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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby Skjellyfetti » Sun May 13, 2018 8:07 pm

CID1990 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Pretty cool. His preaching style will be a shock for the royals. But, I guess he will tone it down some. :lol:

Shared a beer with him back when he was Bishop of NC.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... 46ed6d09b1


Yes, but is he MAGA-ing?


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Meant to post it in the "news stories that don't warrant their own thread" thread.

But, since you mention it - it is MAGA-ing. Just not in the Trumpian sense. :thumb:
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby UNI88 » Sun May 13, 2018 8:59 pm

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Pwns wrote:Somebody forgot to tell the Norks we aren't to be trusted because we reneged on the Iran deal.

They can't really trust us less than they already do...which is exactly 0%.

I don't know why (I should know better) but I'm amazed by the complete roll reversal since the 2016 elections. It's like the Donks and the Conks exchanged playbooks.

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Re: The Official

Postby CID1990 » Sun May 13, 2018 9:07 pm

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CID1990 wrote:
Do we want to be trusted by a country like North Korea?

What would that look like, I wonder?


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What’s wrong with being trustworthy? Asking for a friend...


Weren't we just talking about reductio ad absurdum?

Remember - its supposed to be funny

But I'll play - there's nothing wrong with it depending on whose trust we're after.

Would we pride ourselves on being viewed as trustworthy by Russia? What about Japan or Germany in 1939?

So I'll ask again - to be trusted by North Korea, Russia or Iran - what would that look like? What would we need to do to earn the trust of fundamentally dishonest regimes?

Maybe we could sell Iran some weapons under the table - that would foster some trust, wouldn't it?
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Re: RE: Re: The Official

Postby UNI88 » Mon May 14, 2018 5:35 am

CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
What’s wrong with being trustworthy? Asking for a friend...


Weren't we just talking about reductio ad absurdum?

Remember - its supposed to be funny

But I'll play - there's nothing wrong with it depending on whose trust we're after.

Would we pride ourselves on being viewed as trustworthy by Russia? What about Japan or Germany in 1939?

So I'll ask again - to be trusted by North Korea, Russia or Iran - what would that look like? What would we need to do to earn the trust of fundamentally dishonest regimes?

Maybe we could sell Iran some weapons under the table - that would foster some trust, wouldn't it?
Reagan was a trust building genius? Welcome to the Reagan fanclub Kalm! :D

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Re: The Official

Postby kalm » Mon May 14, 2018 5:52 am

CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
What’s wrong with being trustworthy? Asking for a friend...


Weren't we just talking about reductio ad absurdum?

Remember - its supposed to be funny

But I'll play - there's nothing wrong with it depending on whose trust we're after.

Would we pride ourselves on being viewed as trustworthy by Russia? What about Japan or Germany in 1939?

So I'll ask again - to be trusted by North Korea, Russia or Iran - what would that look like? What would we need to do to earn the trust of fundamentally dishonest regimes?

Maybe we could sell Iran some weapons under the table - that would foster some trust, wouldn't it?


Did I say something about sacrificing principles or leverage in order to gain trust? Why wouldn't we want to be trusted by a country like North Korea? Trustworthiness is a virtue that only applies to individuals?

The US can be trusted to honor deals it makes.

The US can be trusted to follow through with threats.

The US can be trusted to not negotiate with terrorists.

The US can be trusted to never enter agreements with bad actors.

Sounds horrible and weak, Niccolo.
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Re: RE: Re: The Official

Postby kalm » Mon May 14, 2018 5:54 am

UNI88 wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Weren't we just talking about reductio ad absurdum?

Remember - its supposed to be funny

But I'll play - there's nothing wrong with it depending on whose trust we're after.

Would we pride ourselves on being viewed as trustworthy by Russia? What about Japan or Germany in 1939?

So I'll ask again - to be trusted by North Korea, Russia or Iran - what would that look like? What would we need to do to earn the trust of fundamentally dishonest regimes?

Maybe we could sell Iran some weapons under the table - that would foster some trust, wouldn't it?
Reagan was a trust building genius? Welcome to the Reagan fanclub Kalm! :D


Exactly. It was a good thing when Saint Reagy did it. :thumb:
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby Pwns » Mon May 14, 2018 7:12 am

Earning the trust of a country that sees enemies everywhere is at best unreasonable and at worst impossible.

It would be like trying to earn the trust of "overly attached girlfriend". :nod:

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The best thing you can do is to just show them they've got no other choice than to go along.
We get the government we deserve. :nod:

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby kalm » Mon May 14, 2018 7:28 am

Pwns wrote:Earning the trust of a country that sees enemies everywhere is at best unreasonable and at worst impossible.

It would be like trying to earn the trust of "overly attached girlfriend". :nod:

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The best thing you can do is to just show them they've got no other choice than to go along.


Doesn’t every country see enemies everywhere?
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby Pwns » Mon May 14, 2018 7:30 am

kalm wrote:
Pwns wrote:Earning the trust of a country that sees enemies everywhere is at best unreasonable and at worst impossible.

It would be like trying to earn the trust of "overly attached girlfriend". :nod:

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The best thing you can do is to just show them they've got no other choice than to go along.


Doesn’t every country see enemies everywhere?


Figuratively speaking maybe. But with North Korea it's close to being literal. It's easily the most insular country on Earth.
We get the government we deserve. :nod:

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby kalm » Mon May 14, 2018 7:31 am

Pwns wrote:
kalm wrote:
Doesn’t every country see enemies everywhere?


Figuratively speaking maybe. But with North Korea it's close to being literal. It's easily the most insular country on Earth.


Maybe they just need a hug?
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby CID1990 » Mon May 14, 2018 8:28 am

kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Weren't we just talking about reductio ad absurdum?

Remember - its supposed to be funny

But I'll play - there's nothing wrong with it depending on whose trust we're after.

Would we pride ourselves on being viewed as trustworthy by Russia? What about Japan or Germany in 1939?

So I'll ask again - to be trusted by North Korea, Russia or Iran - what would that look like? What would we need to do to earn the trust of fundamentally dishonest regimes?

Maybe we could sell Iran some weapons under the table - that would foster some trust, wouldn't it?


Did I say something about sacrificing principles or leverage in order to gain trust? Why wouldn't we want to be trusted by a country like North Korea? Trustworthiness is a virtue that only applies to individuals?

The US can be trusted to honor deals it makes.

The US can be trusted to follow through with threats.

The US can be trusted to not negotiate with terrorists.

The US can be trusted to never enter agreements with bad actors.

Sounds horrible and weak, Niccolo.


That’s not what I am asking, Corky

Trust means some level of amity when it comes to nation states

There’s a way you become “trusted” by Iran and North Korea - and that’s a road you’d complain to high hell about if we took it - in fact, we once did... and you do
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: The Official

Postby UNI88 » Mon May 14, 2018 9:53 am

kalm wrote:
UNI88 wrote:Reagan was a trust building genius? Welcome to the Reagan fanclub Kalm! :D


Exactly. It was a good thing when Saint Reagy did it. :thumb:
Iran Contra is a stain on Reagan's legacy. With that in mind, how should we view Obama's Iran deal?

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: The Official

Postby Ivytalk » Mon May 14, 2018 11:46 am

UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Exactly. It was a good thing when Saint Reagy did it. :thumb:
Iran Contra is a stain on Reagan's legacy. With that in mind, how should we view Obama's Iran deal?

As a shitstain. :nod:
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: The Official

Postby CAA Flagship » Mon May 14, 2018 1:10 pm

Ivytalk wrote:
UNI88 wrote:Iran Contra is a stain on Reagan's legacy. With that in mind, how should we view Obama's Iran deal?

As a shitstain. :nod:

:rofl: :rofl:

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Re: The Official

Postby kalm » Mon May 14, 2018 2:53 pm

CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Did I say something about sacrificing principles or leverage in order to gain trust? Why wouldn't we want to be trusted by a country like North Korea? Trustworthiness is a virtue that only applies to individuals?

The US can be trusted to honor deals it makes.

The US can be trusted to follow through with threats.

The US can be trusted to not negotiate with terrorists.

The US can be trusted to never enter agreements with bad actors.

Sounds horrible and weak, Niccolo.


That’s not what I am asking, Corky

Trust means some level of amity when it comes to nation states

There’s a way you become “trusted” by Iran and North Korea - and that’s a road you’d complain to high hell about if we took it - in fact, we once did... and you do


Mosaddegh?

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby Ibanez » Tue May 15, 2018 6:59 am

So...we impose trade sanctions on China (ZTE) and now that they're failing, Trump is going to bail them out? Help them survive?

WTF? Are we Making China Great Again?
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby CAA Flagship » Tue May 15, 2018 7:17 am

Ibanez wrote:So...we impose trade sanctions on China (ZTE) and now that they're failing, Trump is going to bail them out? Help them survive?

WTF? Are we Making China Great Again?

Not without something in return.............maybe?

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby Ibanez » Tue May 15, 2018 8:01 am

CAA Flagship wrote:
Ibanez wrote:So...we impose trade sanctions on China (ZTE) and now that they're failing, Trump is going to bail them out? Help them survive?

WTF? Are we Making China Great Again?

Not without something in return.............maybe?

No doubt.

But the optics aren't that good (at least to this independent person).

All throughout the campaign it was "America Good, China Bad","America First", etc... ZTE gets accused of espionage, we sanction it and now we're going to save it? :dunce: Trump need to get off Twitter and present a clear message. Why this Chinese company? Because they procure American parts? Some more information is needed but something is rotten in the State of Shenzhen. :coffee: :twocents:
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby Skjellyfetti » Tue May 15, 2018 10:14 am

I'm sure the Chinese government pledging $500 million to a project in Indonesia with Trump branded hotel, golf course, and residences did not influence his decision in any way whatsoever. :coffee:


http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast ... t-and-road
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby Ivytalk » Tue May 15, 2018 12:25 pm

The wolves are baying about the Emoluments Clause.

And geese.
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby Gil Dobie » Tue May 15, 2018 3:46 pm

Pwns wrote:Earning the trust of a country that sees enemies everywhere is at best unreasonable and at worst impossible.

It would be like trying to earn the trust of "overly attached girlfriend". :nod:

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The best thing you can do is to just show them they've got no other choice than to go along.


She looks like Wallis Currie-Wood.
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Re: The Official

Postby houndawg » Wed May 16, 2018 1:35 am

CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
What’s wrong with being trustworthy? Asking for a friend...


Weren't we just talking about reductio ad absurdum?

Remember - its supposed to be funny

But I'll play - there's nothing wrong with it depending on whose trust we're after.

Would we pride ourselves on being viewed as trustworthy by Russia? What about Japan or Germany in 1939?

So I'll ask again - to be trusted by North Korea, Russia or Iran - what would that look like? What would we need to do to earn the trust of fundamentally dishonest regimes?

Maybe we could sell Iran some weapons under the table - that would foster some trust, wouldn't it?


or maybe a birthday cake and a Bible? I think that worked with Iran.
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby houndawg » Wed May 16, 2018 1:37 am

Skjellyfetti wrote:I'm sure the Chinese government pledging $500 million to a project in Indonesia with Trump branded hotel, golf course, and residences did not influence his decision in any way whatsoever. :coffee:


http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast ... t-and-road


Pocket change. Dude makes $3 million every time he golfs. :coffee:
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby ∞∞∞ » Wed May 16, 2018 3:48 am

houndawg wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:I'm sure the Chinese government pledging $500 million to a project in Indonesia with Trump branded hotel, golf course, and residences did not influence his decision in any way whatsoever. :coffee:


http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast ... t-and-road


Pocket change. Dude makes $3 million every time he golfs. :coffee:

But her emails...

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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

Postby Ibanez » Wed May 16, 2018 5:21 am

∞∞∞ wrote:
houndawg wrote:
Pocket change. Dude makes $3 million every time he golfs. :coffee:

But her emails...

The classified emails she passed through her personal, unsecured server? :coffee:

Yeah - there isn't anything shady about that. Hell, who here HASN'T hired a company to do that instead of using the email infrastructure that their employer already provides. It's common place. I know I had a server in my bathroom managing all my emails and communications when I held a TS clearance with SAIC, Booz Allen and DHS. :thumb:


Again - it wasn't the emails per se, it was the disregard for protocol and rules (rules that were in place) and the mishandling of information.
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