70s. It's obviously not true.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:32 am
by mrklean
93henfan wrote:mrklean wrote:
Ode to the average white male
Red necks
White trucks
Blue Ribbon Beer
Thanks for the validation. You proved my point perfectly, and I thank you. Poor white men are the only group allowed to be discriminated against in this country.
Now if I can just get Chizzang or Kalm or Weetag to post a video from multimillionaire Louis CK that states that poor white males are living on easy street, we can go ahead and close this thread.
I bet you would never trade places with a rich Black man.....never!!!!! You know the ruth
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:34 am
by 93henfan
mrklean wrote:93henfan wrote:My biggest issue is that a white male (particularly a disadvantaged one) does not have all the state and federal funding and programs and preferential college selection and preferential hiring available to them that a minority male does. I'm not saying I like more Government; just that if you're going to do it, make it fair. Our country has made the decision that poor white men are not worthy of any help but everyone else is. If you are an intelligent minority male in this country and can't get yourself accepted to a great college and to a great job with any Fortunate 500 company, then you just aren't trying. Everything has been set up to aid you, give you preference, and give you the nod over more qualified white applicants.
Just sticking to facts instead of hyperbole.
Where the fuck it this place?
We attend college for free............Full ride scholarships......name me this place so I can get my PhD for free.
If this was true, why does my wife have over 65k in student loans and she graduated undergrad with a 3.87
Where are all of the smart black men in the corporate world?
If you are lucky, you may have 2 or 3 in the top levels. And most of them are gay as hell.
White tear story.........................
Sounds more like a black tear story to me. If you are black and can walk, talk, and chew bubble gum at the same time, you are all set.
In fact, part of my job is setting aside, per law, billions of dollars in federal contracts for people simply because they are black (nay, any color but white) and/or female. The simple fact is, the system is rigged to discriminate against white men.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:36 am
by 93henfan
OK, I can't keep kicking so much ass. Got some work to do and errands to complete. It's been fun.
Out.
Re: Cultural appropriation ..... WTF
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:40 am
by mrklean
93henfan wrote:mrklean wrote:
Where the **** it this place?
We attend college for free............Full ride scholarships......name me this place so I can get my PhD for free.
If this was true, why does my wife have over 65k in student loans and she graduated undergrad with a 3.87
Where are all of the smart black men in the corporate world?
If you are lucky, you may have 2 or 3 in the top levels. And most of them are gay as hell.
White tear story.........................
Sounds more like a black tear story to me. If you are black and can walk, talk, and chew bubble gum at the same time, you are all set.
In fact, part of my job is setting aside, per law, billions of dollars in federal contracts for people simply because they are black (nay, any color but white) and/or female. The simple fact is, the system is rigged to discriminate against white men.
More excuses for failure