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PM me your address, 93.

Nobody could really have seen this coming - just the most amazing election cycle possibly ever. Incredible stuff.

Skjellyfetti wrote:PM me your address, 93.

Classy, Skjelly.

Leave me out of it. Make a $70 donation to a charity of your choice.

I like doggies and kitties, so your local SPCA would be great, but it's up to you.

I hope Trump helps rather than hurts. I am mostly just glad that it's not Hillary.

93henfan wrote:

Skjellyfetti wrote:PM me your address, 93.

Classy, Skjelly.

Leave me out of it. Make a $70 donation to a charity of your choice.

I like doggies and kitties, so your local SPCA would be great, but it's up to you.

I hope Trump helps rather than hurts. I am mostly just glad that it's not Hillary.

Well done, 93.

Cluck U wrote:

93henfan wrote:
Classy, Skjelly.

Leave me out of it. Make a $70 donation to a charity of your choice.

I like doggies and kitties, so your local SPCA would be great, but it's up to you.

I hope Trump helps rather than hurts. I am mostly just glad that it's not Hillary.

Well done, 93.

Yup, good stuff. Why wasn't he on Obama's transition team in '09? Hopefully 93 is in touch with Trump before he speaks.

GannonFan wrote:

Cluck U wrote:


Well done, 93.

Yup, good stuff. Why wasn't he on Obama's transition team in '09? Hopefully 93 is in touch with Trump before he speaks.

I wasn't available. I sent AG1 as my surrogate. Oops!

That mistake was Huuuuuge

GannonFan wrote:Nobody could really have seen this coming - just the most amazing election cycle possibly ever. Incredible stuff.

Yes it is. I feel like it was right in front of me and I refused see it. Back in the summer I was booted from a local so-called Progressive website for refusing to stop telling them that independents decide these elections and Hillary didn't have them. At the same time I never seriously thought that anybody would actually for Trump, forgetting that most of his votes were votes against Hillary. Some of the role reversals we're about to see are going to be hilarious. Interesting times indeed.

You weren't the only one who was way wrong Jelly. There's was LOTS of people on here saying things along the lines of:
-Landslide
-Trump is going to get killed, destroyed, etc
-Trump has no chance
-This race is over
-Clinton winning 40 plus states
-Clinton winning by over 10% of the popular vote
-Clinton winning 350, 375 electoral
-We're going to be saying madam president
Etc, etc, etc

Half of those posts were JSO in the Spring-Summer. But also this Summer-Fall on the "Election 2016 Trump v Clinton" thread a double digit # of people on here, heck maybe a majority, were saying things along the same lines- these definitive statements of a lopsided Clinton win..

I'm on record here that I didnt think he'd finish the primaries, wouldn't get the nomination, didn't want the job, etc. I'm in the "just not Hillary" camp and hope he can start acting a little presidential from here out. It says a lot that Bill, Obama, Michelle, Beyonce, Jay-Z, Oprah, Springsteen, Ellen, and Bon Jovi have been running the full court press and still couldn't stop him. I'm amazed.

ASUG8 wrote:I'm on record here that I didnt think he'd finish the primaries, wouldn't get the nomination, didn't want the job, etc. I'm in the "just not Hillary" camp and hope he can start acting a little presidential from here out. It says a lot that Bill, Obama, Michelle, Beyonce, Jay-Z, Oprah, Springsteen, Ellen, and Bon Jovi have been running the full court press and still couldn't stop him. I'm amazed.

Good summation, G8. And Barry Soetoro's "legacy" has been kicked to the curb.

I bet Clinton could use some donations to pay off any campaign debt.

I'm going to man up, Congrats to President Trump. You did the unbelievable! Now get your azz to work!!!!

mrklean wrote:I'm going to man up, Congrats to President Trump. You did the unbelievable! Now get your azz to work!!!!

This. He will have all 3 branches. There's no excuse for not getting anything done.

Ibanez wrote:

mrklean wrote:I'm going to man up, Congrats to President Trump. You did the unbelievable! Now get your azz to work!!!!

This. He will have all 3 branches. There's no excuse for not getting anything done.

That's the interesting part.

ASUG8 wrote: It says a lot that Bill, Obama, Michelle, Beyonce, Jay-Z, Oprah, Springsteen, Ellen, and Bon Jovi have been running the full court press and still couldn't stop him. I'm amazed.

All of those people are losers...although Bruce has some talent.

mrklean wrote:I'm going to man up, Congrats to President Trump. You did the unbelievable! Now get your azz to work!!!!

Hey, Small Mind finally became a Big Man.

Seems as though some of your people weren't ignorant slaves that swallowed the Kool-Aid...good for them.

Congrats to DSU and other smart people who rejected the hateful and divisive rhetoric from Hillary and her lying sack of shIt supporters.

Way back during the Republican primaries I thought Trump would get crushed in the general election because I over estimated the integrity of Republican voters who weren't part of his cult during that selection process and of the Republican Party apparatus. Also I was not expecting things like the Russians jumping in on Trump's side via Wikileaks, the FBI director dropping a bomb 11 days prior to the election, etc.

But once it got close I don't think this was as big an upset as people appear to think with respect to what the polls and projections were showing just prior to the event. As I noted in a post earlier this week a Trump win would be equivalent to an 8 1/2 point underdog winning a football game. No football fan would be shocked by such an outcome. Underdogs of that magnitude win about 30 percent of the time. Not rare.

538 had it at about 72% chance Clinton winning. The accurate way to state that is a 72% confidence level. In the world of statistics you would never look at a 72% confidence level as affirming an expectation. You would not say you can confidently predict something will happen at that level of certainty.

So now we will have a completely unqualified, emotionally immature as well as unstable, thoroughly dishonest man who got where he is by lying to and cheating people throughout his life in that position. That's bad. Fortunately we have a pretty robust system of checks and balances. That's good..

For the long term, I think the Republican Party just signed its death warrant. It's been stated ad nauseam but is nevertheless true that the proportion of non Whites in the electorate is growing. Clinton did not generate sufficient enthusiasm among non Whites to win because she was so flawed and battered. But I think Republicans electing Trump has left a bad taste in most non Whites mouths that is going to be nearly impossible to overcome for the foreseeable future. Even with a bad Democratic candidate non Whites voted for the Democrat by an estimated 74 - 21%. They accounted for an estimated 30% of the voters. It won't be long, in historical terms, before they are 40%, then 50%, then beyond that. The handwriting is on the wall for the Republican Party. It would've been difficult to stay viable with the shifting demographics in any case. Now I think it's going to be impossible.

As for all of us as residents of this land, we do have that system of checks and balances that will hopefully keep Trump from doing too much damage. All we can do is play our cards, control what we can, and make the best of what we can't. Also, since he lies so much, we can hope he was lying about some of the stuff like trying to slap huge tariffs on foreign goods and generally turning us into an isolationist economy. I think people who think his ideas in that area are are good are in for a rude awakening if he actually does it. T

Cluck U wrote:

ASUG8 wrote: It says a lot that Bill, Obama, Michelle, Beyonce, Jay-Z, Oprah, Springsteen, Ellen, and Bon Jovi have been running the full court press and still couldn't stop him. I'm amazed.

All of those people are losers...although Bruce has some talent.

They are today for sure.



But in general...I wouldn't mind losing like they have.

JohnStOnge wrote:Way back during the Republican primaries I thought Trump would get crushed in the general election because I over estimated the integrity of Republican voters who weren't part of his cult during that selection process and of the Republican Party apparatus. Also I was not expecting things like the Wikileaks saga, the FBI director dropping a bomb 11 days prior to the election.

But once it got close I don't think this was as big an upset with respect to what the polls and projections were showing just prior to the event. As I noted in a post earlier this week a Trump win would be equivalent to an 8 1/2 point underdog winning a football game. No football fan would be shocked by such an outcome. Underdogs of that magnitude win about 30 percent of the time. Not rare.

538 had it at about 72% chance Clinton winning. The accurate way to state that is a 72% confidence level. In the world of statistics you would never look at a 72% confidence level as affirming an expectation. You would not say you can confidently predict something will happen at that level of certainty.

So now we will have a completely unqualified, emotionally immature as well as unstable, thoroughly dishonest man who got where he is by lying to and cheating people throughout his life in that position. That's bad. Fortunately we have a pretty robust system of checks and balances. That's good..

For the long term, I think the Republican Party just signed its death warrant. It's been stated ad nauseam but is nevertheless true that the proportion of non Whites in the electorate is growing. Clinton did not generate sufficient enthusiasm among non Whites to win because she was so flawed and battered. But I think Republicans electing Trump has left a bad taste in most non Whites mouths that is going to be nearly impossible to overcome for the foreseeable future. Even with a bad Democratic candidate non Whites voted for the Democrats by an estimated 74 - 21%. They accounted for an estimated 30% of the voters. It won't be long, in historical terms, before they are 40%, then 50%, then beyond that. The handwriting is on the wall for the Republican Party. It would've been difficult to stay viable with the shifting demographics in any case. Now I think it's going to be impossible.

As for all of us as residents of this land, we do have that system of checks and balances that will hopefully keep Trump from doing too much damage. All we can do is play our cards, control what we can, make the best of what we can't. Also, since he lies so much, we can hope he was lying about some of the stuff like trying to slap huge tariffs on foreign goods and generally turning us into an isolationist economy. I think people who think his ideas in that are are good are in for a rude awakening if he actually does it.

Sure, because multi-national wealth and resource extraction has been soooooo good for the working class.

No one is suggesting isolationism, but you're a fool if you think we've leveraged our economic position for the betterment of the country as whole.

Even now...you still don't get it.

kalm wrote:

Cluck U wrote:
All of those people are losers...although Bruce has some talent.

They are today for sure.



But in general...I wouldn't mind losing like they have.

As Archbishop Sheen once said:

Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong.

Whatever faults they may have or however wrong they have been at times in the past, the people to which you were referring were on the right side this time. The right side lost the battle. But what happened during this election cycle including yesterday's result increased the probability that the Republican Party will lose the war in the long term.

kalm wrote:

Ibanez wrote: This. He will have all 3 branches. There's no excuse for not getting anything done.

That's the interesting part.

Obama had a super majority and he wasted it. He shoved Obamacare down everyones throats. The Republicans HAVE to take the high road. No "Elections have Consequences" statements. No "we have to pass it to find out what's in it." It's time to actually make some change. I think he will. He's a non politico who will surround himself with some good people (hopefully). This is a perfect time to rebuild America.

Also, looks like the GOP isn't dead but the Democratic party needs to take a good, long hard look in the mirror. Especially the news media.

Speaking of the media...I can't WAIT for JSO to log on. All those polls...were crap. They underestimated the blue collars in the Rust Belt. I bet they won't do that again.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

A win for Trump and his allies. A loss for the United States.

kalm wrote:

JohnStOnge wrote:Way back during the Republican primaries I thought Trump would get crushed in the general election because I over estimated the integrity of Republican voters who weren't part of his cult during that selection process and of the Republican Party apparatus. Also I was not expecting things like the Wikileaks saga, the FBI director dropping a bomb 11 days prior to the election.

But once it got close I don't think this was as big an upset with respect to what the polls and projections were showing just prior to the event. As I noted in a post earlier this week a Trump win would be equivalent to an 8 1/2 point underdog winning a football game. No football fan would be shocked by such an outcome. Underdogs of that magnitude win about 30 percent of the time. Not rare.

538 had it at about 72% chance Clinton winning. The accurate way to state that is a 72% confidence level. In the world of statistics you would never look at a 72% confidence level as affirming an expectation. You would not say you can confidently predict something will happen at that level of certainty.

So now we will have a completely unqualified, emotionally immature as well as unstable, thoroughly dishonest man who got where he is by lying to and cheating people throughout his life in that position. That's bad. Fortunately we have a pretty robust system of checks and balances. That's good..

For the long term, I think the Republican Party just signed its death warrant. It's been stated ad nauseam but is nevertheless true that the proportion of non Whites in the electorate is growing. Clinton did not generate sufficient enthusiasm among non Whites to win because she was so flawed and battered. But I think Republicans electing Trump has left a bad taste in most non Whites mouths that is going to be nearly impossible to overcome for the foreseeable future. Even with a bad Democratic candidate non Whites voted for the Democrats by an estimated 74 - 21%. They accounted for an estimated 30% of the voters. It won't be long, in historical terms, before they are 40%, then 50%, then beyond that. The handwriting is on the wall for the Republican Party. It would've been difficult to stay viable with the shifting demographics in any case. Now I think it's going to be impossible.

As for all of us as residents of this land, we do have that system of checks and balances that will hopefully keep Trump from doing too much damage. All we can do is play our cards, control what we can, make the best of what we can't. Also, since he lies so much, we can hope he was lying about some of the stuff like trying to slap huge tariffs on foreign goods and generally turning us into an isolationist economy. I think people who think his ideas in that are are good are in for a rude awakening if he actually does it.

Sure, because multi-national wealth and resource extraction has been soooooo good for the working class.

No one is suggesting isolationism, but you're a fool if you think we've leveraged our economic position for the betterment of the country as whole.

Even now...you still don't get it.

Yup...JSO doesn't get it.

JohnStOnge wrote:Way back during the Republican primaries I thought Trump would get crushed in the general election because I over estimated the integrity of Republican voters who weren't part of his cult during that selection process and of the Republican Party apparatus. Also I was not expecting things like the Russians jumping in on Trump's side via Wikileaks, the FBI director dropping a bomb 11 days prior to the election, etc.

But once it got close I don't think this was as big an upset as people appear to think with respect to what the polls and projections were showing just prior to the event. As I noted in a post earlier this week a Trump win would be equivalent to an 8 1/2 point underdog winning a football game. No football fan would be shocked by such an outcome. Underdogs of that magnitude win about 30 percent of the time. Not rare.

538 had it at about 72% chance Clinton winning. The accurate way to state that is a 72% confidence level. In the world of statistics you would never look at a 72% confidence level as affirming an expectation. You would not say you can confidently predict something will happen at that level of certainty.

So now we will have a completely unqualified, emotionally immature as well as unstable, thoroughly dishonest man who got where he is by lying to and cheating people throughout his life in that position. That's bad. Fortunately we have a pretty robust system of checks and balances. That's good..

For the long term, I think the Republican Party just signed its death warrant. It's been stated ad nauseam but is nevertheless true that the proportion of non Whites in the electorate is growing. Clinton did not generate sufficient enthusiasm among non Whites to win because she was so flawed and battered. But I think Republicans electing Trump has left a bad taste in most non Whites mouths that is going to be nearly impossible to overcome for the foreseeable future. Even with a bad Democratic candidate non Whites voted for the Democrat by an estimated 74 - 21%. They accounted for an estimated 30% of the voters. It won't be long, in historical terms, before they are 40%, then 50%, then beyond that. The handwriting is on the wall for the Republican Party. It would've been difficult to stay viable with the shifting demographics in any case. Now I think it's going to be impossible.

As for all of us as residents of this land, we do have that system of checks and balances that will hopefully keep Trump from doing too much damage. All we can do is play our cards, control what we can, and make the best of what we can't. Also, since he lies so much, we can hope he was lying about some of the stuff like trying to slap huge tariffs on foreign goods and generally turning us into an isolationist economy. I think people who think his ideas in that area are are good are in for a rude awakening if he actually does it. T

Trump won't destroy our Republic. Even with the Trifecta, there are powerful Republicans in the House and Senate that will check him.