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BDKJMU wrote:Merriam Webster definition of a nationalist:
: an advocate of or believer in nationalism: loyalty and devotion to a nation
especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
2 : a member of a political party or group advocating national independence or strong national government
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalist

No one should have to apologize for being a nationalist.
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Merriam Webster definition of a white nationalist
one of a group of militant whites who espouse white supremacy and advocate enforced racial segregation

… his vision for the community—an enclave where residents fly "racialist" banners, where they are able to import enough … white nationalists to take control of the town government …
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: If you’re white..
And if you’re a nationalist.
Then you’re a nationalist white guy but not necessarily a white nationalist. :suspicious:
You're not necessarily a White Nationalist until you identify yourself as one...
by calling yourself a White Nationalist

You're right - It's not that confusing

:nod:

He called himself a Proud White Nationalist... that about sums it up I think
Again: Still not sure why he dropped out

Glad he dropped out, conservatives catch enough flack from the media without this clown setting himself up for it.


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BDKJMU wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
You understand the difference between "A Nationalist" and a "White Nationalist" ..?
These things are different

:coffee:

One is a form a Patriotism
the other is white supremacy

I applaud the guy for being honest
Not sure why he'd withdraw from running he'd get a bunch of votes
If you’re white..
And if you’re a nationalist.
Then you’re a nationalist white guy but not necessarily a white nationalist. :suspicious:
I’m supreme...and I’m white...but...therefore.
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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Merriam Webster definition of a nationalist:
: an advocate of or believer in nationalism: loyalty and devotion to a nation
especially : a sense of national consciousness (see CONSCIOUSNESS sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
2 : a member of a political party or group advocating national independence or strong national government
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nationalist

No one should have to apologize for being a nationalist.
You understand the difference between "A Nationalist" and a "White Nationalist" ..?
These things are different

:coffee:

One is a form a Patriotism
the other is white supremacy

I applaud the guy for being honest
Not sure why he'd withdraw from running he'd get a bunch of votes
If you’re a white nationalist it would be easier to pick a mostly white country... like Poland or Hungary... and go there

instead of trying to radically change your own

That applies also to socialists


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Trump, I like 80% of what he has done as President, I hate 80% of what he says/tweets.

Trump is a crude, egocentric buffon. He is not the racist that the mlm makes him out to be.

Imho he is less racist than Obama. His rhetoric is not the smooth soothing crap that the big O put out, but his actions are certainly more positive.

I'll take the guy that says the wrong thing and does the right thing over the guy that says the right thing and does the wrong thing.

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CID1990 wrote: If you’re a white nationalist it would be easier to pick a mostly white country... like Poland or Hungary... and go there
But the food sucks.

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CID1990 wrote: If you’re a white nationalist it would be easier to pick a mostly white country... like Poland or Hungary... and go there
But the food sucks.
Shut your piehole, the soup in Poland is fvcking amazing. :D

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Partial win for Tump on barring asylum seekers in the U.S. if they first passed through another nation without seeking protection:

“A federal appeals court on Friday handed the Trump administration a partial victory in its quest for an asylum ban, appearing to clear the way for imposing it along the border in New Mexico and Texas, at least temporarily.

While the three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit upheld a lower court's decision to block the ban, it narrowed the nationwide injunction to the 9th Circuit, which encompasses district courts in the border states of Arizona and California....”
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019 ... p-1667003P

Good. A single circuit judge shouldn’t be able to issue a nationwide injunction- the injunction should be limited to his/her circuit. A say single 9th Circuit Judge shouldn’t be able to issue an injunction that rules on what can happen in say the 5th Circuit, without a single 5th Circuit nudge having the opportunity to overturn the injunction applying in the 5th Circuit.

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BDKJMU wrote:Partial win for Tump on barring asylum seekers in the U.S. if they first passed through another nation without seeking protection:

“A federal appeals court on Friday handed the Trump administration a partial victory in its quest for an asylum ban, appearing to clear the way for imposing it along the border in New Mexico and Texas, at least temporarily.

While the three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit upheld a lower court's decision to block the ban, it narrowed the nationwide injunction to the 9th Circuit, which encompasses district courts in the border states of Arizona and California....”
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2019 ... p-1667003P

Good. A single circuit judge shouldn’t be able to issue a nationwide injunction- the injunction should be limited to his/her circuit. A say single 9th Circuit Judge shouldn’t be able to issue an injunction that rules on what can happen in say the 5th Circuit, without a single 5th Circuit nudge having the opportunity to overturn the injunction applying in the 5th Circuit.

With all the judges Trump is appointing the 9 th will be a lot more real in the future.


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Appointment of judges who rule on the law and don’t make it, reduction of unnecessary and counterproductive government regulation and intrusion, tax reform leading to increased employment and prosperity, providing for common defense to keep all safe, border security and administration of immigration laws, equal rights for all(not special rights for certain groups). Some see this as racist sexist and anti immigrants and anti alternate lifestyle as their special treatment lessens. Others see it as pursuing the ideals of MLK and JFK and making America greater.


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https://apnews.com/4ad2fadb147145b49eb7e343ceb4aa2b
Still, the Republican president took to Twitter on Monday to urge the Federal Reserve to stimulate the economy by cutting interest rates and returning to “quantitative easing” of its monetary policy, an indication of deep anxiety beneath his administration’s bravado.
uh oh....isn't that what many Republicans (including some on here) have railed against?
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Ibanez wrote:https://apnews.com/4ad2fadb147145b49eb7e343ceb4aa2b
Still, the Republican president took to Twitter on Monday to urge the Federal Reserve to stimulate the economy by cutting interest rates and returning to “quantitative easing” of its monetary policy, an indication of deep anxiety beneath his administration’s bravado.
uh oh....isn't that what many Republicans (including some on here) have railed against?
No, not railing against. Saying it is a headwind for economic growth.

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Ibanez wrote:https://apnews.com/4ad2fadb147145b49eb7e343ceb4aa2b



uh oh....isn't that what many Republicans (including some on here) have railed against?
No, not railing against. Saying it is a headwind for economic growth.
I could've sworn I've heard and read conservatives complaining about QE during Obama.
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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: No, not railing against. Saying it is a headwind for economic growth.
I could've sworn I've heard and read conservatives complaining about QE during Obama.
Yes. But we were saying that the QE helped Obama, whereas, Trump's economy did not have QE to help his numbers. Trump has mostly faced Quantitative Tightening.

QE is a tool in the Fed's toolbox. Nothing wrong with it. The only thing wrong with QE is if it is used at a time when it is not necessary. This may be one of those times though. And sometimes the book says that QE is necessary, but it doesn't work as you hoped. That is usually followed by another round, or two.

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I could've sworn I've heard and read conservatives complaining about QE during Obama.
Yes. But we were saying that the QE helped Obama, whereas, Trump's economy did not have QE to help his numbers. Trump has mostly faced Quantitative Tightening.

QE is a tool in the Fed's toolbox. Nothing wrong with it. The only thing wrong with QE is if it is used at a time when it is not necessary. This may be one of those times though. And sometimes the book says that QE is necessary, but it doesn't work as you hoped. That is usually followed by another round, or two.
This is one of those times. I'm not sure I even agree with the Fed's decision to stop the tightening. It may be the ONLY thing propping up the treasury curve at this point.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Yes. But we were saying that the QE helped Obama, whereas, Trump's economy did not have QE to help his numbers. Trump has mostly faced Quantitative Tightening.

QE is a tool in the Fed's toolbox. Nothing wrong with it. The only thing wrong with QE is if it is used at a time when it is not necessary. This may be one of those times though. And sometimes the book says that QE is necessary, but it doesn't work as you hoped. That is usually followed by another round, or two.
This is one of those times. I'm not sure I even agree with the Fed's decision to stop the tightening. It may be the ONLY thing propping up the treasury curve at this point.
Yeah. There are a few things that are going against the textbook. The biggest influencers are the trade war and the weak global economy in combination with a fairly strong US economy. The Fed's job is to read the past data and make moves based on where they think the future data is headed. But the future data is hard to predict in this climate, and the "safe" play could end up being a dangerous one.

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CAA Flagship wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
This is one of those times. I'm not sure I even agree with the Fed's decision to stop the tightening. It may be the ONLY thing propping up the treasury curve at this point.
Yeah. There are a few things that are going against the textbook. The biggest influencers are the trade war and the weak global economy in combination with a fairly strong US economy. The Fed's job is to read the past data and make moves based on where they think the future data is headed. But the future data is hard to predict in this climate, and the "safe" play could end up being a dangerous one.
Ok. That actually makes some sense. Thanks. :thumb:
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As Trump put it, when it comes to dealing with China's trade practices, "somebody had to do it." He then added "I am the chosen one" as he looked up to the sky.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/860276/trump-chosen

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Ibanez wrote:
As Trump put it, when it comes to dealing with China's trade practices, "somebody had to do it." He then added "I am the chosen one" as he looked up to the sky.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/860276/trump-chosen

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Imagine how far ahead Trump would be if he stayed off Twitter and kept his damn mouth shut.
Agreed.

Imagine how far MILLIONS of people would be if they stayed off Twitter.
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Ivytalk wrote:
Imagine how far ahead Trump would be if he stayed off Twitter and kept his damn mouth shut.

^^^^^^^^

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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Yeah. There are a few things that are going against the textbook. The biggest influencers are the trade war and the weak global economy in combination with a fairly strong US economy. The Fed's job is to read the past data and make moves based on where they think the future data is headed. But the future data is hard to predict in this climate, and the "safe" play could end up being a dangerous one.
Ok. That actually makes some sense. Thanks. :thumb:
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Manufacturing sector contracts for the first time in nearly a decade
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/22/man ... ssion=true
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Manufacturing sector contracts for the first time in nearly a decade
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/08/22/man ... ssion=true
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Ibanez wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Imagine how far ahead Trump would be if he stayed off Twitter and kept his damn mouth shut.
Agreed.

Imagine how far MILLIONS of people would be if they stayed off Twitter.
Exactly.

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