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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:22 pm
Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:08 am Historic Presidency!

Well, at least Trump wasn't as bad for his party as Obama, under whom the democrats suffered the biggest of any president since Eisenhower. Under Obama donks went from:
60 Senate seats to 48
257 House seats to 194
29 governors to 16
Control (both Houses) of 27 state legislatures to 13. Conks went from 16 to 32.
816 state legislature seats.
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So you must be really excited about how well things are being run now. :thumb:
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houndawg wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 6:20 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:22 pm
Well, at least Trump wasn't as bad for his party as Obama, under whom the democrats suffered the biggest of any president since Eisenhower. Under Obama donks went from:
60 Senate seats to 48
257 House seats to 194
29 governors to 16
Control (both Houses) of 27 state legislatures to 13. Conks went from 16 to 32.
816 state legislature seats.
https://www.quorum.us/data-driven-insig ... isenhower/
So you must be really excited about how well things are being run now. :thumb:
Says the board’s resident retard from Illinois who takes 4+ months to respond to a post.. :dunce:
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 8:58 am
houndawg wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 6:20 am

So you must be really excited about how well things are being run now. :thumb:
Says the board’s resident retard from Illinois who takes 4+ months to respond to a post.. :dunce:
With your constant use of the term retard and I suggest you consider using an insult that doesn’t use the developmentally handicapped to punch down.

But there’s nowhere but up for you! So you’ve got that going for ya. :notworthy:
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 8:58 am
houndawg wrote: Thu May 20, 2021 6:20 am

So you must be really excited about how well things are being run now. :thumb:
Says the board’s resident retard from Illinois who takes 4+ months to respond to a post.. :dunce:
So that others don't run afoul of you, what's the appropriate length between post and response?
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According to a new McLaughlin & Associates survey, 73% of the base wants Trump to run again in 2024. Even more would vote for him if he did run, with 83% saying they would do so. Those are some pretty big numbers, and it’s clear that it means the base hasn’t moved on from Trump.

So, how do other possible, 2020 primary candidates stack up against him? No one is even close; he completely stomps every other possibility, at 57%.

The person in second is perhaps surprising. It’s Vice President Mike Pence at 10%. What about Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who seems to be the second name in other polls? He’s at 8% in this one. Nikki Haley was at 5%. Every other name was lower.

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) shows up at 1% on this poll, and that’s likely an overestimate. I think that shows she has absolutely no constituency.

Meanwhile, what about the Democrats in 2024? 64% thought that Biden was not likely to serve out his term. Even 51% of Biden voters thought that. That doesn’t look great for Biden, although Biden has suggested he would likely try to run again.

Keeping that in mind, the poll asked how a Democratic 2024 primary would stack up without Biden: Kamala led with 35%, Michelle Obama at 16%, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) at 7%, and Pete Buttigieg at 6%.

But perhaps the thing that is going to cause the Democrats to have a complete meltdown is how a projected race between Trump and Kamala Harris would end up.

According to the survey, Trump would trounce Harris, 49% to 45%.

Now, obviously, 2024 is a long way off, but Democrats definitely will not be happy with that prediction. It’s also consistent with the prior poll we reported on that showed that Americans delivering a brutal rejection of Harris — that Americans had an unfavorable opinion of her 48% to 41%, with the critical Independents having an unfavorable opinion of her, 57% to 32%.

Add to that all the mess that unfortunately Biden is going to leave in his wake, the desire to bring back Trump is going to keep growing.
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

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BDKJMU wrote:
According to a new McLaughlin & Associates survey, 73% of the base wants Trump to run again in 2024. Even more would vote for him if he did run, with 83% saying they would do so. Those are some pretty big numbers, and it’s clear that it means the base hasn’t moved on from Trump.

So, how do other possible, 2020 primary candidates stack up against him? No one is even close; he completely stomps every other possibility, at 57%.

The person in second is perhaps surprising. It’s Vice President Mike Pence at 10%. What about Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who seems to be the second name in other polls? He’s at 8% in this one. Nikki Haley was at 5%. Every other name was lower.

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) shows up at 1% on this poll, and that’s likely an overestimate. I think that shows she has absolutely no constituency.

Meanwhile, what about the Democrats in 2024? 64% thought that Biden was not likely to serve out his term. Even 51% of Biden voters thought that. That doesn’t look great for Biden, although Biden has suggested he would likely try to run again.

Keeping that in mind, the poll asked how a Democratic 2024 primary would stack up without Biden: Kamala led with 35%, Michelle Obama at 16%, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) at 7%, and Pete Buttigieg at 6%.

But perhaps the thing that is going to cause the Democrats to have a complete meltdown is how a projected race between Trump and Kamala Harris would end up.

According to the survey, Trump would trounce Harris, 49% to 45%.

Now, obviously, 2024 is a long way off, but Democrats definitely will not be happy with that prediction. It’s also consistent with the prior poll we reported on that showed that Americans delivering a brutal rejection of Harris — that Americans had an unfavorable opinion of her 48% to 41%, with the critical Independents having an unfavorable opinion of her, 57% to 32%.

Add to that all the mess that unfortunately Biden is going to leave in his wake, the desire to bring back Trump is going to keep growing.
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Polling aside, I think the Dems will be doing themselves a great disservice if they deliver the 2024 nomination to Kamala Harris. She was an empty suit in the 2020 primaries, bombed right out of the gate. And she is proving to be an empty suit as VP.

I think pretty much any Republican would trounce her, and the independents would largely be responsible for that. Just as they were in the last two elections. She is just not really very likeable.


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CID1990 wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 11:06 am
Polling aside, I think the Dems will be doing themselves a great disservice if they deliver the 2024 nomination to Kamala Harris. She was an empty suit in the 2020 primaries, bombed right out of the gate. And she is proving to be an empty suit as VP.

I think pretty much any Republican would trounce her, and the independents would largely be responsible for that. Just as they were in the last two elections. She is just not really very likeable.

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Remember when Trump was accused of being a Putin puppet. Well, well, look who's actually proving himself to being a Putin puppet by doing an about face on Nord Stream 2, and waiving sanctions...Good times...
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Yes, 88 - I do

It would be close though ...

Therein lies the danger for both parties -

DeSantis or Hogan would landslide Harris. It would be quite ugly

Trump would scrape past her and then we’d get tied up in the Felchyfetty Russian Collusion Thread Part II

But Trump running again would in fact be a risk - heis the only one that Harris would get close to in the general election. Anu other candidate would clean her clock


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BDKJMU wrote: Sat May 22, 2021 8:18 pm
According to a new McLaughlin & Associates survey, 73% of the base wants Trump to run again in 2024. Even more would vote for him if he did run, with 83% saying they would do so. Those are some pretty big numbers, and it’s clear that it means the base hasn’t moved on from Trump.

So, how do other possible, 2020 primary candidates stack up against him? No one is even close; he completely stomps every other possibility, at 57%.

The person in second is perhaps surprising. It’s Vice President Mike Pence at 10%. What about Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who seems to be the second name in other polls? He’s at 8% in this one. Nikki Haley was at 5%. Every other name was lower.

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) shows up at 1% on this poll, and that’s likely an overestimate. I think that shows she has absolutely no constituency.

Meanwhile, what about the Democrats in 2024? 64% thought that Biden was not likely to serve out his term. Even 51% of Biden voters thought that. That doesn’t look great for Biden, although Biden has suggested he would likely try to run again.

Keeping that in mind, the poll asked how a Democratic 2024 primary would stack up without Biden: Kamala led with 35%, Michelle Obama at 16%, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) at 7%, and Pete Buttigieg at 6%.

But perhaps the thing that is going to cause the Democrats to have a complete meltdown is how a projected race between Trump and Kamala Harris would end up.

According to the survey, Trump would trounce Harris, 49% to 45%.

Now, obviously, 2024 is a long way off, but Democrats definitely will not be happy with that prediction. It’s also consistent with the prior poll we reported on that showed that Americans delivering a brutal rejection of Harris — that Americans had an unfavorable opinion of her 48% to 41%, with the critical Independents having an unfavorable opinion of her, 57% to 32%.

Add to that all the mess that unfortunately Biden is going to leave in his wake, the desire to bring back Trump is going to keep growing.
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CID1990 wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 11:01 pm Yes, 88 - I do

It would be close though ...

Therein lies the danger for both parties -

DeSantis or Hogan would landslide Harris. It would be quite ugly

Trump would scrape past her and then we’d get tied up in the Felchyfetty Russian Collusion Thread Part II

But Trump running again would in fact be a risk - heis the only one that Harris would get close to in the general election. Anu other candidate would clean her clock


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Agreed. She’s an even bigger empty suit than Obama.
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Ibanez wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:24 am
I thought you didn't believe in polls?
Count me in the 27% that don’t want him to run again. But, like 2020, I’d hold my nose and vote for him, most likely. Because I have ZERO faith the Dems would put up any candidate who wasn’t waaaaay left of Biden.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:00 am
Ibanez wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:24 am

I thought you didn't believe in polls?
Count me in the 27% that don’t want him to run again. But, like 2020, I’d hold my nose and vote for him, most likely. Because I have ZERO faith the Dems would put up any candidate who wasn’t waaaaay left of Biden.
Unless he has health or criminal issues you’ll get your wish.
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kalm wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:22 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:00 am

Count me in the 27% that don’t want him to run again. But, like 2020, I’d hold my nose and vote for him, most likely. Because I have ZERO faith the Dems would put up any candidate who wasn’t waaaaay left of Biden.
Unless he has health or criminal issues you’ll get your wish.
Which wish? That he doesn’t run?
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 10:59 am
CID1990 wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 11:01 pm Yes, 88 - I do

It would be close though ...

Therein lies the danger for both parties -

DeSantis or Hogan would landslide Harris. It would be quite ugly

Trump would scrape past her and then we’d get tied up in the Felchyfetty Russian Collusion Thread Part II

But Trump running again would in fact be a risk - heis the only one that Harris would get close to in the general election. Anu other candidate would clean her clock


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Agreed. She’s an even bigger empty suit than Obama.
So an empty suit like Harris is worse than a suit filled with flatulence like Trump? ;)
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It would be really, really stupid to run Biden's token "wxman of cullah" for president in 2024 instead of having a primary race.

I wouldn't put it past Democrats, though.
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UNI88 wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:29 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 10:59 am

Agreed. She’s an even bigger empty suit than Obama.
So an empty suit like Harris is worse than a suit filled with flatulence like Trump? ;)
From a policy standpoint, yes. And that’s really all i care about anyways. To me it’s not a personality contest.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:29 am
kalm wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 11:22 am

Unless he has health or criminal issues you’ll get your wish.
Which wish? That he doesn’t run?
Oops, sorry. I was thinking voting for Trump against a Dem. :oops:
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Remember when Trump had the US Park Police clear ‘mostly peaceful’ protestors by gassing them so he could have a photo op holding a bible upside down in front of a church?

Turns out the FAKE NEWS Media LIED. According to the IG reort issued last week the police had cleared the park to allow a contractor install more anti scale fencing in response to destruction ofproperty in.the area.

One of the many issues 2016-2020 where the Fake News media lied about Trump’s actions.

Even the left has to begrudgingly admit it..
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/09/10048323 ... rump-last-
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:47 pm Remember when Trump had the US Park Police clear ‘mostly peaceful’ protestors by gassing them so he could have a photo op holding a bible upside down in front of a church?

Turns out the FAKE NEWS Media LIED. According to the IG reort issued last week the police had cleared the park to allow a contractor install more anti scale fencing in response to destruction ofproperty in.the area.

One of the many issues 2016-2020 where the Fake News media lied about Trump’s actions.

Even the left has to begrudgingly admit it..
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/09/10048323 ... rump-last-
Glenn Greenwald had a good article on the whole debacle a week back. The IG report was particularly forthcoming in shredding the mainstream media narrative.

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/yet-an ... trump-tear
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:47 pm Remember when Trump had the US Park Police clear ‘mostly peaceful’ protestors by gassing them so he could have a photo op holding a bible upside down in front of a church?

Turns out the FAKE NEWS Media LIED. According to the IG reort issued last week the police had cleared the park to allow a contractor install more anti scale fencing in response to destruction ofproperty in.the area.

One of the many issues 2016-2020 where the Fake News media lied about Trump’s actions.

Even the left has to begrudgingly admit it..
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/09/10048323 ... rump-last-
You're late....

https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... e#p1363357
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Ibanez wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:59 am
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:47 pm Remember when Trump had the US Park Police clear ‘mostly peaceful’ protestors by gassing them so he could have a photo op holding a bible upside down in front of a church?

Turns out the FAKE NEWS Media LIED. According to the IG reort issued last week the police had cleared the park to allow a contractor install more anti scale fencing in response to destruction ofproperty in.the area.

One of the many issues 2016-2020 where the Fake News media lied about Trump’s actions.

Even the left has to begrudgingly admit it..
https://www.npr.org/2021/06/09/10048323 ... rump-last-
You're late....

https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... e#p1363357
No I wasn‘t. That link made no mention of the IG report‘s findings. It couldn’t have, as it hadn‘t even been released yet.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:01 pm
Ibanez wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:59 am

You're late....

https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... e#p1363357
No I wasn‘t. That link made no mention of the IG report‘s findings. It couldn’t have, as it hadn‘t even been released yet.
Oops my bad. I should've said you're late on gas dispersal. That had been confirmed...after you denied it occurred.
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DuckDuckGriz wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:24 pm Jesus fucking Christ :? :ohno: :ohno:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/08/us/g ... litia.html


Defendants claiming that the FBI set them up.

An examination of the case by BuzzFeed News also reveals that some of those informants, acting under the direction of the FBI, played a far larger role than has previously been reported. Working in secret, they did more than just passively observe and report on the actions of the suspects. Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.

A longtime government informant from Wisconsin, for example, helped organize a series of meetings around the country where many of the alleged plotters first met one another and the earliest notions of a plan took root, some of those people say. The Wisconsin informant even paid for some hotel rooms and food as an incentive to get people to come.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ke ... -informant
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... -up-report
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HI54UNI wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:34 am
DuckDuckGriz wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:24 pm Jesus fucking Christ :? :ohno: :ohno:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/08/us/g ... litia.html


Defendants claiming that the FBI set them up.

An examination of the case by BuzzFeed News also reveals that some of those informants, acting under the direction of the FBI, played a far larger role than has previously been reported. Working in secret, they did more than just passively observe and report on the actions of the suspects. Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.

A longtime government informant from Wisconsin, for example, helped organize a series of meetings around the country where many of the alleged plotters first met one another and the earliest notions of a plan took root, some of those people say. The Wisconsin informant even paid for some hotel rooms and food as an incentive to get people to come.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ke ... -informant
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... -up-report
What did they have? Something like 11 FBI agents in with 6 nutjobs? Totally pulled ng those numbers out my ass, so don't expect them to be accurate.
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