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Chizzang wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
Well then

Let’s just swing them doors wide then, right?

Should the President of the United States
With an immigrant wife

tell US elected officials to go back where they come from Mr. Border Patrol Agent?



you're going to defend that..?

Probably not.

But if his wife was a 1st gen American hating antisemite, bashing the US, someone should tell her the same thing. But she’e has shown a ALOT more appreciation for the US than the Somalian twit..

∞∞∞ wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:Holy ****. We got ourselves a martyr here, fellas.

Not a martyr, not at all. Just one of tens of millions who hasn't lost sight about what America is striving to become. It's not a perfect union, but I want to be a minuscule part in achieving that promise.

I never thought racism and sexism and all this garbage would increase as I grow older, but here we are and I can't change history. But I can try, in whatever small way I can, to pass away in an America which is better for liberty than the one I was born into.

Ultimately, I'll be forgotten. You too. We all will. America, whether successful or failed, will not be.

My legacy, yours too, is a successful America...not to capitalism or any economic system, but to liberty.

This from the guy who wants to tear up our Constitution and start over.

CID1990 wrote:

houndawg wrote:
They almost had to be exposed from the rear?

Open grate in the top behind the turret.

Sounds like a real bitch when its time to set the valves

AZGrizFan wrote:

houndawg wrote:
..maybe that will decrease as the big boys and administration officials get serious about monetizing brown children? I'm not optimistic but you never know about the unintended consequences. Right now they're worth in the neighborhood of a quarter million per kid per year, if you can hang on to them for that long. Keep costs down on stuff like toothpaste and soap, cut in a couple of cabinet officials, and you're looking at some nice returns for the investors...

So what you’re saying is that if the Dems stop encouraging illegals to storm the border, we’ll go back to killing ragheads instead?

They're storming the border because we fucked things up where they live. Dumbass. And I sure hope that our empire has not crumbled to the point where we have to stop killing ragheads just to make some bank trafficing children.

SDHornet wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:
All he had to do was STFU and watch them implode from within....

Stupid thing to say/tweet...

...and still waiting for a legit explanation as to how the tweets are racist. Just sayin'.

You guys are missing the fun part. I'm going to vote for every female on the ballot who has enough self-respect to not be a Republican just for the fun of knowing that those miserable excuses for human beings will have to go to work every day with lots of pissed off women.

I don't think Trump is doing this by accident - if there are two issues he wants people talking about into 2020 it's the economy & immigration.

∞∞∞ wrote:

Chizzang wrote:Imagine...
having to spin around in circles to defend the president of the united states

They see the ugly side of Trump in themselves and fear confronting it. Take away economic conservatism, there's very little to justify the racism, sexism, lying, corruption, concentration camps, etc.

Rather than taking a moment to think "Maybe that was awful, maybe I'm kinda awful and need to re-evaluate how I see the world," they prefer to dig in and accuse everyone else of misunderstanding them.

Just STFU with the concentration camps. This why you leftists lose so goddamn much and are such a pain in the ass. You make irrational comparisons to stoke fear. Stick to the facts.

I'm in no way defending Trump or his policies. These people aren't not American citizens being rounded up, trucked to facilities where they will not bed fed or cared for; where they'll work in factories or farms as well as be systematically murdered. That is the a concentration camp.

These people are in detention facilities b/c they illegally entered. I don't like the conditions as much as you and I sure as shit don't approve of separating children from families. But the analogy to a concentration camp is intellectually dishonest and you're only using it to further attempt to compare Trump to Hitler. Which again, is intellectually false and dishonest. It's fear mongering. Stick the facts.

Unless I missed it, I didn't see live video from AOCs and the other Dems visits that prove everything they say. I'm just supposed to take their word for it? For the record, the Republicans would have to have a live stream as well for me to believe.

Better yet, have the Democrats go in with Fox News Live and the Republicans with CNN Live and then MAYBE I'll believe what is really happening. So far I have to take the word of BIASED politicians and BIASED media personalities and reporters.


Seems to me the conditions are more like a slum, not a death camp. But, that doesn't help convince the idiots drones of the Democratic Party understand how bad the conditions are.

∞∞∞ wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
You might be one of the least self-aware socialists I have ever encountered

That’s quite an achievement.

I want an economic change in line with America's promise of liberty. If you think it's socialist fight for an economic system which values education, healthcare, the environment, technology, and infrastructure over the military and corporations...so be it. But remember, there's nothing about socialism, capitalism, or communism in the Constitution. It promises liberty and democracy and a power to the people.

You on the other hand care nothing for these promises. And for what? Money? Power? Feeling like you're more important than an another? You've forgotten what the American experiment strives to achieve.

Rest assured, I have not. And as long as one person remembers that, America lives.

Please list the socialist democracies.


Is that even possible?

A concentration camp doesn't have to be a death camp. What a ridiculous argument.

It's a concentration camp. We concentrate people and hold them against their will for long periods of time in sub-par, crowded conditions. They can be released, either to their nations of origin or into the United States until they await trial, but that's not the choice the government is making.

We separate children from parents. We lose track of them. Some die.

America is running concentration camps.

Ibanez wrote:

∞∞∞ wrote: I want an economic change in line with America's promise of liberty. If you think it's socialist fight for an economic system which values education, healthcare, the environment, technology, and infrastructure over the military and corporations...so be it. But remember, there's nothing about socialism, capitalism, or communism in the Constitution. It promises liberty and democracy and a power to the people.

You on the other hand care nothing for these promises. And for what? Money? Power? Feeling like you're more important than an another? You've forgotten what the American experiment strives to achieve.

Rest assured, I have not. And as long as one person remembers that, America lives.

Please list the socialist democracies.


Is that even possible?

What? I know you're smarter than that...by a long shot. I know you can search "democratic socialist nations" and see for yourself (one right north of us, others across the pond).

Socialism is an economic ideology. Democracy is a political one. They can (and do) co-exist successfully. And yes, in other states, they don't.

It's not like America itself has no socialist elements to it.

∞∞∞ wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Please list the socialist democracies.


Is that even possible?

What? I know you're smarter than that...by a long shot. I know you can search "democratic socialist nations" and see for yourself (one right north of us, others across the pond).

Socialism is an economic ideology. Democracy is a political one. They can (and do) co-exist successfully. And yes, in other states, they don't.

It's not like America itself has no socialist elements to it.

No, they don’t coexist successfully.

Go ahead and name one of them - try one of those Scandinavian countries you armchair Bolsheviks like to point to so I can school you


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CID1990 wrote:

∞∞∞ wrote: What? I know you're smarter than that...by a long shot. I know you can search "democratic socialist nations" and see for yourself (one right north of us, others across the pond).

Socialism is an economic ideology. Democracy is a political one. They can (and do) co-exist successfully. And yes, in other states, they don't.

It's not like America itself has no socialist elements to it.

No, they don’t coexist successfully.

Go ahead and name one of them - try one of those Scandinavian countries you armchair Bolsheviks like to point to so I can school you

This is going to be good.

∞∞∞ wrote:A concentration camp doesn't have to be a death camp. What a ridiculous argument.

It's a concentration camp. We concentrate people and hold them against their will for long periods of time in sub-par, crowded conditions. They can be released, either to their nations of origin or into the United States until they await trial, but that's not the choice the government is making.

We separate children from parents. We lose track of them. Some die.

America is running concentration camps.

If only the Jews had just "turned around and gone home"....you're telling me the holocaust could have been avoided?

AZGrizFan wrote:

CID1990 wrote:
No, they don’t coexist successfully.

Go ahead and name one of them - try one of those Scandinavian countries you armchair Bolsheviks like to point to so I can school you

This is going to be good.

I have work and contribute to society, unlike you guys who seem to be here all day.

Go ahead, name why one of the Scandinavian nations is shitty. Or France. Or Canada.

∞∞∞ wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

This is going to be good.

I have work and contribute to society, unlike you guys who seem to be here all day.

Go ahead, name why one of the Scandinavian nations is shitty. Or France. Or Canada.

France?

FRANCE???

THAT'S your shining beacon of hope?

AZGrizFan wrote:If only the Jews had just "turned around and gone home"....you're telling me the holocaust could have been avoided?

WTF? Where am I comparing the Holocaust to the concentration camps we have now. Are concentration camps a purely Holocaust term now?

∞∞∞ wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:If only the Jews had just "turned around and gone home"....you're telling me the holocaust could have been avoided?

WTF? Where am I comparing the Holocaust to the concentration camps we have now. Are concentration camps a purely Holocaust term now?

These people could have avoided the entire situation. They chose not to. They chose to break our laws. Try entering Mexico illegally and see where that gets you.

Go ahead, we'll wait.

∞∞∞ wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

This is going to be good.

I have work and contribute to society, unlike you guys who seem to be here all day.

Go ahead, name why one of the Scandinavian nations is shitty. Or France. Or Canada.

They aren’t shitty. Because they aren’t socialist.

Well actually France is a bit shitty. Especially if you are a Jew these days


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CID1990 wrote:

∞∞∞ wrote: I have work and contribute to society, unlike you guys who seem to be here all day.

Go ahead, name why one of the Scandinavian nations is shitty. Or France. Or Canada.

They aren’t shitty. Because they aren’t socialist.

Well actually France is a bit shitty. Especially if you are a Jew these days


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Right. They're mixed economy democracies.

∞∞∞ wrote:

Ibanez wrote:
Please list the socialist democracies.


Is that even possible?

What? I know you're smarter than that...by a long shot. I know you can search "democratic socialist nations" and see for yourself (one right north of us, others across the pond).

Socialism is an economic ideology. Democracy is a political one. They can (and do) co-exist successfully. And yes, in other states, they don't.

It's not like America itself has no socialist elements to it.

I'm fully aware of the socialist programs in America.

The two seem to be contradictory. One is government control. The other has elected representatives of the people.

∞∞∞ wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:

This is going to be good.

I have work and contribute to society, unlike you guys who seem to be here all day.

Go ahead, name why one of the Scandinavian nations is shitty. Or France. Or Canada.

Dude, you can't put people down for being on CS when you're on CS.

∞∞∞ wrote:A concentration camp doesn't have to be a death camp. What a ridiculous argument.

It's a concentration camp. We concentrate people and hold them against their will for long periods of time in sub-par, crowded conditions. They can be released, either to their nations of origin or into the United States until they await trial, but that's not the choice the government is making.

We separate children from parents. We lose track of them. Some die.

America is running concentration camps.

Trip, Trip, Trip. You have missed the fucking point. A concentration camp has a specific meaning post WW2. You say concentration camp in 2019 and the implication is to associate something with Nazi Germany. C'mon man, you can't be that ignorant. You're so biased that you have lost all critical thinking and objectivity.

And please, tell me more how Jews, Catholics, Gyspys, homosexuals, POWs and other dissidents weren't killed in concentration camps because they weren't in an extermination camps by our definition. I'm sure all those families of people who died in labor camps and concentration camps will feel better about their murdered relatives fates.

Don't pervert history this way. It's beneath you.

∞∞∞ wrote:

AZGrizFan wrote:If only the Jews had just "turned around and gone home"....you're telling me the holocaust could have been avoided?

WTF? Where am I comparing the Holocaust to the concentration camps we have now. Are concentration camps a purely Holocaust term now?

Yes, post WW2 the term is associated with the Holocaust. Kinda how the swastika is not associated with Native American tribes or the countless other civilizations that used it. You see a swastika in 2019 and you immediately think of Nazis Germany.

You're just being obtuse. That's exactly why the term is used and you know it.

"Your honor, I wasn't spray-painting a swastika on the synagogue. That was the pagan symbol of good fortune."

Ibanez wrote:

∞∞∞ wrote:A concentration camp doesn't have to be a death camp. What a ridiculous argument.

It's a concentration camp. We concentrate people and hold them against their will for long periods of time in sub-par, crowded conditions. They can be released, either to their nations of origin or into the United States until they await trial, but that's not the choice the government is making.

We separate children from parents. We lose track of them. Some die.

America is running concentration camps.

Trip, Trip, Trip. You have missed the **** point. A concentration camp has a specific meaning post WW2. You say concentration camp in 2019 and the implication is to associate something with Nazi Germany. C'mon man, you can't be that ignorant. You're so biased that you have lost all critical thinking and objectivity.

And please, tell me more how Jews, Catholics, Gyspys, homosexuals, POWs and other dissidents weren't killed in concentration camps because they weren't in an extermination camps by our definition. I'm sure all those families of people who died in labor camps and concentration camps will feel better about their murdered relatives fates.

Don't pervert history this way. It's beneath you.

Very well stated Ibanez, Trip, I used to think you were smart but immature, and figured you would grow up and out of idiocy. Now, I am questioning my assessment because what you are stating is beyond stupid.


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